QR Flt Ops 'Management' - The Laughter Factory
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QR Flt Ops 'Management' - The Laughter Factory
This is a long overdue round up of the talentless clowns that govern our lives in good old QR Fright Ops...
Lets face it you couldn’t assemble a more unworthy, bunch of clowns to run a safety critical activity that is the flight ops dept of a so called world class airline.
Start at the top and you have our beloved EVPO, a worthless and spineless individual that will stop at nothing to cling onto his position since he harbours an ill-concealed ambition to be the next QR CEO. Every'buddys' friend to your face and drops you right in it behind your back. Needs to stay on his toes since his allies are slowly being assassinated and his enemies are hot on his heels.
Worst of all is that he has to suffer regular ignominy in the form of CEO sponsored visits from Capt J Misfit (aka Angel of Death), the retired ex UK CAA buffoon who will regale you about his son’s career in the Royal Navy, or his yacht, or how the CEO holds QR 001 for him when he is rushing back to London after another farcical ‘investigation’.
Then you have that specious creep CPF that comes from the 'Kingdom' next door. A complete backstabbing plagiarist that copies and pastes others work and passes it off as his own. He even has the gall to put his own copyright symbol at the bottom of his documents. (Rumour has it that he is very very friendly with the person in charge of the QR medical centre - a self-appointed expert in aeromedicine and ULR with no real background or experience of the field). You have to watch the CPF very carefully and don't be fooled by him handing you sweets - they'll be laced with poison
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The CPT of course is another obnoxious creep that got his position by backstabbing and sucking up to the 9th floor. Rumour has it that the 9th floor is extremely unhappy as there is so far nothing to show for his tenure. In the meantime he continues to backstab in the vain hope that one day he will have the top job. A big kid trying to do a very grown up job.
Another big kid to whom we can now say farewell is the oily and talentless squeaky voiced clot that masqueraded and a well informed and powerful ally to the CEO. He certainly kissed enough CEO posterior to be given the role but alas he overcooked it. Drunk on his own power and self importance he made enemies very very rapidly, particularly the CP B777. The 777 honcho is something of a guest artist in the corridor of power and is very much the court jester. Be very careful though for if you underestimate him you are in for a big surprise since he is very powerful and well connected (a nephew of the QCAA Chairman). Alas RN chose the wrong guy to tangle with and he was soon found wanting and got himself fired for impropriety with the recruitment process – namely hiring too many of his Brit friends.
The most obnoxious of the lot is the blimp in a dish-dash that resides on Al Jabor compound and mismanages the Airbus fleet. Known as ‘Black Magic’ to his friends due to his liking of that voodoo esque practice. This individual is the most two faced and utterly corrupt of the lot. Responsible for the ‘three day-off’ roster rule because he hates for any pilot to have a life outside DOH. A concerted informant to the CEO the EVP has much to worry about this guy. If you live on Al Jabor be very careful with your children as he or his wife are likely to run them over by their excessive speeding whilst driving on or off the compound. Should your child have a near miss with his car he will surely jump out and give your child a full and public dressing down and then lobby to the company that all compound children must remain locked inside their villas without being able to play in the street – except of course, his children. BM cut his teeth as deputy to SS and between them and the previously fired RP (ex rostering) they ran a corruption ring where friends on the 330 got nice rosters and enemies were shafted. Oh and allegedly money changed hands too for nice rosters. This is why BM is an arch enemy of the new Jepp rostering system as it undermines his efforts to have complete control of the pilots rosters. However he now has a work around since in addition to the 3 day rule he has his informants making sure only certain folk get their days off requests etc. If you are not one of the favoured few you will have you computer generated requests removed manually before publication. If you complain you will be told that the MCR is responsible.
We must not overlook the lovely but completely hapless A320 honcho. An all round nice guy but utterly useless as a manager. Spends most of his time sleeping.
Last but not least (for this instalment) is KC the pasty faced empire builder that has basically ‘gone native’ and is to all intents and purposes a local in a shirt and tie. A graduate of the RAF ‘boys in blue’ mob this chap has a curious tick in one eye that becomes more pronounced when he is asked a difficult question. His empire grows and grows now that he arranged the assassination of the SM training centre so not only is he responsible for the TRTO but also for the facilities used to deliver it ie the sim centre itself - a sure conflict of interest. The reality is that this guy is a survivor and remains in power by his acute sense of where the power base lies and allying himself appropriately. The CEO is not a fan but tolerates him. Don’t be fooled by his QCAR/FCL quoting nonsense. It’s a smokescreen. The guy would be unemployable in any other airline.
Definitely time to move on.
Lets face it you couldn’t assemble a more unworthy, bunch of clowns to run a safety critical activity that is the flight ops dept of a so called world class airline.
