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Yes they will struggle to get qualified people when they do I'm sure something will change
There are enough qualified pilots who would apply if this materializes.
The other way is to lower the requirements and to continue the punitive leadership.
Now what do you think would be the cheaper and safer way in the long run???
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They were having difficulty getting pilots about 3 years ago. Thats when the large number of RJ types came and proved to be costly( overall additional training cost and failures). Someone mentioned RJ pilots were a dime a dozen meaning lots of them looking. The 2500 hr thing is for 320/73ng that were being interviewed at EY and EK has decided to look at those pilots as well. Also keep in mind that the hours requirements are Min's and at the moment the intake are generally well over that and not RJ.Sorry but those are the facts. 680 between now and Mar of 2012 and a whole bunch more after that. Keep updating is all I can recommend. Also make sure you really want to make the move, more and more pilots that have been here for 7 or more years are looking at getting out,reason don't like Dubai and dealing with the locals, as well as EK working you to the grave and they don't care.
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Guys there is a restriction on applicants without time on a/c over 30t.
For my 2 cents, This place is not worth coming to until the rosters change back to what they were. I can't plan my life at all anymore. That is the fact of the matter. Nobody minds working hard as long as they can get away from it all.
Every conversation I have each time I go to work is about poor rosters and the lack of freedom we have to do mutual swaps without a long list of rules to prevent us actually getting SOME sort of roster WE want.
Don't jump the gun guys. You will regret it.
For my 2 cents, This place is not worth coming to until the rosters change back to what they were. I can't plan my life at all anymore. That is the fact of the matter. Nobody minds working hard as long as they can get away from it all.
Every conversation I have each time I go to work is about poor rosters and the lack of freedom we have to do mutual swaps without a long list of rules to prevent us actually getting SOME sort of roster WE want.
Don't jump the gun guys. You will regret it.
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After reading this im definately applying !!!!!
Spanish First Officer, Santiago Andres, said: "Working as a First Officer with Emirates , has been extremely rewarding. The airline has an extensive route network which has enabled me to fly all over the world. I'm so pleased that my home country of Spain will become an Emirates passenger route from 1st August. I also really like living in Dubai - the lifestyle is something very special."
Spanish First Officer, Santiago Andres, said: "Working as a First Officer with Emirates , has been extremely rewarding. The airline has an extensive route network which has enabled me to fly all over the world. I'm so pleased that my home country of Spain will become an Emirates passenger route from 1st August. I also really like living in Dubai - the lifestyle is something very special."
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I suspect also their bonding policy doesn't help them much in attracting pilots with wide body experience. Why should someone with experience on 777 or 330/340 apply to EK and be bonded for 3 years, while he can go to etihad and be free to leave any time? Are they offering much better conditions than EY?
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July roster was the end of the bidding system for me. I received my roster and it just makes no sense. Just plainly disregarded my requests and optimized until the rosters were made. Such a proof of disrespect and especially desperation. We had good days here, but it is going downhill at such a rate right now that i am seriously getting worried about this airline. Been here 10 years +++ and thrust me what I see around me these days is just plain worrying. I did my time in this place, i need to stay a bit longer, but i feel sorry for those new joiners and what they will have to go through in the future. Countdown is on for me to leave this place. I enjoyed the good years. But today, what a change. You might be young, you might be out of a job, but only one advise, don't come here with high expectations you will be disappointed. One of the biggest change in Dubai is the other people in the city and how we are perceived. People from places worst than here know that they can basically get away with murder. No respect and frustrations every day. Going to get milk at the corner supermarket is now a mission. Not a fun mission at all. I can't stand the place. Yes i will go as soon as i can. I wish it would be today. But i'll just tolerate the place for a little longer and then leave. Good luck if you come. At this point it is just a job, and not a good one. It's not a lifetime carrier for sure.
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ekpilot, 10 years+++ is pretty good man and i take my hat off to you. What I would like to ask you is where on earth right now is a good place to work as an airline pilot? Aviation unfortunately might never return to where it was 10 years ago, and I've kind of accepted that. EK is a very professional airline and have come along way in just 25 years. I just hope none of my kids grow up and tell me they want to become pilots...
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Well exactly, it's hard everywhere to be in aviation, so better be in a place where you want to be if you are to struggle. Personally Dubai is getting a harder and harder place to live for many reasons. The main one is EK. The rest is up to you. As for your kids, it would be a very wise advise to tell them to find a different career.
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I suppose 10 years is a lot of time over here and it doesn't get any easier when Dubai becomes the source of your problems. All i can say is that EK are lucky to have guys like you and it would be in their benefit if you found a way to give in a few more years.
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I agree with ekpilot. Having done 10 years too, everything in DXB and EK is a nightmare. With almost everyone doing 90+ hours, there is virtually no leeway for roster swaps. Guys who want say a long SYD don't get them and guys that don't want it get it. To to then swap that 9 day trip. It's virtually impossible.
Like most guys the next best job comes up and I'm out of here!
Good luck to anyone wanting to come here. You'll need it!
Like most guys the next best job comes up and I'm out of here!
Good luck to anyone wanting to come here. You'll need it!
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Regarding trip swaps, the change to getting paid for actual flights flown rather than original rostered block hours seemed to be a change for the better. However, as usual, the benefit is for the company not the pilot group, as it means less swaps for them to manage.
This is because we are worked up against the productivity threshold all time now. So, unless you can organise a swap that keeps the hours close to the original, it will be denied due to one of you going into productivity. Also, due to this, you can almost forget swapping a trip for days off, unless you can balance the hours at some other time during the month.
