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I have it on good authority that sittingly is a (junior) manager from a rival airline, tasked with torpedoing EK recruitment.
Sheikmyarse, an the other hand, is actually a Bot inserted by the Canadian Government.
Sheikmyarse, an the other hand, is actually a Bot inserted by the Canadian Government.
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There's that humour slipping in again Wiz.
Should be banned, along with democracy and free speech in the Muddle East. Scares the troops.
Sorry Sittingly..forgot you two have some sort of childish vendetta going on. My bad for even thinking people could have a sensible, mature exchange of opinions on this forum.
Should be banned, along with democracy and free speech in the Muddle East. Scares the troops.
Sorry Sittingly..forgot you two have some sort of childish vendetta going on. My bad for even thinking people could have a sensible, mature exchange of opinions on this forum.
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Bye Bye Dubai , bullseye mate. Reading the various threads about EK here , it is so abvious that EK ( probably HR have appointed a few browne nose wannabee,s to respond on prune). To attempt to discredit every post that may affect their recruitment policy and/or reputation. Dare I say who I think they are .................
oh how the truth hurts
oh how the truth hurts
Does anyone find it beyond the realm of possibility that EK has a little department that is tasked with reputing truths here on PPRuNe? It is in fact a reality.
I don't thinks that so, but aparently sacasim IS lost on you.
I'm often accused of being one of the chief appologists for EK here, and I can assure you I am no more than a humble 5th Year DEC TRI.
PM me and I'll gladly confirm that personally.
So, that being the case, are you prepared to examine the possibility your personal perspective is so far at one end of the spectrum, you can't recognise that people may genuinly have significantly different perspectives to yourself?
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Pilots, engineers and good managers simply would not choose this company, if not for the propaganda.
Most guys at EK take what it offers (and it does offer a lot) whilst it suits them - this means putting up with an awful lot of cr*p in the meantime. But then many (most?) other airlines are no different at all - unfortunately.
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sittingly,
Err- where did I do that???
No, actually you have to be both a dumb ass and borderline paranoid to think they' bother...
Do you often get the feeling unseen people are watching you?
Glad you agreed that there is a small dept at EK, whose sole purpose is to conter truths on PPRuNe.
OBVIOUSLY EMIRATES AIRLINES watches, infiltrates and manipulates the posts on PPRuNe. You gotta be a dumb ass not to think otherwise.
Do you often get the feeling unseen people are watching you?
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A long time ago in the mid 90's I had an FAA officer on board a flight. He actually said that the regulatory bodies of a number of countries including the good ole USA monitors PPrune!
I know for a fact there are a number of members who ARE airline management who in fact do post to repudiate statements or embellish the truths that might hurt them.
So be aware........
I know for a fact there are a number of members who ARE airline management who in fact do post to repudiate statements or embellish the truths that might hurt them.
So be aware........
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And that is about all.
Next time you enter your company ID, then your FOB number, then your 'secret' (each two months has to be changed) code, ask yourself why there is such security to access your email! This company is brilliant with such things, so to think they don't monitor Pprune and infiltrate this forum, would be a foolish assumption.
I know for a fact there are a number of members who ARE airline management who in fact do post to repudiate statements or embellish the truths that might hurt them.
But I' m not aware fo any managers that post (and certainly not some sinister "Boiler room" operation!!).
345, don't be shy. If you have verifiable facts, name which posters are management and what positions they hold.
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I'm offended that you'd even contemplate the thought of me having a private argument with sittingidly. Not only does he struggle to spell my name each time, he probably even confuses himself with his contridictory posts. This guy is one big wind up. Treat as such.
Anyway, May 10th will be the day of truth. My guess is either a large pay rise (10% +) or a whopping profit share (18 weeks). Unless we get at least one of those and sufficient new pilots to fly our shiny new jets later this year, there's going to be a lot more pissed off postings on these threads.
If the Company wants to almost double in size and retain highly qualified pilots, that will make for an interesting 18 months ahead.
I'm offended that you'd even contemplate the thought of me having a private argument with sittingidly. Not only does he struggle to spell my name each time, he probably even confuses himself with his contridictory posts. This guy is one big wind up. Treat as such.
Anyway, May 10th will be the day of truth. My guess is either a large pay rise (10% +) or a whopping profit share (18 weeks). Unless we get at least one of those and sufficient new pilots to fly our shiny new jets later this year, there's going to be a lot more pissed off postings on these threads.
If the Company wants to almost double in size and retain highly qualified pilots, that will make for an interesting 18 months ahead.
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I havent posted on here for a long time but as I finally had a couple of days off and wasnt asleep for a change, I thought I would take a peek at the gossip.
Every year we speculate as to what we will get. Is anyone ever correct in their guesses? All I can say is, I hope we dont get much.....
Contentious statement I know but there is a reason for this.
This is not the company I joined, or should I say my contract I signed all those years ago doesnt represent the supposed contract I have now. But then Dubai isnt the place I remember from all those years ago either. Have a look at this link from an article in Vanity Fair. I had this sent to me and have to say it hits the nail on the head.
