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Emirates (EK) Interview - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 4th Sep 2018, 02:00
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Emirates Pilots Careers

Enhanced package means you'll start on 2 or 3rd year Capt salary. Just to really p1ss off the FOs who have recently upgraded, have 5-6 years of flying the EK network so far greater route knowledge than a direct entry Captain. But hey, welcome to the EK way!!
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Old 4th Sep 2018, 02:13
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Originally Posted by mmmbop View Post
Emirates Pilots Careers

Enhanced package means you'll start on 2 or 3rd year Capt salary. Just to really p1ss off the FOs who have recently upgraded, have 5-6 years of flying the EK network so far greater route knowledge than a direct entry Captain. But hey, welcome to the EK way!!
Thanks Mmmbop, will pass info on. Iím already on T7 in the region just not at EK (no intentions of applying either).

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Old 4th Sep 2018, 17:33
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Pint of beer worldwide:

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Old 4th Sep 2018, 21:45
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Originally Posted by Dune View Post
Pint of beer worldwide:


Sobering statistics indeed.

The fact that EK pilots are no longer allowed to use their accommodation allowance for renting is pure evil genius. Here’s the plan -

1. Build pilot ghetto with Emirates money,
2. Use your mates to build ghetto. They make money.
3. Force pilots to live in sand blasted pilot ghetto.
4. Realize a virtual profit from saved accommodation allowance.
5. Repeat.

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Old 5th Sep 2018, 08:29
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$12 a pint of beer in Dubai....thats a cheap! Need to find that bar....
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Old 5th Sep 2018, 14:20
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Is the famed establishment next to the waterpark up the road still available for cheaper booze now that the duty-free is taxed up the wazoo?
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Old 5th Sep 2018, 18:50
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That establishment is doing better than ever. Angel harps still play as the front doors slides open. And the cheapest and best cocktails in the region are available at the new cafe opened where the fine food place was .
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Old 8th Sep 2018, 14:18
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Hello -

I am a captain at a regional airline in the United States, and my wife may have an opportunity to take a promotion in the UAE at her company (she works in oil and gas). I never have considered Emirates, especially after hearing how fatigue inducing the rosters are, and the lack of pay/housing increases. That being said, how would it work if my wife’s firm was to pay for housing, expatriate benefits, etcetera. Would Emirates give us the money should we decide to buy, or are we just ‘out’ that aspect of compensation? Finally, would the freighter side be a better fit in my situation? I don’t have a Boeing or Airbus type so don’t know what opportunities other than EK would be possible.

Thanks!
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Old 8th Sep 2018, 16:12
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Originally Posted by donpizmeov View Post
That establishment is doing better than ever. Angel harps still play as the front doors slides open. And the cheapest and best cocktails in the region are available at the new cafe opened where the fine food place was .
Ahhh lovely, glad to hear it. Fond memories of the car park full of high end vehicles with little GB stickers on them stuffing endless cases into their boots do bring a nostalgic tear to my eye...there is still hope!

Drive home carefully.
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 13:55
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Hi there

A few questions about scheduling at EK:
- how does seniority based bidding actually work there, what degree of control over schedule can a junior pilot expect?
- how do reserve schedules work? are reserves typically junior pilots? also, do they still roster you to full month reserve, or this changed?

Thanks a ton!
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 17:51
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Hello Rudolf

The bidding system doesn't really work. In theory there are five bid groups which rotate so seniortiy isn't really a factor. In practice there aren't enough pilots and the company likes it that way so the roster computer can't do its job. Hence there appear to be lots of last minute insertions after roster build as the computer desperately tries to fill flights. A junior (or senior) pilot can expect very little control over their schecule and swapping is very difficult because of many company "rules" that aren't written down anywhere. Lack of satisfaction with rosters is a major reason for people leaving. Bidding closes on 5th and rosters are usually produced between 16th and 18th of the month before but it can be as late as the 23rd. On the plus side, rosters are generally fairly stable- they are usually so busy it is difficult for the company to mess with them after publication.

You will get 35 days of reserve every 10 months regardless of time in the company. Some reserve months are very busy, some not at all. You don't find out what you are doing until 1800 the day before and don't know when your days off will be until the night before either.

Hope that helps. Nobody joins Emirates for the quiality of the rosters!
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 18:05
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Are there any Canadian pilots on here? I was wondering what you think about EK compared to working for an airline in Canada.

I thought EK should be considered as a last resort because of all of the negative stuff Iíve read about on here, but the more Iíve thought about it, the more Iíve realized that it isnít really that different than what itís like for the typical Canadian pilot (in terms of fatigue rules, rosters, upgrade times, etc).

Iím not blind to whatís going on there. Itís definitely not what it used to be, but it does seem like more of the same problems you get here in Canada, but you get paid almost 3 times the starting salary at Air Canada with housing (tax free too) and you donít have to put up with winter from October to April. Almost sounds worth giving up a bit of freedom to get ahead financially and to see more of the world. I do have to pay back those student loans eventually...

As a young and single Canadian guy, would doing 5-7 years at EK and then returning home with some savings be a terrible idea? Or would I be better off staying here in my parentsí basement until I have a few years of seniority at a major in Canada?
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 18:26
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Emirates can work for the young, the single and the desperate. However, it is very difficult to save money in Dubai on an FO salary and you are now stuck with company accommodation so you can't top up your salary from the living out allowance. You will save a lot less in the first 5-7 years than you imagine and it is worth bearing in mind that up to 7 years the company takes back what it has paid into your retirement fund.

If you are planning on going back to Canada after that time I would say you are better off staying put and building some seniority at a Canadian airline, especially one of the majors. It is a lot of seniority to give up. There certainly don't appear to be many Canadian pilots joining now compared to 15 years ago. I'm not Canadian by the way, but the same thoughts would apply to anybody coming from Europe, Australia or America.
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Old 3rd Oct 2018, 18:29
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Thank you for the insight BigGeordie. I appreciate it!
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Old 5th Oct 2018, 23:14
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Any chance if someone could share with me the direct contact email/office phone of someone in the recruitment or talent acquisition team? Please,
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 07:46
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Originally Posted by Seaman Staynes View Post
Why would anyone come to EK to fly 90+ hours with minimum days off when QR is less flying hours and hence less fatigue!
(This should be a question asked at the interview to check on a persons sanity!!!)
I am from the region and i believe ek is one of the best around so if you can could you share HR contact? please.
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 11:28
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You don’t have to look far on their recruitment portal and you’ll find the email address, considering that and why they maybe have not replied to you makes me think the vetting process is still intact......
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 12:30
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You can also visit them at the HQ if close by .
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Old 6th Oct 2018, 16:38
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[QUOTE] you donít have to put up with winter from October to April/QUOTE]

No you just have to suffer through summer* instead

* the weather apps aren't lying when they say "f*ck*g hot as Hades"...
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Old 9th Oct 2018, 11:10
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Thanks BigGeordie for the info!

Some further follow ups on reserve, What do you do for the whole 35 days? Are you always on standby at the airport or do you get dayoffs in reserve months too? Can you plan any dayoffs in advance? What if the my reserve duty falls into the month that my bid group is on the top, do I get to bid anything?
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