New Visa Requirements for Canadians.
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Watch it you infidel boys and girls. The sheeky sheiks of Ultra A$$hole Enterprise (UAE) will find willing and obliging mullahs to issue fatwas to de-cap Canada dry until such time when Canada realises that is has to bend many times over to the demands of his royal highnesses.
I wonder what Timi Clarke and Johnny Hogan feel about their bosses' wishes?
I wonder what Timi Clarke and Johnny Hogan feel about their bosses' wishes?
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Isn't this just a kick in the B$#%@
Qatar and Canada sign new air agreement
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Canada appears to have found another friend in the Gulf: the National Post and Montreal Gazette are both reporting that:
"Canada and Qatar have quietly signed an aviation agreement that will allow Qatar Airways to fly three passenger flights and three cargo flights a week to and from the Gulf sheikdom.
Talks were successfully concluded on Oct. 25 after only three days of negotiation, according to Qatari news media....
Qatar does not require that Canadian citizens have a visa before travelling there. In a sign of warming relations, Canada is to open an embassy in Qatar early next year."
Canada and Qatar airline deal set to take off
In the war of words between Canada and the UAE is this a score for Canada or an own goal by the UAE side?
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Canada appears to have found another friend in the Gulf: the National Post and Montreal Gazette are both reporting that:
"Canada and Qatar have quietly signed an aviation agreement that will allow Qatar Airways to fly three passenger flights and three cargo flights a week to and from the Gulf sheikdom.
Talks were successfully concluded on Oct. 25 after only three days of negotiation, according to Qatari news media....
Qatar does not require that Canadian citizens have a visa before travelling there. In a sign of warming relations, Canada is to open an embassy in Qatar early next year."
Canada and Qatar airline deal set to take off
In the war of words between Canada and the UAE is this a score for Canada or an own goal by the UAE side?
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Contacted..by reading your post I believe you really don't understand the socio politics here.. The Dubai Government is EK and viceversa mate and they use the same techiques to maintiain power: intimidation, exploitment and daily violations of human rights.
Dubai has 1.3 million inhabitants as a whole "country" a real small sandy ****hole.
LHR rain...betteter youou takeke a braekek... youou lookok tireded!!
Dubai has 1.3 million inhabitants as a whole "country" a real small sandy ****hole.
LHR rain...betteter youou takeke a braekek... youou lookok tireded!!
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If you refer to the Visa section of the afore mentioned website (here) you will see in big bold and italic letters the following sentence "Note: Effective January 02, 2011 Canadian Passport holders are required to obtain a visa prior to entering the United Arab Emirates."
Have you heard back from them yet?
It is probably more likely that they didn't "Get the memo" yet.
Also, that it is NOT indicated on the UAE embassy website in Ottawa.
So I sent an email to the UAE embassy in Ottawa to ask for clarification.
What I said again was that I called the immigration people here in the UAE who told me there is no need for a visa even after Jan 2.
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And The Pissing Contest Continues...
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Mending relationship's
Canada, UAE relationship needs work: MacKay
Defence Minister Peter MacKay said Friday that Canada has "work to do" to repair its relationship with the United Arab Emirates.
The diplomatic relationship between the two countries soured after Canada denied increased landing rights for two state-run airlines from the U.A.E.
In retaliation, the U.A.E. barred Canada's access to Camp Mirage, a covert military base it has been using to stage operations in Afghanistan.
"We have some work to do in repairing the relationship with the [U.A.E.]," MacKay said. "Clearly the circumstances under which we left the base require now some work."
He did not deny that relationship had soured unnecessarily.
Canada refused to grant the landing rights because the U.A.E. tried to "blackmail" it into doing so by using access to a key Dubai military base as a bargaining chip, Conservative sources told CBC News in October.
On Oct. 11, MacKay confirmed that talks with the U.A.E. about the base's closure had failed, and Canada would abide by the country's wishes and vacate it.
Canada has since made arrangements to use alternate bases in Germany and Cyprus.
Reports suggest it will cost $300 million to close Camp Mirage.
The federal government hasn't "calculated all the costs" yet, MacKay said before boarding a flight to Lisbon, Portugal, for a NATO summit.
