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Old 3rd Jan 2012, 10:24
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Malim you must be really desperate to get the Air Arabia employment thus you have written over 200 posts in this thread in support of Alpha. Dont worry now nobody will take you seriosly though in the past you have mis lead many innocent cadets into joining Alpha. There are no negative posts about any other aviation schools in this region but Alpha. Infact they have been kind in accomodating Alpha cadets who have been thrown out
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Old 3rd Jan 2012, 10:58
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It is not a cake walk getting admittion into a good university or an aviation academy which has a good success ratio. On the otherhand the selection criteria to Alpha is a joke and any sixth standard primary school child can clear it including the compass test. The reason is clear to fill up the vacant seats and make money. Four month into the training one sided contracts are given to the cadets to be signed which go in favour of Alpha and give them the upper hand. Cadets are then left with no choice but to sign. Then the process of elimination begins in the name of high standard .
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Old 3rd Jan 2012, 18:50
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@ aakhan

Nicely said

Bytheway...to all of those who are desperate to know...Alpha has its first 6 Cadets Out (GCAA Licenses Received) 3 more to go next week for the First Batch to Officially Graduate

More to come next week...
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Old 3rd Jan 2012, 20:54
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I've spoken to AAA people, Air Arabia people and I really thrust malirm on his replies and his stories. I really want to thank him!

Aakhan and the others, thank you very much for bashing this thread too! If you really want to hate and let people think that AAA is a dead group, you can have your choise and good luck with that.

- Yes AAA has to make money to stay alive
- Yes you have to pay a lot of money
- Yes you will get a qualified training
- Yes you will get your MPL license after the training
- You really have to fill in yourself your Yes of No for Air Arabia!

Air Arabia will take the cadets who got their licences and perform well. If you do your job, everything will be fine. If they need pilots they will pick up those from AAA. If all batches are flying with the airline and there are no qualified MPL cadets anymore, they will take 1500hr+ experienced FO's.

Just do your job.

If you are a bad pilot, you won't get hired by any airline, because all of them has a simulator screening. But if you perform only that day well and you get the magic YES and get the job, you will be jobless during your TR or/and Linetraining. You have to do all kind of tests..

Life has a lot of exams.. Learn that..

Malirm, please go with your news.. We are waiting for it!

Are you now with Air Arabia? Do you now have a contract?
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Old 4th Jan 2012, 13:13
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Stop using this thread to cover up for Alpha and misleading innocent cadets into joining Alpha. At the time of intake all kind of false verbal promises are made by Alpha. You are told that the success ratio is 100% and that each and everyone will get employment. This is how Alpha fill up their vacant seats by making tall promises. Six months later the cadets are given contracts to sign when they have no choice. Then after Alpha has got their money they start slowly throwing the cadets one by one. Batches are reduced from 10 to 4 then batches are merged like just now batch 1 and 2 have been merged and given the name of batch 1. Alpha and Marlim will then go on to say success ratio for batch 1 is 100%
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Old 4th Jan 2012, 17:19
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@ aakhan & Taras B

Calm down guys...more news to come...Taras B & aakhan, I am not saying that you are wrong...or...even...Right !!! Same thing applies to me !

I am talking about something I have been through, I'm not recommending Alpha or any other flight school...

Alpha and Marlim will then go on to say success ratio for batch 1 is 100%
Aakhan, this 100% is a reality for Batch ONE & I say it again Batch O N E

Batches can change...the same way in a University or College...what is the responsibility of a batch if a guy fails in his Semester...he has to do it again !

Captain.Weird, thank you Batch One has the contract signed with Air Arabia, YES I am with Air Arabia...to confirm it...I have an Air Arabia ID with my Picture & Name on it

Guys, what I can say is, Air Arabia & other airlines in the UAE, are thirsty for Pilots...probably, if the first few batches succeed, AAG won't worry about asking or Pegging airlines to come & get cadets...(Just some analysis)...but AAG must provide better answers (no doubt) to Aakhan & Taras B, why not even solutions I hope everything will be clarified for all of us once at least 20 guys graduate & get their JOBS from AAG UAE...fingers Crossed
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Old 5th Jan 2012, 18:53
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Malirm what was the final amount you ended paying Alpha. At every stage they charge extra. It must be easily more than Dh 500,000 that is if you intend to tell the truth. What is the amount you payed Air Arabia at the time of signing the contract DH 200,000 or more
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Old 6th Jan 2012, 15:40
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@ aakhan & Taras B

Taras B

As Per ICAO, the MPL is restricted to the Airline until the Line Training is Over & an official letter is sent to the GCAA...nothing NEW

@ Aakhan

I Paid the 440,000 AED, they ended up paying me back for 3 meals a day in the Philippines plus transportation at some points & the same applied to Jordan (Intermediate & Advanced training).