Start at the top and you have our beloved EVPO, a worthless and spineless individual that will stop at nothing to cling onto his position since he harbours an ill-concealed ambition to be the next QR CEO. Every'buddys' friend to your face and drops you right in it behind your back. Needs to stay on his toes since his allies are slowly being assassinated and his enemies are hot on his heels.
Worst of all is that he has to suffer regular ignominy in the form of CEO sponsored visits from Capt J Misfit (aka Angel of Death), the retired ex UK CAA buffoon who will regale you about his son’s career in the Royal Navy, or his yacht, or how the CEO holds QR 001 for him when he is rushing back to London after another farcical ‘investigation’.
Then you have that specious creep CPF that comes from the 'Kingdom' next door. A complete backstabbing plagiarist that copies and pastes others work and passes it off as his own. He even has the gall to put his own copyright symbol at the bottom of his documents. (Rumour has it that he is very very friendly with the person in charge of the QR medical centre - a self-appointed expert in aeromedicine and ULR with no real background or experience of the field). You have to watch the CPF very carefully and don't be fooled by him handing you sweets - they'll be laced with poison
.The CPT of course is another obnoxious creep that got his position by backstabbing and sucking up to the 9th floor. Rumour has it that the 9th floor is extremely unhappy as there is so far nothing to show for his tenure. In the meantime he continues to backstab in the vain hope that one day he will have the top job. A big kid trying to do a very grown up job.
Another big kid to whom we can now say farewell is the oily and talentless squeaky voiced clot that masqueraded and a well informed and powerful ally to the CEO. He certainly kissed enough CEO posterior to be given the role but alas he overcooked it. Drunk on his own power and self importance he made enemies very very rapidly, particularly the CP B777. The 777 honcho is something of a guest artist in the corridor of power and is very much the court jester. Be very careful though for if you underestimate him you are in for a big surprise since he is very powerful and well connected (a nephew of the QCAA Chairman). Alas RN chose the wrong guy to tangle with and he was soon found wanting and got himself fired for impropriety with the recruitment process – namely hiring too many of his Brit friends.
The most obnoxious of the lot is the blimp in a dish-dash that resides on Al Jabor compound and mismanages the Airbus fleet. Known as ‘Black Magic’ to his friends due to his liking of that voodoo esque practice. This individual is the most two faced and utterly corrupt of the lot. Responsible for the ‘three day-off’ roster rule because he hates for any pilot to have a life outside DOH. A concerted informant to the CEO the EVP has much to worry about this guy. If you live on Al Jabor be very careful with your children as he or his wife are likely to run them over by their excessive speeding whilst driving on or off the compound. Should your child have a near miss with his car he will surely jump out and give your child a full and public dressing down and then lobby to the company that all compound children must remain locked inside their villas without being able to play in the street – except of course, his children. BM cut his teeth as deputy to SS and between them and the previously fired RP (ex rostering) they ran a corruption ring where friends on the 330 got nice rosters and enemies were shafted. Oh and allegedly money changed hands too for nice rosters. This is why BM is an arch enemy of the new Jepp rostering system as it undermines his efforts to have complete control of the pilots rosters. However he now has a work around since in addition to the 3 day rule he has his informants making sure only certain folk get their days off requests etc. If you are not one of the favoured few you will have you computer generated requests removed manually before publication. If you complain you will be told that the MCR is responsible.
We must not overlook the lovely but completely hapless A320 honcho. An all round nice guy but utterly useless as a manager. Spends most of his time sleeping.
Last but not least (for this instalment) is KC the pasty faced empire builder that has basically ‘gone native’ and is to all intents and purposes a local in a shirt and tie. A graduate of the RAF ‘boys in blue’ mob this chap has a curious tick in one eye that becomes more pronounced when he is asked a difficult question. His empire grows and grows now that he arranged the assassination of the SM training centre so not only is he responsible for the TRTO but also for the facilities used to deliver it ie the sim centre itself - a sure conflict of interest. The reality is that this guy is a survivor and remains in power by his acute sense of where the power base lies and allying himself appropriately. The CEO is not a fan but tolerates him. Don’t be fooled by his QCAR/FCL quoting nonsense. It’s a smokescreen. The guy would be unemployable in any other airline.
Definitely time to move on.
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All sadly true....
the best is get the fuc...out of here very soon,let's see not who but what is goin to fly the aircrafts they ordered.
The marketplace is moving again and Qatar Airways will not be able to grow if the good ones move away.
Everybody knows that Qatar is not a happy place!
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the best is get the fuc...out of here very soon,let's see not who but what is goin to fly the aircrafts they ordered.
The marketplace is moving again and Qatar Airways will not be able to grow if the good ones move away.
Everybody knows that Qatar is not a happy place!