"Obviously, we'll look at close-out costs when the time is right. We have had to relocate, as you know, to other bases.
"My primary concern is that we continue to have operational efficiencies. We have to continue to supply personnel equipment going in into the Afghan theatre."
Defence Minister Peter MacKay said Friday that Canada has "work to do" to repair its relationship with the United Arab Emirates.
The diplomatic relationship between the two countries soured after Canada denied increased landing rights for two state-run airlines from the U.A.E.
In retaliation, the U.A.E. barred Canada's access to Camp Mirage, a covert military base it has been using to stage operations in Afghanistan.
"We have some work to do in repairing the relationship with the [U.A.E.]," MacKay said. "Clearly the circumstances under which we left the base require now some work."
He did not deny that relationship had soured unnecessarily.
Canada refused to grant the landing rights because the U.A.E. tried to "blackmail" it into doing so by using access to a key Dubai military base as a bargaining chip, Conservative sources told CBC News in October.
On Oct. 11, MacKay confirmed that talks with the U.A.E. about the base's closure had failed, and Canada would abide by the country's wishes and vacate it.
Canada has since made arrangements to use alternate bases in Germany and Cyprus.
Reports suggest it will cost $300 million to close Camp Mirage.
The federal government hasn't "calculated all the costs" yet, MacKay said before boarding a flight to Lisbon, Portugal, for a NATO summit.
"Obviously, we'll look at close-out costs when the time is right. We have had to relocate, as you know, to other bases.
"My primary concern is that we continue to have operational efficiencies. We have to continue to supply personnel equipment going in into the Afghan theatre."
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What? No mention of the lobby pressure from the Airline business moguls from that so called "win at all costs" flag carrier? Shame! I wonder who gave the MP's the Fly EMIRATES hats? 
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yep, no unemployment outside of Canada EH?! lol
Youth Unemployment Is A Regional Problem
So the answer to the question "what would make you think that Emirati want to become a canadian ?" (sic) is - your own leaders make me think this. They've stated this clearly. Their words, not mine.
My own question is, what would make you think that Canada wants Emiratis as citizens? Canada - hell any immigrant nation - needs immigrants who are actually willing to work, integrate into their adopted society, and contribute something to that society.
Youth Unemployment Is A Regional Problem
By Rania Moussly, Staff Reporter Gulf News
Published: 00:00 November 7, 2010
Youth unemployment is one of the biggest challenges facing the Arab world today said business leaders at the Fifth Annual Young Arab Leaders (YAL) Regional Entrepreneurship Summit which closed in Dubai yesterday.
The current unemployment rate in the Arab world stands at 16 per cent, 80 per cent of that figure is made up of a youth population of 130 million.
"The biggest challenge we have in the region at the moment is unemployment," said Dr Sulaiman Al Hattlan, Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of the Arab Strategy Forum.
"A 2007 report shows that most young Arabs want to emigrate outside the region; and 70 per cent say it's to seek employment opportunities in search of a better income," he added.
Al Hattlan added that according to a recent World Bank report, the region must create six million annual jobs to address the youth unemployment problem of the region.
"To face this challenge we have to look to the private sector in order to create jobs," he said. "[Because] if we look at an overview of the Arab world it's a dim and frightening picture," said Al Hattlan.
Published: 00:00 November 7, 2010
Youth unemployment is one of the biggest challenges facing the Arab world today said business leaders at the Fifth Annual Young Arab Leaders (YAL) Regional Entrepreneurship Summit which closed in Dubai yesterday.
The current unemployment rate in the Arab world stands at 16 per cent, 80 per cent of that figure is made up of a youth population of 130 million.
"The biggest challenge we have in the region at the moment is unemployment," said Dr Sulaiman Al Hattlan, Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of the Arab Strategy Forum.
"A 2007 report shows that most young Arabs want to emigrate outside the region; and 70 per cent say it's to seek employment opportunities in search of a better income," he added.
Al Hattlan added that according to a recent World Bank report, the region must create six million annual jobs to address the youth unemployment problem of the region.
"To face this challenge we have to look to the private sector in order to create jobs," he said. "[Because] if we look at an overview of the Arab world it's a dim and frightening picture," said Al Hattlan.
