Middle East Unrest !!!
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Byebyedubai,:
don't expect understanding/comprehension of what you can see
and others don't. If your mission is to enlighten, use confucius.
" If the student is thirsty just givem only a half glass of water ". If he is still
thirsty givem the remainder.
I made/make the same mistakes.
The thing is that nobody wants to disembark the pink orient express and you understand that I am with you.
Sometimes I think maybe its for the best, but it isn't. The result will be in the benefit for only a few. And it goes as far as against all of humanity without nationality. Check it out.
Nothing that you can do about it with the ignorant and complacent sheep around you.
The numbers will be horrific......
What To Do
don't expect understanding/comprehension of what you can see
and others don't. If your mission is to enlighten, use confucius.
" If the student is thirsty just givem only a half glass of water ". If he is still
thirsty givem the remainder.
I made/make the same mistakes.
The thing is that nobody wants to disembark the pink orient express and you understand that I am with you.
Sometimes I think maybe its for the best, but it isn't. The result will be in the benefit for only a few. And it goes as far as against all of humanity without nationality. Check it out.
Nothing that you can do about it with the ignorant and complacent sheep around you.
The numbers will be horrific......
What To Do
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1-Qataris think Democracy is for poor people
2-To protest do you need to get out of the Land Cruiser?
3-Can the protest area be Shaded with A/C and Shisha?
4-How much should we pay to every Indian who will protest in our behalf?
5-Can we have the protest between 9 pm and midnight?
6-any gifts or prize for those who attend?
if protest are a success and democracy comes can we have the world cup earlier than 2022??
Hahahahahaahhahahahah !!!!!!!!
2-To protest do you need to get out of the Land Cruiser?
3-Can the protest area be Shaded with A/C and Shisha?
4-How much should we pay to every Indian who will protest in our behalf?
5-Can we have the protest between 9 pm and midnight?
6-any gifts or prize for those who attend?
if protest are a success and democracy comes can we have the world cup earlier than 2022??
Hahahahahaahhahahahah !!!!!!!!
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I hear that the next massive unrest from the poorly paid workforce of a Middle East nation that is treated by the mindless rule from above will be in the UAE post the EK profit share announcement! 
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I would be lying if I said I wasn't concerned but I do see differences between the states that are experiencing unrest and those that are not (e.g. Qatar and UAE). The common threads in those countries with disturbances are that there is often a religious divide and/or a deal of financial inequality. Oppressive presidential dicatorship hasn't helped.
Bahrain seems to have most of these issues - a Shi'a majority ruled by a Sunni minority that seems to keep the best of everything for themselves (jobs, money, status). Yemen, Libya, Egypt, Tunisia all have/had presidential systems that were so corrupt that they would have been laughable if they weren't so saddening - when added to endemic corruption and inequality the result is inevitable.
Qatar and the UAE seem to be in a better position in many respects. The money is shared out much more evenly and the religious make up of the majority of the population matches that of the rulers - approximately 80% Sunni in both cases, coupled with a greater degree of religious freedom (e.g. Christian churches and the like are permitted and their rights enshrined in the constitution). The media here in the UAE are also freely reporting the events in other countries - unlike the attempts by Libya and the like to suppress comment, a pointless exercise in these days of the internet.
Ghaddafi is on the skids - it's just a matter of time before he goes the way of the others and his "end" may be more like that of Nicolae Ceaucescu than that of Hosni Mubarak. Saleh in yemen really ought to be packing his bags and nipping off to China or South America before he finds himself backed into a corner from which there is no escape.
However, I would be very surprised indeed if Qatar and the UAE were to experience the same degree of unrest. Although the earlier post about Qatar "protests" was made with tongue in cheek, it actually sums up the situation rather well. OK, so there's no real democracy here but Qataris and Emiratis have got such a good deal in life that there is nothing to be gained from making a fuss - quite the reverse in fact. On the other hand, a Bahraini Shi'ite may well feel that he has nothing to lose, especially when in the company of a good number of his subjugated compatriots.
In short, I'm not expecting to be leaving the country any time soon.
I may be reading this all wrong but I can't see what the average Qatari or Emirati would have to gain, in fact I can only see them losing out. The story in Yemen, Libya, Egypt and Bahrain is quite different.