This is because we are worked up against the productivity threshold all time now. So, unless you can organise a swap that keeps the hours close to the original, it will be denied due to one of you going into productivity. Also, due to this, you can almost forget swapping a trip for days off, unless you can balance the hours at some other time during the month.
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Inedible 5 day old soggy rolls and sandwiches on departure dxb.
Chicken, fish or beef enroute meal.
A desert that hasn't changed for more than 12 months.
Allowances at the other end that mean I subsidise the rostered overnights.
BMI coming down!
Chicken, fish or beef enroute meal.
A desert that hasn't changed for more than 12 months.
Allowances at the other end that mean I subsidise the rostered overnights.
BMI coming down!
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Outstation basing
Wouldn't other bases help our problems??? It really would help mine.
I have heard the reasons for not doing it but with the need for new guys what do you guys think?
I have heard the reasons for not doing it but with the need for new guys what do you guys think?
Taylor,
The situation at the moment is nowhere near as critical as it was three years ago. We were probably about six months away from MAJOR pay increases and a serious look at basings, as EK simply had no-one to recruit. Oil spiking at $148 and then the GCC took care of that!
It might be getting challenging at the moment, but they are still filling courses with qualified pilots.
Give it a year or two, and, if for once, nothing happens to put the industry back on it's arse (think 9/11, SARS, Desert Storm, '92 recession etc. etc.) MAYBE they'll have to look at bases, but we aren't even close at the moment.
The situation at the moment is nowhere near as critical as it was three years ago. We were probably about six months away from MAJOR pay increases and a serious look at basings, as EK simply had no-one to recruit. Oil spiking at $148 and then the GCC took care of that!
It might be getting challenging at the moment, but they are still filling courses with qualified pilots.
Give it a year or two, and, if for once, nothing happens to put the industry back on it's arse (think 9/11, SARS, Desert Storm, '92 recession etc. etc.) MAYBE they'll have to look at bases, but we aren't even close at the moment.
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Yep, that's what I thought too. I just think with the huge number of planes on order maybe, keeping my fingers crossed, it will happen before I leave. Of course with the new airport just down the street and/or the new terminal coming up who knows what is in store. Lets hope it is good for all of us.
Fly safe and see you on line!
Fly safe and see you on line!
Emirates management, if you are reading this, I'll fly for you! My terms are:
1. CX A-scale equivalent. You will have to pay that to attract crew; just as my current airline once had to.
2. Left seat A-380. Like me, there are lots of Airbus wide-body qualified pilots about, and you have a lot of A380's coming that you have to crew quickly and efficiently, have you not?
3. MEL base. Previous management of my current Asian airline once stated 'basings will never happen'; now I'm celebrating my fourth year based in Australia. It works well, the based pilots are productive 'happy campers', the company saves a fortune on housing and other allowances and there is a 'pool' of reserves at the major outports. Get over it: Dubai just doesn't 'cut it' as a place for most Westerners to live by choice.
4. Month on/month off roster. If you take care of your older pilots, you may get a few more years of service out of them and keep all those new aircraft flying out of that huge new airport you are building. My current company does not offer that, therefore that would be the main inducement for me and many other experienced wide-body Airbus pilots around the world to offer to help crew all those airframes that your company has ordered.
Of course, you will offer a similar package to your current pilots to improve morale and retain their services. How many runways are there going to be at the new airport again?
Please PM me when the aforementioned jets start arriving!
Yours in anticipation,
Captain Dart
1. CX A-scale equivalent. You will have to pay that to attract crew; just as my current airline once had to.
2. Left seat A-380. Like me, there are lots of Airbus wide-body qualified pilots about, and you have a lot of A380's coming that you have to crew quickly and efficiently, have you not?
3. MEL base. Previous management of my current Asian airline once stated 'basings will never happen'; now I'm celebrating my fourth year based in Australia. It works well, the based pilots are productive 'happy campers', the company saves a fortune on housing and other allowances and there is a 'pool' of reserves at the major outports. Get over it: Dubai just doesn't 'cut it' as a place for most Westerners to live by choice.
4. Month on/month off roster. If you take care of your older pilots, you may get a few more years of service out of them and keep all those new aircraft flying out of that huge new airport you are building. My current company does not offer that, therefore that would be the main inducement for me and many other experienced wide-body Airbus pilots around the world to offer to help crew all those airframes that your company has ordered.
Of course, you will offer a similar package to your current pilots to improve morale and retain their services. How many runways are there going to be at the new airport again?
Please PM me when the aforementioned jets start arriving!
Yours in anticipation,
Captain Dart
Last edited by Captain Dart; 28th Jun 2010 at 00:05.
So was I 
. However, many a true word is said in jest!
I'll enable my PM's when those new jets start arriving!
P.S. I would like a really nice hotel for those Dubai layovers.
. However, many a true word is said in jest! I'll enable my PM's when those new jets start arriving!
P.S. I would like a really nice hotel for those Dubai layovers.
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hello again. Emirates will be receving lots of b777 and consequently I believe recruitment is about 70-80% geared towards that fleet.
If I can get an interview it would probably mean a 2011 joining date. what are the deliveries plan for this year in terms of aircraft type. I m trying to figure out on what A/c type will the majority of the hiring be done in 2011
Thank you
If I can get an interview it would probably mean a 2011 joining date. what are the deliveries plan for this year in terms of aircraft type. I m trying to figure out on what A/c type will the majority of the hiring be done in 2011
Thank you