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Management Change?
Any news about a surprise management change in QA flt ops?
CPF, CP777 and CP330 seem to be out of office and new replacement will be announced soon including a CP787.
CPF, CP777 and CP330 seem to be out of office and new replacement will be announced soon including a CP787.
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Thank u AIN KHALED
One of the great post I have read so far about the situation in Qr Sadly true.
IMO the CEO should give them a Sticker on their office door " Do Not Disturb Long Naps in Progress"
With the Oscar and a palm for BAD in all categories respectively to A320F line and training, the recruit Dpt destroyed hope in this fleet and this dudes are simply witnesses to the demolition.
I have two friend on the A320 fleet totaly depressed and distroyed the poor guys, 2-1/2 years in the sand pit with no chance to get out guantanamo bay.
As a matter of fact any new recruit should be put on the challenger or global express regardless of previous experience and climb the ladder like everybody else did that's the policy of any major company no need for rocket science to do that just apply seniority by staff number and here you go
fly high and fast
One of the great post I have read so far about the situation in Qr Sadly true.
IMO the CEO should give them a Sticker on their office door " Do Not Disturb Long Naps in Progress"
With the Oscar and a palm for BAD in all categories respectively to A320F line and training, the recruit Dpt destroyed hope in this fleet and this dudes are simply witnesses to the demolition.
I have two friend on the A320 fleet totaly depressed and distroyed the poor guys, 2-1/2 years in the sand pit with no chance to get out guantanamo bay.
As a matter of fact any new recruit should be put on the challenger or global express regardless of previous experience and climb the ladder like everybody else did that's the policy of any major company no need for rocket science to do that just apply seniority by staff number and here you go
fly high and fast
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The sad part is that they are all, almost to a man, ex GF. EVPO, CPF, CP B777, A330/340, CP A320. None of them have prior management experience or training. What they do have in abundance is the ability to lie and backstab, claim credit for work they did not do and to denigrate the efforts of other hard working individuals that do actually perform well. Alas folk in this category are rare and are seen as a threat so are fair game for the mafia to play their dirty tricks on.
Laughably the HR dept did try to send the EVPO on a management training course at the Cranfield Institute of Technolgy in the UK. He cancelled his attendance at the last minute when he realised that it would be two weeks of very hard work, remote from London so he would not be able to go out boozing and chasing women each night.
Unbelievably the CEO later decided that EVP should not attend and told HR to send the CPT instead! At that time the CPT was outside the management fold but spent his spare time telling lies direct to 9th floor and generally ingratiating himself.
The CEO wanted him to go to Cranfield as a reward. Alas the poor chap could not even fill in the application form since he didn't understand what was required and he was too inexperienced. In the end he didn't go
What to do. There is nothing that can be done to break the whole ridiculous cycle. Time to go.
Laughably the HR dept did try to send the EVPO on a management training course at the Cranfield Institute of Technolgy in the UK. He cancelled his attendance at the last minute when he realised that it would be two weeks of very hard work, remote from London so he would not be able to go out boozing and chasing women each night.
Unbelievably the CEO later decided that EVP should not attend and told HR to send the CPT instead! At that time the CPT was outside the management fold but spent his spare time telling lies direct to 9th floor and generally ingratiating himself.
The CEO wanted him to go to Cranfield as a reward. Alas the poor chap could not even fill in the application form since he didn't understand what was required and he was too inexperienced. In the end he didn't go
What to do. There is nothing that can be done to break the whole ridiculous cycle. Time to go.
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Or you could now be in for the opportunity of a lifetime and apply for any of the recent job openings.......
Anyway I hope you guys are getting a proper sensible management team this time around.
Anyway I hope you guys are getting a proper sensible management team this time around.
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Time to apply to the posts ? 
The only way to survive in QR , It's fly, shut your mouth , close your ears, and cash you pay check at the end of the month.
Don't be sensitive or sentimental .
The only way to survive in QR , It's fly, shut your mouth , close your ears, and cash you pay check at the end of the month.
Don't be sensitive or sentimental .
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all you said, it's sad but true.
everything getting worse and more complicated here, while this airline could be really doing much much better.
and to you viewpoint - i agree with you, but there is a point, where it is enough, and they r going to touch it soon (at least in my case).
too much corruption, mafia and mismanagement is going on.
what to do
all you said, it's sad but true.
everything getting worse and more complicated here, while this airline could be really doing much much better.
and to you viewpoint - i agree with you, but there is a point, where it is enough, and they r going to touch it soon (at least in my case).
too much corruption, mafia and mismanagement is going on.
what to do
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unfortunately is all true,
it is getting worse and worse.
the contract,the pay,the accomodation,the place,the general sad and depressed atmosphere...no one is happy here is a matter of fact and on top of that....