Bahrain seems to have most of these issues - a Shi'a majority ruled by a Sunni minority that seems to keep the best of everything for themselves (jobs, money, status). Yemen, Libya, Egypt, Tunisia all have/had presidential systems that were so corrupt that they would have been laughable if they weren't so saddening - when added to endemic corruption and inequality the result is inevitable.
Qatar and the UAE seem to be in a better position in many respects. The money is shared out much more evenly and the religious make up of the majority of the population matches that of the rulers - approximately 80% Sunni in both cases, coupled with a greater degree of religious freedom (e.g. Christian churches and the like are permitted and their rights enshrined in the constitution). The media here in the UAE are also freely reporting the events in other countries - unlike the attempts by Libya and the like to suppress comment, a pointless exercise in these days of the internet.
Ghaddafi is on the skids - it's just a matter of time before he goes the way of the others and his "end" may be more like that of Nicolae Ceaucescu than that of Hosni Mubarak. Saleh in yemen really ought to be packing his bags and nipping off to China or South America before he finds himself backed into a corner from which there is no escape.
However, I would be very surprised indeed if Qatar and the UAE were to experience the same degree of unrest. Although the earlier post about Qatar "protests" was made with tongue in cheek, it actually sums up the situation rather well. OK, so there's no real democracy here but Qataris and Emiratis have got such a good deal in life that there is nothing to be gained from making a fuss - quite the reverse in fact. On the other hand, a Bahraini Shi'ite may well feel that he has nothing to lose, especially when in the company of a good number of his subjugated compatriots.
In short, I'm not expecting to be leaving the country any time soon.
I may be reading this all wrong but I can't see what the average Qatari or Emirati would have to gain, in fact I can only see them losing out. The story in Yemen, Libya, Egypt and Bahrain is quite different.
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On a related note...what are the chances of the aspiring newbies from stable countries in N.America & EU convincing their relatively cocooned wives and kids to leave stability and come to the 'paradise' that is the M/East....and what about the mother in law..ye gads
Sweetening of the pot perhaps...?
Sigh, I suspect something different...."oil prices, loss os revenue, unstable outlook,...have had an adverse affect on earnings..."
Talk about timing....again!
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Sweetening of the pot perhaps...?
Sigh, I suspect something different...."oil prices, loss os revenue, unstable outlook,...have had an adverse affect on earnings..."
Talk about timing....again!
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f.
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A rather extreme response for what seemed to be a relatively small number of protesters
Loss of life is indeed regrettable.
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Agreed. These pillars of righteousness that the US, and other western nations profess to stand on, are little more than a distraction to their citizens while they conduct the most outrageous fraud and profiteering.
Wall Street and the US government have conducted the biggest robbery in history plunging their own people and millions of others into financial distress and appear to have got away with it! Robbery on a scale that would make Gaddafi, Mubarak and Mugabe blush.
Now the writing is on the wall for Gaddafi the Western Governments swoop in with proclamations of support and help. They have no interest in the well-being of the Libyans or any other Arabs for that matter. In fact the whole population could get massacred - provided it suited their oil interests they would hardly notice.
There is no Democracy today, any more than there is capitalism. Only politicians and banksters conspiring to get richer. When their own populations turn on them, it will be a pleasure to watch.
Wall Street and the US government have conducted the biggest robbery in history plunging their own people and millions of others into financial distress and appear to have got away with it! Robbery on a scale that would make Gaddafi, Mubarak and Mugabe blush.
Now the writing is on the wall for Gaddafi the Western Governments swoop in with proclamations of support and help. They have no interest in the well-being of the Libyans or any other Arabs for that matter. In fact the whole population could get massacred - provided it suited their oil interests they would hardly notice.
There is no Democracy today, any more than there is capitalism. Only politicians and banksters conspiring to get richer. When their own populations turn on them, it will be a pleasure to watch.
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Good question. Best guess is somewhere that has resources and the population understand the principles of democracy.
Ultimately I believe the pendulum will swing. Populations will wrestle back their say but the population has to know what it wants to replace the current rot. Kicking out the con-men is of little use unless their is a viable and credible option.
