EK safety culture
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Do you really think standards have improved? I think it makes no difference if they have a number stuck on their chariot of death. They may have 'thought about it' initially but within a week or so it's back to normal. Anyway, they are more of a hazard then a help. I've only once tried to ring the number of a complete numpty only to find myself jamming on the brakes before almost rear ending him. Maybe the doc was right, it is time to get glasses after all. Has anyone rung yet?
I do agree that the ME is a blame culture. It will be for many, many years and is unlikely to change. Running an Airline with this mentality is downright dangerous. That's why it's going to make no bloody difference come the board of enquiry so why go to work worrying.
You also hit the nail on the head re ASR's. Without the requirement to file ASR's, the number would be considerably less. Wouldn't it in every airline? Is that not, therefore, why we have certain parameters that if infringed, should be reported. It's a learning tool and there are many examples of 'interesting' approaches that are merely discussed with FS in a non jeapody environment. We don't hear about them because your mate is hardly likely to chat about his screw up at the next barbie, is he? It's another reason why the contents of them should be useful. I have no interest either in learning that the 'GEAR STEERING' warning came on because you didn't line up straight. If anyone in EK can honestly put their hand on heart and say that if I didn't put in a report for an event like that, I would get bollocked, then they really need to consider a career change.
studi
The majority of UK airlines I know have a 1000' policy for reporting go arounds. It's there not only for data collection of specific airport threats and trends, but also helps the CP answer Mrs Chowdry when she rings up complaining of the low go around. It's also a great way to see a pattern developing with an individual. Or should we just ignore the 1-2% of rogue pilots out there? It's not unique to EK.
Do you really think standards have improved? I think it makes no difference if they have a number stuck on their chariot of death. They may have 'thought about it' initially but within a week or so it's back to normal. Anyway, they are more of a hazard then a help. I've only once tried to ring the number of a complete numpty only to find myself jamming on the brakes before almost rear ending him. Maybe the doc was right, it is time to get glasses after all. Has anyone rung yet?
I do agree that the ME is a blame culture. It will be for many, many years and is unlikely to change. Running an Airline with this mentality is downright dangerous. That's why it's going to make no bloody difference come the board of enquiry so why go to work worrying.
You also hit the nail on the head re ASR's. Without the requirement to file ASR's, the number would be considerably less. Wouldn't it in every airline? Is that not, therefore, why we have certain parameters that if infringed, should be reported. It's a learning tool and there are many examples of 'interesting' approaches that are merely discussed with FS in a non jeapody environment. We don't hear about them because your mate is hardly likely to chat about his screw up at the next barbie, is he? It's another reason why the contents of them should be useful. I have no interest either in learning that the 'GEAR STEERING' warning came on because you didn't line up straight. If anyone in EK can honestly put their hand on heart and say that if I didn't put in a report for an event like that, I would get bollocked, then they really need to consider a career change.
studi
The majority of UK airlines I know have a 1000' policy for reporting go arounds. It's there not only for data collection of specific airport threats and trends, but also helps the CP answer Mrs Chowdry when she rings up complaining of the low go around. It's also a great way to see a pattern developing with an individual. Or should we just ignore the 1-2% of rogue pilots out there? It's not unique to EK.