I cannot speak about the Air Arabia exact amount, as I have signed a confidentiality paper as well, but I can tell you...its less than 50,000 AED that is for the Line Training

More news to come in the coming few days
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Old 7th Jan 2012, 15:00
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This is exactly what I would like to confirm. The slightly challenged cadets are removed and there is no question of semester repeating as mentioned by Malirm. Cadets are removed at ground school stage and others at core flying. Three cadets from my batch out of 9 have been removed and we are only at MCC stage at Alpha and I cant sleep at night because it could my turn next at MCC stage. The batch of 9 will be reduced to 3 by the time we reach line training. The entrance to Alpha is made so easy that even a sixth standard primary school child can get in. Then they fill up their seats by giving false figures like 100% success.
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Old 7th Jan 2012, 16:17
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Aakhan, in which batch are you? I would advise you that you don't have to be scared for failing for your license. Just work hard and you will win! If you are going to f*ck yourself like this you won't make it man. Just work hard and I hope a day you will be a pilot for Air Arabia too.

But a question, if a cadet is removed from the groundschool how much does he have to pay for his 'study'?

@Malirm, come on with the news!
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Old 7th Jan 2012, 18:54
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A cadet who is removed at ground school has payed Alpha Dh150.000 Cadets removed at core flying stage lost DH 300.OOO. My two friends at Australia were not even allowed to complete their 70 hours flying time for which they had paid. A one sided contract is given to the cadets to be signed when they are five months into their training. My request to all cadets wanting to join Alpha get hold of the contract before paying the first instalment
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Old 8th Jan 2012, 05:49
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Excellent points everyone!
Just few more to add:
1. Just because you get into any training institute does not mean you will graduate. CPL/IR or MPL route, both will have failures and dropouts. All depends on how much hardwork one puts in.
2. From the limited experience that I have, I have seen its mostly the good ones who end up a job first!*
3. Comparing the CPL vs MPL, both have their advantages and disadvantages. With MPL you have an assessment guarantee with the partner airline. *Try getting an assessment with any airline with 200/250 hrs and a CPL/IR!!! On the other hand, MPL is expensive, type specific and has a risk of getting stuck, if not taken!

Keep working hard guys! This whole region needs tons of pilots!
Happy landings!
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Old 8th Jan 2012, 06:40
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Training institutes should not make you sign a contract five months into the course where by cadets do not have any rights. Should the authorities paint a rosy picture by telling them that they have 100% success ratio and no drop outs when surely that is not the case. Should entrance to Alpha made easy so that they can fill up their places. Yes it should be brought to the notice of GCAA, ICAC AND WATS 2012
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Old 8th Jan 2012, 08:39
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Not trying protect AAA here. Other institutes might be operating differently. Totally agree that aaa should change their operation should there be a better way of doing it.
However, there is NO way to assess true abilities of a cadet beforehand. One can do several assessments to reduce the failure rates later but there is no foolproof method! Pilot training is about focus, hard work, aptitude and attitude. Loss of any of these attributes will affect training, even if one did well in the assessments. So I beg to differ on that point of yours.

Moreover, ALL schools are there to make money! Sad but true! AAA no exception.
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Old 9th Jan 2012, 10:28
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I agree that there can be no fullproof method. Alpha has so many dropouts that shows that their selection process is faulty and made easy to fill vacant seats in Alpha. I srongly urge cadets that they should get hold of the contract before paying the first instalment.
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Old 14th Jan 2012, 09:27
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Alpha Needs to prove a point

Alpha Aviation Academy has two issues to deal with...

1. they are a relatively new company, and just like any new company in the middle-east (also worldwide) they need a constant flow of students/work to survive, and

2. the MPL program is relatively new as compared to the traditional CPL/IR syllabus. So a lot of potential student pilots and their parents are hesitant to enrol into the known.

I can only imagine that the administration staff at Alpha are feeding their visitors some kind of BS about how good the program is, and regardless of the COMPASS scores, are putting "bums in seats" for the sake of AED 440 000.

If I was an Auditor looking into Alpha's recruitment methods, paperwork and history, I'm sure I would find a few students who should not have been there, but selected anyway, and who are now either struggling to make it through the course, or who are threading deep water.
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Old 14th Jan 2012, 18:47
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Alpha is not able to get enough sudents to fill up their seats and thus to help their intake have made entrance to Alpha easy. Secondly four months into the course they make cadets sign a contract where in cadets have no rights for refund if thrown out in the middle of their training. From my batch alone three cadets have been thrown. Smart Alpha has the date of joining mentioned in the contract though it was given and signed four months into the course.
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Old 16th Jan 2012, 07:51
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So considering that Alpha are struggling to get students, and that they have lowered their standards of assessment, I guess most of (if not all) the student candidates successfully get through the screening process. And if they donít make it, then too bad. Itís a win-win for Alpha - they get rid of bad students, and keep the AED 440 000 anyway.

Well done Alpha, you are setting new standards in money laundering.
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Old 16th Jan 2012, 11:54
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To safeguard themselves they make cadets sign a contract wherein the cadets have no right for any refund. Contract is issued four month into the training but the date mentioned on the the contract is the date of joining. In my batch there were two cadets who were underage (less than 18 years) who were given contracts to sign.
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Old 16th Jan 2012, 23:52
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Devil TarasB you sounded like an ex employee of AAG and have an axe to grind.

You posted only on AAG treads. Your many bad comments of AAG about Sharjah and Clark seem like you know lots about them. Calling AAG a pariah (dictionary meaning outcast) group. By saying that you not only insulted AAG but their present and past cadets. It does not sound right of you. You should be banned from posting further for spreading lies.
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