My own question is, what would make you think that Canada wants Emiratis as citizens? Canada - hell any immigrant nation - needs immigrants who are actually willing to work, integrate into their adopted society, and contribute something to that society.
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really
when you said arab world it's like saying the European Union 
Is the number of unemployed in France is the same number of unemployed in Germany????
see this and change the names of European countries to arab countries and it will be fair Unemployment in Euro zone 10% and 9.6% in EU; worst case Spain with 20.3% — MercoPress
how many locals living in canada and how many canadians live in UAE
loooooooooooool
i am not local or arabic and i fly a lot to toronto so i know how things goes there
see this about canada Canada Unemployment Rate
did you see a homeless in UAE ?
what about canada ?
see this Homelessness in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
have safe and happy flights
Is the number of unemployed in France is the same number of unemployed in Germany????
see this and change the names of European countries to arab countries and it will be fair Unemployment in Euro zone 10% and 9.6% in EU; worst case Spain with 20.3% — MercoPress
how many locals living in canada and how many canadians live in UAE
loooooooooooooli am not local or arabic and i fly a lot to toronto so i know how things goes there
see this about canada Canada Unemployment Rate
did you see a homeless in UAE ?
what about canada ?
see this Homelessness in Canada - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
have safe and happy flights
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Jobs at risk in UAE airline feud
From the CanadianGlobe and Mail
The Harper government has added fuel to the heated diplomatic feud with the United Arab Emirates, accusing it of subsidizing its airline and arguing that allowing it to fly more often to Canada would have cost “tens of thousands of jobs” here.
The government’s charge that the UAE government subsidizes the Emirates airline will only fan the dispute, as both have for years vociferously denied charges of subsidy levelled by airlines in Europe, Australia, and Canada, which are fighting the Mideast airline’s aggressive drive for market share.
The diplomatic feud was sparked by Canada’s rejection of the UAE’s demand for its two airlines, Emirates and Etihad, to fly daily routes from Dubai into three Canadian cities. In response, the UAE booted the Canadian Forces out of a Dubai base it had been using to stage operations in Afghanistan, and slapped visa restrictions on Canadian visitors.
The spat has split the Harper cabinet, as Defence Minister Peter MacKay lobbied hard for the government to allow the UAE expanded landing rights – and asserted that the refusal deeply damaged relations.
But yesterday, the Conservative government turned up the tone.
In Lisbon for a NATO summit, Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon said the negotiations for the landing rights broke down because Canadians would have lost jobs.
“I made it perfectly clear that we’re not prepared to put Canadian workers out of their jobs by allowing a subsidized foreign airline to literally flood the Canadian market,” he said.
And in the House of Commons, Government House Leader John Baird suggested Canada’s airline industry would have been decimated: “It would have cost Canada literally tens of thousands of jobs and was not in Canadians’ best interest,” he said. “That is why we said no.”
Mr. Baird’s assertion amounts to an argument that the increased flights – daily from Dubai to Toronto, Calgary, and Vancouver instead of three times a week to Toronto – would devastate Canada’s airline industry. The Canadian competitor on overseas routes, Air Canada, employs 26,000, and the industry as a whole, 65,000.
But the Canadian government’s assertion that the UAE subsidizes airlines that use job-killing predatory practices to dump cheap flights on foreign markets will be a red flag to the UAE, which has been fighting this argument for years.
Competitors have claimed that Emirates gets low-cost subsidized fuel and financing from Dubai ruler Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum and favourable rates from its home-base airport in Dubai, but Emirates denies that. And it has become a hot political issue because European airlines and Air Canada are trying to preserve traffic into their European hub in Frankfurt, while Emirates – and the UAE government – are trying to establish Dubai as a major air-travel and tourism centre.
“The reality is some competitors, realizing that Emirates was emerging as a major competitive entrant, simply devised a plan, sans facts or evidence, to throw enough mud to ensure some of it stuck,” Emirates President Tim Clark said in a speech last year, adding that the claims are “usually fired from a grassy knoll in the Frankfurt area.”
Diplomats at the UAE’s embassy in Ottawa could not be reached for comment.