Dubai on Empty | Culture | Vanity Fair
The main thing to learn from this is that Dubai is broke. The only things making money I hear are the Ports and the Airline. Abu Dhabi want their money and this is what they will tap to get it. So all our efforts and hard work over the past 2 years are for nothing. The profits will be used to pay the debts. I am not even going to hazard a guess as to what the company will give as a bonus. All I do know is this. I have a feeling we will be hugely disappointed. I think we will be angry...... Angry because they will give us a paltry amount. It will be better than zero but nothing that represents what the company has made. The pay rise will be of a similar amount....paltry...
But thats going to start the mass exodus. For instance, has anyone looked at the seniority list recently. I look quite often at it. We have recruited over 1000 pilots in the past 3 years and yet the seniority list has only increased by about 350 in that time. Its like a bucket full of holes. 3 pilots quit today. Yeah they still get the bonus, but i think this is the first of many. I think there is a huge intake of breath as we all await the ''good news for pay and bonus'' once its announced the cabin crew will leave in droves. Pilots also. There is an arrogance in this company that everyone wants to join. Its not happening now. They have no more people from May. When they announce the paltry pay rise and bonus no one will want to join....and why would they???
Emirates you have taken my overtime payments away... you have cost me an absolute fortune. The guy that suggested it is now in a position that reports to AAR directly. He is untouchable. I hope you can sleep at night.. The majority of us are wiped out from the work patterns we are getting...This country is so expensive now that i laugh at the payrise i got last year. It wasnt enough by 20%... The company cut and cut and cut and still cut. I get less money for my layovers now than I did 10 years ago...and what happened to the pay scales... I havent had an increment rise for 3 years.
So EK, go ahead and give us your best shot. If you then dont get any people wanting to join this prestigious company, that could with a little effort could be the best job in the world, dont complain.
BUT then again, I may be wrong....
Every year we speculate as to what we will get. Is anyone ever correct in their guesses? All I can say is, I hope we dont get much.....
Contentious statement I know but there is a reason for this.
This is not the company I joined, or should I say my contract I signed all those years ago doesnt represent the supposed contract I have now. But then Dubai isnt the place I remember from all those years ago either. Have a look at this link from an article in Vanity Fair. I had this sent to me and have to say it hits the nail on the head.
Dubai on Empty | Culture | Vanity Fair
The main thing to learn from this is that Dubai is broke. The only things making money I hear are the Ports and the Airline. Abu Dhabi want their money and this is what they will tap to get it. So all our efforts and hard work over the past 2 years are for nothing. The profits will be used to pay the debts. I am not even going to hazard a guess as to what the company will give as a bonus. All I do know is this. I have a feeling we will be hugely disappointed. I think we will be angry...... Angry because they will give us a paltry amount. It will be better than zero but nothing that represents what the company has made. The pay rise will be of a similar amount....paltry...
But thats going to start the mass exodus. For instance, has anyone looked at the seniority list recently. I look quite often at it. We have recruited over 1000 pilots in the past 3 years and yet the seniority list has only increased by about 350 in that time. Its like a bucket full of holes. 3 pilots quit today. Yeah they still get the bonus, but i think this is the first of many. I think there is a huge intake of breath as we all await the ''good news for pay and bonus'' once its announced the cabin crew will leave in droves. Pilots also. There is an arrogance in this company that everyone wants to join. Its not happening now. They have no more people from May. When they announce the paltry pay rise and bonus no one will want to join....and why would they???
Emirates you have taken my overtime payments away... you have cost me an absolute fortune. The guy that suggested it is now in a position that reports to AAR directly. He is untouchable. I hope you can sleep at night.. The majority of us are wiped out from the work patterns we are getting...This country is so expensive now that i laugh at the payrise i got last year. It wasnt enough by 20%... The company cut and cut and cut and still cut. I get less money for my layovers now than I did 10 years ago...and what happened to the pay scales... I havent had an increment rise for 3 years.
So EK, go ahead and give us your best shot. If you then dont get any people wanting to join this prestigious company, that could with a little effort could be the best job in the world, dont complain.
BUT then again, I may be wrong....
Does any intelligent person working at EK/EY not realize that at the very least these company's monitor PPRuNe? In fact, they infiltrate PPRuNe but to what extent is debatable.
You didn't say anything was debatable. You said it was a fact.
A fact is not a suspicion. It is something you know because of empirical, verifiable evidence.
Now it seems you admit what you claimed as fact is mearly conjecture, conjured up by your over-emotional attitude in your posts here.
SO, they take jabs at people, make absurd assertions and then go home at the end of the day.
Are you really saying the "Jabs" directed at negative posters are worse than those directed at positive posters, in the same post as you question anothers intelligence for the third of fourth time?
Keep in mind, these people have to be subtle and they change their ID once people start questioning their motives.
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10th May!
The wording of the corp comms invite is a bit dire it seems....
Traditionally it's been on the last thurs of April. It seems odd after all these years for it to be near mid may.
I'm forever with a half full cup but it feels like it may be a half empty cup this year
We'll see 10th at 1pm won't we?
Traditionally it's been on the last thurs of April. It seems odd after all these years for it to be near mid may.
I'm forever with a half full cup but it feels like it may be a half empty cup this year
We'll see 10th at 1pm won't we?