Likewise the country has to bring more to the party than paper shares and financial instruments as these are all likely to be committed to the archives of history. Mining, agriculture, manufacturing or useful services are what will be needed. They alway have been
Ultimately I believe the pendulum will swing. Populations will wrestle back their say but the population has to know what it wants to replace the current rot. Kicking out the con-men is of little use unless their is a viable and credible option.
Likewise the country has to bring more to the party than paper shares and financial instruments as these are all likely to be committed to the archives of history. Mining, agriculture, manufacturing or useful services are what will be needed. They alway have been
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Sittingidly,
If you want to comment on the US, you should know that the Federal Government in the US has never been a democracy. It is a Republic. A true democracy is three wolves and one lamb voting on what's for dinner. That said, it is true that so much in the US now is run by the Golden Rule. He who has the gold....rules. Term limits? Might be the only way to go.
If you want to comment on the US, you should know that the Federal Government in the US has never been a democracy. It is a Republic. A true democracy is three wolves and one lamb voting on what's for dinner. That said, it is true that so much in the US now is run by the Golden Rule. He who has the gold....rules. Term limits? Might be the only way to go.
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For those thinking about bringing their families to the ME as a reason to come just for a job THINK AGAIN! Oman a relatively quiet neighbour to the UAE is starting to see increasing uprising and discontent with its leaders. Unrest in the Arab world appears to be an expanding problem with the likes of Saudi Arabia on the cards in the future! Kuwait, Bharain, Oman have all had pockets of unrest from the few groups who dare brave to challenge dictatorships.
What is it the people are uprising against? Leaders who use thier abuse their position by creaming off cash from the state to purchase their own lavish lifestyle mansions overseas, have luxury airliners and yacths etc etc... Then and MOST OF ALL, the said ruler/dictators like in Libya and Egypt try to keep the happy times in their family by promoting the idea that thier next of kin is the next best person to rule a country as opposed to having the best elected person to fulfill the position. I can see that the sons of dictators aren't always the next best person to rule a country...ie N Korea...Libya!!
So does the above structure not fall into most of the Middle East (probably all) countries and associated .....doms?
I think there is more of this to come and what is worse Iran has had its uprising in the past and is not in a state of all its people being in favour of the regime.
Gulf wars 1 and 2 were a concern as is Afghanistan, the thing is, they were isolated to those countries alone.....this wave of peoples un-rest seems to be a concern and can not be counted out anywhere in the Middle East under current conditions!
If I was thinking about applying to a ME carrier and taking my family there in these uncertain times...I would seriously have to know that there is no other employment for me outside of the ME.
Good Luck and remember, times are hard in the ME even when things are good, this now adds a WHOLE NEW MEANING as to why to choose to go to the ME with a family just for employment! Don't just think about your career, think 90% of the choice to come to the ME is it really going to benefit your whole family, currently I would say not?
What is it the people are uprising against? Leaders who use thier abuse their position by creaming off cash from the state to purchase their own lavish lifestyle mansions overseas, have luxury airliners and yacths etc etc... Then and MOST OF ALL, the said ruler/dictators like in Libya and Egypt try to keep the happy times in their family by promoting the idea that thier next of kin is the next best person to rule a country as opposed to having the best elected person to fulfill the position. I can see that the sons of dictators aren't always the next best person to rule a country...ie N Korea...Libya!!
So does the above structure not fall into most of the Middle East (probably all) countries and associated .....doms?
I think there is more of this to come and what is worse Iran has had its uprising in the past and is not in a state of all its people being in favour of the regime.
Gulf wars 1 and 2 were a concern as is Afghanistan, the thing is, they were isolated to those countries alone.....this wave of peoples un-rest seems to be a concern and can not be counted out anywhere in the Middle East under current conditions!
If I was thinking about applying to a ME carrier and taking my family there in these uncertain times...I would seriously have to know that there is no other employment for me outside of the ME.
Good Luck and remember, times are hard in the ME even when things are good, this now adds a WHOLE NEW MEANING as to why to choose to go to the ME with a family just for employment! Don't just think about your career, think 90% of the choice to come to the ME is it really going to benefit your whole family, currently I would say not?
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Moving to the Middle East right now?
Shouldn't the psych department have something to say about their penchant for risk? Or reality for that matter.
Well at least there is no shortage of sand to bury one's head in.
Shouldn't the psych department have something to say about their penchant for risk? Or reality for that matter.