Emirates entered a fierce lobbying battle with Air Canada over the expanded landing rights, meeting with dozens of cabinet ministers and senior officials before their request was rejected in October.
Emirates insists its request would take up only about 2 per cent of Canada’s international passenger traffic, and wouldn’t devastate the industry here, but opponents said it would force Air Canada to sink resources into international competition, and perhaps cut less profitable routes to regional airports in Canada.
The Conservatives’ insistence that their decision to reject the UAE airlines would protect jobs appeared to place them in an unusual position – winning warm words from trade unions, but criticism from conservative free-market advocates.
Mark Milke, a policy analyst with the free-market Fraser Institute, said the issue of whether the UAE’s airlines are subsidized should affect the Canadian government’s decisions. But with all the claims and denials, the fact that Emirates is government-owned means the public has to take their word for it, or not.
If it isn’t subsidized, more foreign competition would be good for the industry and consumers by lowering prices and creating competition for better service, he said. But either way, he added, the Conservative government’s claims it would cost tens of thousands of jobs are exaggerated.
“That assumes that somehow you’re going to see the disappearance of WestJet and Air Canada. It’s fanciful,” he said. He likened the decision to the rejection of a foreign takeover of Saskatchewan’s Potash Corp. “It’s the kind of protectionist rhetoric that unfortunately the Tory government has become famous for.”
The Harper government has added fuel to the heated diplomatic feud with the United Arab Emirates, accusing it of subsidizing its airline and arguing that allowing it to fly more often to Canada would have cost “tens of thousands of jobs” here.
The government’s charge that the UAE government subsidizes the Emirates airline will only fan the dispute, as both have for years vociferously denied charges of subsidy levelled by airlines in Europe, Australia, and Canada, which are fighting the Mideast airline’s aggressive drive for market share.
The diplomatic feud was sparked by Canada’s rejection of the UAE’s demand for its two airlines, Emirates and Etihad, to fly daily routes from Dubai into three Canadian cities. In response, the UAE booted the Canadian Forces out of a Dubai base it had been using to stage operations in Afghanistan, and slapped visa restrictions on Canadian visitors.
The spat has split the Harper cabinet, as Defence Minister Peter MacKay lobbied hard for the government to allow the UAE expanded landing rights – and asserted that the refusal deeply damaged relations.
But yesterday, the Conservative government turned up the tone.
In Lisbon for a NATO summit, Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon said the negotiations for the landing rights broke down because Canadians would have lost jobs.
“I made it perfectly clear that we’re not prepared to put Canadian workers out of their jobs by allowing a subsidized foreign airline to literally flood the Canadian market,” he said.
And in the House of Commons, Government House Leader John Baird suggested Canada’s airline industry would have been decimated: “It would have cost Canada literally tens of thousands of jobs and was not in Canadians’ best interest,” he said. “That is why we said no.”
Mr. Baird’s assertion amounts to an argument that the increased flights – daily from Dubai to Toronto, Calgary, and Vancouver instead of three times a week to Toronto – would devastate Canada’s airline industry. The Canadian competitor on overseas routes, Air Canada, employs 26,000, and the industry as a whole, 65,000.
But the Canadian government’s assertion that the UAE subsidizes airlines that use job-killing predatory practices to dump cheap flights on foreign markets will be a red flag to the UAE, which has been fighting this argument for years.
Competitors have claimed that Emirates gets low-cost subsidized fuel and financing from Dubai ruler Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum and favourable rates from its home-base airport in Dubai, but Emirates denies that. And it has become a hot political issue because European airlines and Air Canada are trying to preserve traffic into their European hub in Frankfurt, while Emirates – and the UAE government – are trying to establish Dubai as a major air-travel and tourism centre.
“The reality is some competitors, realizing that Emirates was emerging as a major competitive entrant, simply devised a plan, sans facts or evidence, to throw enough mud to ensure some of it stuck,” Emirates President Tim Clark said in a speech last year, adding that the claims are “usually fired from a grassy knoll in the Frankfurt area.”
Diplomats at the UAE’s embassy in Ottawa could not be reached for comment.
Emirates entered a fierce lobbying battle with Air Canada over the expanded landing rights, meeting with dozens of cabinet ministers and senior officials before their request was rejected in October.
