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Emirates (EK) Interview - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 19th Feb 2018, 02:11
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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Its been said many times before, its not a wise thing to do. What I can say that as an example you can expect 9 days off on the 380 fleet and work 92 hours. Some months you can get 13 days off and still work 90 hours.

Generally you'll work 90-100 hours per month.

PS...Don't forget the 5 year bond meaning that you have no choice but to like the hours.
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Old 19th Feb 2018, 12:03
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Join Date: May 2013
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Anyone know what the rules are with leaving Dubai on your days off? I have a vague recollection of reading something about being in Dubai min 72 hours before your duty, can't find it again though....is that true? If so is it actually implemented?
If it is true does that apply to annual leave as well...would seem odd if you take a weeks annual leave but can only go away for 4 of the 7 days.
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Old 19th Feb 2018, 12:33
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Incorrect, 12 hours before a duty, but longer before a duty requiring you to be acclimated. (2 local nights, in time zone 2hrs or less difference from Dubai, ie, good for mainland Europeans in summer time!)

They therefore do not roster a duty requiring acclimation immediately after leave.

They can however roster that type of duty after a string of days off, which has caught out the unwary before.
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Old 19th Feb 2018, 12:52
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Thanks Kennedy
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Old 20th Feb 2018, 20:51
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Join Date: Jun 2007
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EK reality

https://www.google.ae/amp/s/www.rt.c...tleblower-site


Posh reality of EK... not surprising
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 15:52
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Join Date: Feb 2017
Location: New Brunswick, Canada
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How is equipment type chosen when applying for EK?

When applying at EK, how is equipment type chosen and when is it chosen? For example, if I applied and want to fly on the Airbus A380, then what are my chances? Is there any way to get out of flying the 777 or can you wait until the next A380 F/O position is open to join on that specific fleet type?

Thanks for the responses!
-Jack
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 17:37
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CAE

I see CAE has taken the responsibility for recruitment of EK. Trying to get more punters in..
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Old 21st Feb 2018, 22:27
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Join Date: Jul 2000
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Originally Posted by jetjockey696
CAE
I see CAE has taken the responsibility for recruitment of EK. Trying to get more punters in.
No.

EK just pays for the sim time! EK recruitment people in the sim........
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Old 22nd Feb 2018, 07:14
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Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: United Arab Emirates
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Originally Posted by JackRoy__ View Post
When applying at EK, how is equipment type chosen and when is it chosen? For example, if I applied and want to fly on the Airbus A380, then what are my chances? Is there any way to get out of flying the 777 or can you wait until the next A380 F/O position is open to join on that specific fleet type?

Thanks for the responses!
-Jack
I think it depends on what you're flying on. You can say your preference though and they take it into account. Whether it will make a difference or not is another matter...
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 05:15
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: South America
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Anybody know if it is still possible to opt out of the company accommodation and get the cash for it if choose before joining? I understand you can’t do it after joining and that they are offering less attractive accommodation options.

Thanks.
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Old 23rd Feb 2018, 07:29
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Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Middle East
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Hi HAMMER,

As far as I’m aware you still have the option to opt out of company accommodation when joining and take the housing allowance. Once you have entered company accommodation the only opting out allowed is if you purchase your own residence.
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Old 24th Feb 2018, 13:49
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Normal roster on the B777.... Been like this for quite a while already! The shown rosters are actually not toooo bad

Last edited by paule737; 24th Feb 2018 at 14:45.
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Old 24th Feb 2018, 20:44
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Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 View Post
Well at the current rate I’m nightstopping in my short haul airline doesn’t look as bad as I could have imagined. 93 hrs as well. :-(
Do you regularly fly in the dead of night, cross multiple time zones and have a reasonably punitive safety culture? Whilst living in a country where you need an overdraft to buy an avacado?

Look, I know it's not roses industry wide, and there are a few good points with EK, but do try to compare apples with apples and get the full picture!
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Old 25th Feb 2018, 03:51
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Join Date: Oct 2016
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The thing that gets you here is the time zones and early/late starts. For example this week I lost 1 full night of sleep, my last start was 5am my next one is midnight.
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Old 25th Feb 2018, 07:43
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AIMINGHIGH123,

The short haul multi sector flying you allude too unite frankly doesn’t compare to how EK will work you, I’ve done both and on balance I was never as remotely tired anywhere else compared to my time at EK.
As for living costs, take housing costs out of the equation and you’ll find day to day expenses 15-20% more expensive than London like for like...don’t kid yourself.
Ok fine, you are doing multi sectors into places you are familiar with, at EK apart from DXB it’s rare you head to same place more than a couple of times a year, throw in the day to night roster pattern and quite frankly it’s life shortening and unsustainable for many.
Expect to work with some nice people, but also plenty of “English as not a first language” pilots from 2nd and 3rd world countries who often have attitudes to match and who tend to think EK is the gift that keeps on giving.
If that appeals, go for it, and understand that you are now “owned” by EK, your input is not required nor is your opinion. They certainly need more crew as the rate of resignations continue unabated.
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Old 25th Feb 2018, 09:57
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Nope, not the end of the world. Just five years of your life or $45,000 USD gone. That would tend to eat into whatever perceived financial advantage you've convinced yourself of. And more often than not, the missus gone too. The vast majority of my friends who joined are still married. Just not to the wife they joined with.

But hey, no guts no glory, right?
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Old 25th Feb 2018, 10:48
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Join Date: Apr 2003
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"Sleeping down route at odd times wouldn't bother me" must be a contender for the most, er, "innocent" post on PPRuNe so far this year. If you are human it WILL bother you. As was said before, no guts, no glory.
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Old 25th Feb 2018, 10:57
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It's no use lads he's already convinced and looking for affirmation, so whatever you say it's not going to change things.

I used to think I had nothing to lose. Then I came to EK.

You have a lot to lose, not least of all your health, and including your significant other (if you brought one, or meet one) your sanity (they will get you eventually) and for many, your very dignity. The last one is usually what makes people pull the pin.

I flew regional as well and I laugh now to think how I thought the rosters were hard, 6-8 sectors in a day? A dream compared to the constant zombie state of fatigue I endured for my last 18 months in EK. Still suffering the effects now. And no aside from the first 6 months or so, I wasn't a partier. My days off were for resting at home and the odd social catch up. I can't imagine how those with a more 'active' life manage it (or don't)
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Old 25th Feb 2018, 11:09
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AimingHigh123 - I don't doubt you can sleep like a log. I have some of my deepest sleeps when on descent after a 17 hour flight as an augmenting pilot.
Can you please pass on your technique of sleeping when you have a 12 hour timezone change and it is 2 in the afternoon according to your body clock?

I want your sleeping skills.
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Old 25th Feb 2018, 11:19
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They have seen it all, they have done it all, they have calculated, earned and paid it all and moreover, they know the ME better than we silly mortals who have lived here for some years.

You are my hero 123
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