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EK orders 32 more A380's(Merged)

Old 8th Jun 2010, 09:29
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EK at Berlin Airshow

I didn't think they would find use for 50+ 380s, but...

Emirates Airline expects profit to fly past $1 billion this year - The National Newspaper
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Old 8th Jun 2010, 11:15
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JUST been announced an EXTRA 32 A380's have been ordered at Berlin by EK. That brings the total to.........90!!!!!!!!!
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Old 8th Jun 2010, 11:42
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Crazy times ahead for emirates! Pilot recruitment will have to rise dramatically to keep up with the pace of expansion planned.

Out of interest will there new recruitment drive cause an exodous from lowcosts in Europe/States?
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Old 8th Jun 2010, 11:59
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Out of interest will there new recruitment drive cause an exodous from lowcosts in Europe/States?
Might do. However most of the people I fly with on a daily basis say things like "I'd go anywhere but the ME"!!
I on the other hand could be on my way if the package is good enough. Maybe not to EK, more likely EY. We'll see.......
As a side question whats with the bit at the end of that article that says Emirates has 50 737s on order? Assume thats a mis-print and should read Fly Dubai has an order for 50 737s?
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Old 8th Jun 2010, 12:52
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EK orders 32 more A380's(Merged)

Well here it is, 32 more 380's ordered in Berlin worth more than $11Bn


ILA: Emirates orders 32 more Airbus A380s
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Old 8th Jun 2010, 13:05
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With regards to where all the "drivers" will come from..............

If the Rescue Packages for UK Ltd and other EU countries are going to be as tough as needed then few in the EU will have the spare cash to take overseas holidays,as a result the holiday companies and their airlines are going to have a really tough time.

Supply and Demand will dictate that not all of the holiday carriers will survive.

And a job is a job even in the sandpit.

Looks like the 70s all over again.



So EK will get the pilots ..........................just wonder who will be filling the back of the aircraft
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i just can't get my head around this...
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Old 8th Jun 2010, 17:46
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Emirates total order of A380 is 90

Emirates orders a new 32 of A380 In the face of the Aviation downturn.
Which brings the total order of the A380 to 90.
At the same time lowering the bar for the new hire,
wondering!How many pilots will they need over the next 2 to 3 years?
I think the turning point is getting closer,Then time will again be on the pilot's side.


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Old 8th Jun 2010, 17:47
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Emirates orders a further 32 Airbus A380s

Dubai based Emirates Airline has ordered a further 32 A380s from Airbus, taking their total firm orders for the iconic flagship of the 21st century to 90 aircraft. The order has a list price of US$ 11.5 billion. The agreement was signed in a ceremony today at the Berlin Air Show witnessed by German Chancellor Angela Merkel, by Emirates Airline Group Chairman and CEO His Highness Sheikh Ahmed Bin Saeed Al-Maktoum, and Airbus President and CEO Tom Enders

“This latest order, adding to 58 A380s previously ordered, affirms Emirates’ strategy to become a world leading carrier and to further establish Dubai as a central gateway to worldwide air travel. The A380 is our flagship in terms of passenger comfort, innovation, operating and environmental efficiency and revenue generation. Our latest commitment signals Emirates’ confidence in the growth to come in a thriving aviation sector,” said H.H.Sheikh Ahmed Bin Saeed Al- Maktoum.

“Emirates has supported the development of the A380 from the earliest days, and today’s order - the single largest A380 order ever - is the best endorsement I can imagine. On behalf of all of us at Airbus, we thank Emirates for their confidence and support. The A380 is indeed a remarkable eco-efficient aircraft, a profit generator for airlines and a great flying experience for passengers,” said Tom Enders.

Following delivery of their first A380 in July 2008, Emirates now operates ten aircraft serving eight international destinations including London Heathrow, Toronto, Paris, Jeddah, Bangkok, Seoul, Sydney and Auckland. The airline expects the list of destinations to increase as more and more airports around the world are A380 ready. Emirates’ tenth A380, received on 7 June 2010, is on static display at the ILA Berlin Air Show. All Emirates’ A380 are powered by Engine Alliance GP7200 engines and delivered from Hamburg. In Germany more than 30 major suppliers are directly feeding into the A380 programme. The A380 programme alone adds an estimated 40,000 direct, indirect and induced German jobs.

The world’s largest passenger aircraft, the Airbus A380, is also the quietest and most fuel efficient, demonstrably consuming less than three litres of fuel per passenger per 100 kilometres. Nearly 5.5 million passengers have already enjoyed the new experience of flying on-board one of the 30 A380s in service, taking them to 20 major international destinations worldwide in unequalled comfort.
The A380 in-service fleet has accumulated over 15,000 commercial flights, and its operators have unanimously praised its popularity with passengers, higher load factors and superior profitability. With a range of 8,300nm / 15,400 km, and seating from 400 to more than 800 passengers, the A380 is the answer to alleviate traffic congestion at busy airports, cope with growth and minimise environmental impact. A380 firm orders now stand at 234 from 17 customers.
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Old 8th Jun 2010, 21:31
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Is this likely to enhance command for Airbus drivers and possibly slow/halt progression in years to come on the 777?
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Old 8th Jun 2010, 23:19
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apron, i sent u a pm, hope u can reply!!
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Old 8th Jun 2010, 23:20
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Is this likely to enhance command for Airbus drivers and possibly slow/halt progression in years to come on the 777?
If we took every A380 Airbus built, it would still take 9 years to fill the order. Flat out I don't think we'll get more than7 or 8 A380s a year. Yes, it will give the Airbus guys a much needed boost, but it's more likely the A350 will be the real mover on that side.