Well at least there is no shortage of sand to bury one's head in.
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Understanding is one and accepting it gives you a head start.
As your gut feeling told you, it is all about the bankers like in history.
In fact what we are witnessing is not related to the ME only!! we are seeing the eruption to manifest here(ME) because the pressure (already high since decades)on the people in the ME has reached the boiling point earlier than in the rest of the world.....
What we are witnessing is a further enslavement of humanity which normally comes with pains and rejections.
Therefore I would rather say that it is more globally and it is affecting all of us.WITHOUT NATIONALITY...but
Slowly but steadily we will lose all of our human rights, once accepted means no turning back. Western world will not react instantly. We did on a low level with austerity measures (UK, Greece, France etc.)
The fury which will be instigated by the rising cost of living in the west(because of rising fuel prices) will be channeled in to another but more devastating war. Welcome to WWIII. Another engineered war by the 'globalists'....After this one we WILL be chipped...like animals.....
As your gut feeling told you, it is all about the bankers like in history.
In fact what we are witnessing is not related to the ME only!! we are seeing the eruption to manifest here(ME) because the pressure (already high since decades)on the people in the ME has reached the boiling point earlier than in the rest of the world.....
What we are witnessing is a further enslavement of humanity which normally comes with pains and rejections.
Therefore I would rather say that it is more globally and it is affecting all of us.WITHOUT NATIONALITY...but
Slowly but steadily we will lose all of our human rights, once accepted means no turning back. Western world will not react instantly. We did on a low level with austerity measures (UK, Greece, France etc.)
The fury which will be instigated by the rising cost of living in the west(because of rising fuel prices) will be channeled in to another but more devastating war. Welcome to WWIII. Another engineered war by the 'globalists'....After this one we WILL be chipped...like animals.....
'some' governments suggest Ghadaffi has WMD
The only suggestion so far seems to be from a Brit author musing on and on about mustard gas, etc.
The only head of government suggesting NFZ, troops on the ground and more warlike bombast is the P.M. of Britain, David Cameron.
Seems Mr. Cameron received his comeuppance from other heads of state and today backed off his typical rhetoric --- ruling the waves and all that.
'sitting' read the whole article then your opinion of 'some' governments yadding on about WMD just may be enlightened?
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Libya: David Cameron in retreat - no support for pledge of action - even from rebels | Mail Online
The only head of government suggesting NFZ, troops on the ground and more warlike bombast is the P.M. of Britain, David Cameron.
Seems Mr. Cameron received his comeuppance from other heads of state and today backed off his typical rhetoric --- ruling the waves and all that.
'sitting' read the whole article then your opinion of 'some' governments yadding on about WMD just may be enlightened?
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Libya: David Cameron in retreat - no support for pledge of action - even from rebels | Mail Online
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Nolimitholdem, maybe do some research before you pooh-pooh some obvious things going on in the world. Its all about the Benjamins, follow the money, it is as simple as that.
Who owns what, who stands to gain from this or that? The USA middle class is being sucked dry. Billions of public funds to private international investment bankers who caused the problems to start with. Where is the return to the regular guy? That money is gone! Never waste a good crisis.
Yes, the US government has been bought and sold and I fear it is too late to return back to the essence of the country. I have no desire to return there soon. There is a background of anger there among the citizens that may rival the Middle East countries' malcontents if things don't improve. The people do have power as we are seeing lately and when it is ignored and disrespected, frustration will be expressed. As in nature, inequities tend to equalize over time.
As far as the employment situation in the UAE, there seems to be an exodus with few new takers willing to roll the dice.
Who owns what, who stands to gain from this or that? The USA middle class is being sucked dry. Billions of public funds to private international investment bankers who caused the problems to start with. Where is the return to the regular guy? That money is gone! Never waste a good crisis.
Yes, the US government has been bought and sold and I fear it is too late to return back to the essence of the country. I have no desire to return there soon. There is a background of anger there among the citizens that may rival the Middle East countries' malcontents if things don't improve. The people do have power as we are seeing lately and when it is ignored and disrespected, frustration will be expressed. As in nature, inequities tend to equalize over time.
As far as the employment situation in the UAE, there seems to be an exodus with few new takers willing to roll the dice.