Emirates insists its request would take up only about 2 per cent of Canada’s international passenger traffic, and wouldn’t devastate the industry here, but opponents said it would force Air Canada to sink resources into international competition, and perhaps cut less profitable routes to regional airports in Canada.
The Conservatives’ insistence that their decision to reject the UAE airlines would protect jobs appeared to place them in an unusual position – winning warm words from trade unions, but criticism from conservative free-market advocates.
Mark Milke, a policy analyst with the free-market Fraser Institute, said the issue of whether the UAE’s airlines are subsidized should affect the Canadian government’s decisions. But with all the claims and denials, the fact that Emirates is government-owned means the public has to take their word for it, or not.
If it isn’t subsidized, more foreign competition would be good for the industry and consumers by lowering prices and creating competition for better service, he said. But either way, he added, the Conservative government’s claims it would cost tens of thousands of jobs are exaggerated.
“That assumes that somehow you’re going to see the disappearance of WestJet and Air Canada. It’s fanciful,” he said. He likened the decision to the rejection of a foreign takeover of Saskatchewan’s Potash Corp. “It’s the kind of protectionist rhetoric that unfortunately the Tory government has become famous for.”
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i am not local or arabic and i fly a lot to toronto so i know how things goes there
Anyway, back to the thread. I think it's safe to say the the new visa requirements will matter the sum total of about zero to most Canadians, seeing as the UAE isn't exactly a tourist hot spot for Canada and the vast majority are workers on employment visas. But from the posted article it does seem they're waking up to the fact that allowing companies based in shall we say, more "loosely" regulated areas of the world, to sail in and take market share, could be a Bad Idea.
The best point made in the article is
But with all the claims and denials, the fact that Emirates is government-owned means the public has to take their word for it, or not.
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...seeing as the UAE isn't exactly a tourist hot spot for Canada and the vast majority are workers on employment visas.
Although the circumstance surrounding the introduction of this visa requirement is regrettable, one can’t really hold it against the Emiratis. One word, RECIPROCITY. If Emiratis require Visa’s to get into Canada, then it’s only fair that Canadians require visas to enter the UAE. But for some reason, many seem to be taking the news pretty hard and are perhaps blowing the thing way out of proportion. I am reminded of the Brazil vs. USA story (recall the whole finger printing issue and the American skipper that made world headlines with his middle finger
)It’ll be interesting to see how this whole thing plays out!
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Anyone working in the UAE has to get Visa's anyway. This is the majority of the Canadian traffic is it not? That being only about 10% of the total traffic on ME carriers. The rest are Subcontinent traffic with family in Canada.
Perhaps Canada wants to grant some access to UAE, but also find space for others in servicing this traffic. Turkish is up and coming, and well positioned for this. Add the fact that they are already Star Alliance members, which would mean that the companies would mutually benefit each other.
Perhaps Canada wants to grant some access to UAE, but also find space for others in servicing this traffic. Turkish is up and coming, and well positioned for this. Add the fact that they are already Star Alliance members, which would mean that the companies would mutually benefit each other.
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"beggars"?
Much as I dislike the UAE and it's temper tantrums and the way the treat people, as well as the many things they do like throwing people in jail for kissing on the cheek, drinking without the "permission" of the police, throwing an expat female in jail for not accepting the come-ons of a local - things like that.....
I would have to say you are gravely mistaken if you think you will see a "local" beggar. There are none, and if there are in the UAE they are definitely not local. So, before you assume to know things about a country i would suggest you stay there for a year and find out all the beauties there are - beggars don't exist.
I would have to say you are gravely mistaken if you think you will see a "local" beggar. There are none, and if there are in the UAE they are definitely not local. So, before you assume to know things about a country i would suggest you stay there for a year and find out all the beauties there are - beggars don't exist.
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Beggers don't exist?...they certainly don't frequent the areas I do, but they certainly exist. You're right..probably not local, but every year around Ramadan the police have a big campaign to get the beggers off the streets. They arrest hundreds if not thousands (as reported in the papers) every year.
So yes...they certainly exist.
So yes...they certainly exist.