MAXIMUM 3 DAYS IN A ROW TO BETTER ENJOY DOHA!!!
It is too much...fortunately lot's of jobs are opening up.
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PS my question is when they will start treating people normally and not like animals???
it is getting worse and worse.
the contract,the pay,the accomodation,the place,the general sad and depressed atmosphere...no one is happy here is a matter of fact and on top of that....
MAXIMUM 3 DAYS IN A ROW TO BETTER ENJOY DOHA!!!
It is too much...fortunately lot's of jobs are opening up.
NOF
PS my question is when they will start treating people normally and not like animals???
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Noise of freedom...MAx 3 days off in a row only for flight deck crew.
Cabin crew can have 4..5 ..6 days off in a row (i saw it...and i'm talking about days off.. not leave..!).
Oooh..sorry.. again i forgot i guess it's something totally normal here..and we shouldn't complain or rise any concerns...
Cabin crew can have 4..5 ..6 days off in a row (i saw it...and i'm talking about days off.. not leave..!).
Oooh..sorry.. again i forgot i guess it's something totally normal here..and we shouldn't complain or rise any concerns...
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never noise of freedom, never, thats the mentality here
look at the whole country, pretending to be a 1st world country - far far away
as long as the mafia is in rostering, tower and so on, nothing will change
and again, why should they? they get plenty of new joiners
enjoy the 5 star doha
one more thing: jeppesen interbids ambassadors are here again - what a joke - they do anyway, what they want, and not what the multi million dollar system is generating
look at the whole country, pretending to be a 1st world country - far far away
as long as the mafia is in rostering, tower and so on, nothing will change
and again, why should they? they get plenty of new joiners
enjoy the 5 star doha
one more thing: jeppesen interbids ambassadors are here again - what a joke - they do anyway, what they want, and not what the multi million dollar system is generating
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I noticed that too....cabin crew no limit on dasy off.
But I would like to have your opinion,gents on one aspect:
any crisis/recovery has a certain inertia so off course QR still has lots of applications ready,but are we sure that all this people will come here with EK,EY and all Asia hiring???
I don't think so...I believe and hope that things will have to change here otherwise all the good pilots will just leave.
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But I would like to have your opinion,gents on one aspect:
any crisis/recovery has a certain inertia so off course QR still has lots of applications ready,but are we sure that all this people will come here with EK,EY and all Asia hiring???
I don't think so...I believe and hope that things will have to change here otherwise all the good pilots will just leave.
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There is one little think that have changed and i noticed a few days ago..
Did you noticed that for the First Time in QR, the picture of AAB has been "removed" from the introduction page of our "in Flight magazine" and replaced by the Foreign minister's picture...hmmm interesting...
Did you noticed that for the First Time in QR, the picture of AAB has been "removed" from the introduction page of our "in Flight magazine" and replaced by the Foreign minister's picture...hmmm interesting...
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The way Mr. AAB spoil reputation of Qatari people i would expect they deport him to the moon or orbit to use as communication satelite for QTEL .
OOOOO what we will do with 3000 memos he has issued ?
What about all the lickers around him ? will they just change the flag ?
OOOOO what we will do with 3000 memos he has issued ?
What about all the lickers around him ? will they just change the flag ?
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Emirates do so for years .
In QR it is first time now happen . And Emirates does not have sick person holding position of CEO while QR has one .
AAB is having problems and only few people know reall story .
AAB had vertical path and he went very high ,when he fall he will hit the surface hard and ones on ground there will be a huge number of people lined up in queues to get a chance for pay back .
Let us see the free fall of DICTATOR
In QR it is first time now happen . And Emirates does not have sick person holding position of CEO while QR has one .
AAB is having problems and only few people know reall story .
AAB had vertical path and he went very high ,when he fall he will hit the surface hard and ones on ground there will be a huge number of people lined up in queues to get a chance for pay back .
Let us see the free fall of DICTATOR
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The situation in Qatar Airways is reaching a very critical point....
there's NO ONE HAPPY PERSON here,everybody is frustrated and almost depressed.
AAB is a little sick dictator....
we all know sooner or later how dictators end up!!!
NOF
Keep the faith...
there's NO ONE HAPPY PERSON here,everybody is frustrated and almost depressed.
AAB is a little sick dictator....
we all know sooner or later how dictators end up!!!
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Keep the faith...
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Smoke/Fire
They say: " if there is smoke there is fire "
AAB has internal and external enemies , when you hurt so many people all over globe they make sure you get it one day .
We have more waiting for punishment :
BM , SD , KC , NS ...............
AAB has internal and external enemies , when you hurt so many people all over globe they make sure you get it one day .
We have more waiting for punishment :
BM , SD , KC , NS ...............