As to the 777, I believe Farnborough is the venue for THAT fleet announcement....
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32 more A380s You must be joking

Remember the financial collapse of 2008, anyone?
Abu Dhabi bailing the Emirate of Dubai out?
This is either the financial end of Dubai, Emirates Airline, or Airbus. I can`t imagine anyone buying into the massive profit reports from this airline year after year. Something just simply doesn`t add up. Rarely has.

Ahh, what the heck. This is the most unbelievable airline in the world.
What do I know anyway???

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Old 9th Jun 2010, 00:55
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Thankyou for your balanced posts re EK, I have been reading with interest.
It seems EK's expansion will be moreover with Airbus aircraft, majority A350.
Will the A350 do ultra long haul and similar patterns to the 777 ?
Is it true the A330 crew rosters are mainly night turnarounds to regional destinations ?
Please keep the informative posts coming.
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Old 9th Jun 2010, 03:35
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Remember the financial collapse of 2008, anyone?
You mean the year EK only made a $500 000 000 profit?

Abu Dhabi bailing the Emirate of Dubai out?
And taking a security over the one good asset Dubai had- EK!!

I can`t imagine anyone buying into the massive profit reports from this airline year after year.
How abour Price Waterhouse, who audit those results?

What do I know anyway???
....... I don't have an answer to that one.
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Old 9th Jun 2010, 03:39
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Well, we'll see! The A350 is no more than a Cad-Cam program at the moment, if Airbus don't get it out on time, I suspect EK will tell them to stick it and get more 777s, possibly 787s as well.

The A330 rosters are terrible at the moment. the 777 is taking over all the ULR flights, so, yes, they are doing the brunt of the night turn-arounds.

I don't know what routes in particular will be A350, but I think it's more medium-haul than ULR.
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Old 9th Jun 2010, 06:47
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First, His Highness has confirmed repeatedly that none of EK has been traded or given as any
kind of security for the bailout from the southern Cousins. He was on the contrary not amused
at all (politely put) about the traffic rights pouching of them lately (ORD, NRT).
This huge order seems to me as a highly political signal to the World: Don’t discard Dubai and
don’t take advantage of its slip. For Europe such an order could not come at a better time.
I believe it was most certainly arranged with ample kickbacks, like landing rights or other touristic
or economic deals with Dubai. Astutely done at the time when a recovery looks dawning.
On the other hand I believe this is a punch into the stomach of Abu Dhabi. We all know that
the Dubai bailout was not to help some kind of brother or cousin out of pathetic bloodline sympathy.
They knew [email protected]@dy well that if one of them goes down, the other will follow suit, too interwoven
are the systems. But as EY was only set up for the tit-for-tat little ego war between sheikies,
it would be tolerated to suck its Daddy’s wallet dry as long as it did not hamper too much EK.
But as EY started the unfair poaching game at the very time Dubai was in trouble, the latter had two choices:
Give in and hand EK on a tablet as “security”, that would have been taken in the very moment they signed, or to throw in the gauntlet. That’s what they did and the pressure is now on EY (and Qatar).

The order is huge, and it’s a gamble. But considering the situation it might just work out fine for Dubai.
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They knew [email protected]@dy well that if one of them goes down, the other will follow suit, too interwoven
are the systems
What utter garbage. Abu Dhabi has the largest sovereign fund in the world (or near enough to). Dubai has a sea of debt they are offering 30 cents on the dollar to their desperate creditors.
You seem to be trying to spin this as 'Dubai is the big player, and Abu Dhabi is the pretender!' Who do you think you are kidding?
This smells MUCH MORE like Airbus realising that Dubai could drag it down. They have no choice but to back EK. In for a penny...
I'd be interested in Abu Dhabi (as the de-facto owners of EK via Dubai Inc debt) how the dividend payments are going to be maintained with such a large capital requirement- or is that the game? IPO, anyone?
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IPO, anyone?
Inevitable IMHO.
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Thanks for the garbage, ferris.

Just look at Europe and see how interwoven their system is. They can't afford to let Greece go bankrupt for the exact same reason Abu Dhabi can't let Dubai go down the drain.This is not my spin, but economical reality, especially with shared currencies.

The two airline companies play a game somewhat parallel to the national economy, again, just as do airlines in Europe an America, allthough they play an integral part of it. Here, and only here, EK is definitely the big player and EY the pretender.

Your presumtion that Abu Dhabi is the de facto owner of EK is more of a spin. Who in their right mind would "own" a company that makes billions and in the same portfolio hold another similar one that makes the same amount backwards with a third of the size???? Not even pride would lead to such stupid behavior as it anihilates profit. If your presumption would be true, one company would vanish quite rapidly.
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