New Emirates Road Show Dates & Destinations
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DECs are a certainty. It is not a question of how many qualified F/Os there are it is a question of how many the training department can handle. The company won't loose any sleep over it because DECs are cheaper to train and on-line quicker anyway.
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Hi!
EK will fly you to interview on their network.
I read that now 4 days off in a row is MAX, as the schedulers want to keep you in DXB and not let you commute or vacation.
LOTS of guys leaving EK now.
I meet the minimums and have heard nothing.
Does anyone know if you need PIC time...the website says nothing, but there are minimums that are not published...like age limitations.
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EK will fly you to interview on their network.
I read that now 4 days off in a row is MAX, as the schedulers want to keep you in DXB and not let you commute or vacation.
LOTS of guys leaving EK now.
I meet the minimums and have heard nothing.
Does anyone know if you need PIC time...the website says nothing, but there are minimums that are not published...like age limitations.
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Atp Cliff,
Most of your post is incorrect.
I've just had 6 days off in a row (top bid admittedly).
6 pilots have will have left between 1st May and 31st June. This extrapolates to between 50-60 a year with a pilot workforce of about 2300. Hardly guys leaving in HUGE numbers, but worrying none the less during a downturn in the industry.
Most of your post is incorrect.
I've just had 6 days off in a row (top bid admittedly).
6 pilots have will have left between 1st May and 31st June. This extrapolates to between 50-60 a year with a pilot workforce of about 2300. Hardly guys leaving in HUGE numbers, but worrying none the less during a downturn in the industry.
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Hi!
I read about two guys that had 4-5 days off before vacation. The schd inserted 12 hours of reserve at the end of their days off, and before vacation, so they could not leave "early". They said 4 days in a row max...glad it is changing for the better!
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I read about two guys that had 4-5 days off before vacation. The schd inserted 12 hours of reserve at the end of their days off, and before vacation, so they could not leave "early". They said 4 days in a row max...glad it is changing for the better!
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Originally Posted by atpcliff
I read that now 4 days off in a row is MAX, as the schedulers want to keep you in DXB and not let you commute or vacation.
And even if it was the case it would be nothing to do with the schedulers - they are just cogs in the wheel driven by our illustrious managers
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Got an email 3 weeks ago stating I was shortlisted for the second shot after being blanketed in 2008 after my first selection program which went all the way down to completing the medical successfully. Then with a bunch of people blanketed in June 2008.
If they need "applcations yesterday" why do they postpone my invitation to the second one? (10000hrs total, 6900 PIC EFIS commercial no-bugsmasher-jet). Thankfully my current job feeds me well, it's just the lure of greener grass...
They seem to mess it up. These clowns want a lot, in fact they screw around considerably.
I will ask them the toughest questions they have ever heard when they come to town.
Oh yes, I will post their answers here readily made available to the community.
Cheers
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If they need "applcations yesterday" why do they postpone my invitation to the second one? (10000hrs total, 6900 PIC EFIS commercial no-bugsmasher-jet). Thankfully my current job feeds me well, it's just the lure of greener grass...
They seem to mess it up. These clowns want a lot, in fact they screw around considerably.
I will ask them the toughest questions they have ever heard when they come to town.
Oh yes, I will post their answers here readily made available to the community.
Cheers
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Christ,
Perhaps these 'Clowns' as you call them also had to deal with a HUGE recession in 2008 which is why you were 'blanketed' and therefore weren't able to recruit you then due to a recruitment freeze??
Believe it or not , EK are interviewing 32 guys (and girls) EVERY week, and therefore you are not the only one having to wait for interview??
Perhaps even, your file was 'reviewed' and it has been established that you were only a 'marginal' pass last time, and there is a possibility you may well fail this time (especially with that nasty little man attitude you seem to have). We only currently have a 20-30% pass rate at selection.
I strongly suggest you please go ahead and ask your 'wanky' rude little questions and look forward to 'thanks, but no thanks, now f@ck off' response you truly deserve.......... Mate we're not that desperate (yet!).
Perhaps these 'Clowns' as you call them also had to deal with a HUGE recession in 2008 which is why you were 'blanketed' and therefore weren't able to recruit you then due to a recruitment freeze??
Believe it or not , EK are interviewing 32 guys (and girls) EVERY week, and therefore you are not the only one having to wait for interview??
Perhaps even, your file was 'reviewed' and it has been established that you were only a 'marginal' pass last time, and there is a possibility you may well fail this time (especially with that nasty little man attitude you seem to have). We only currently have a 20-30% pass rate at selection.
I strongly suggest you please go ahead and ask your 'wanky' rude little questions and look forward to 'thanks, but no thanks, now f@ck off' response you truly deserve.......... Mate we're not that desperate (yet!).
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Oblaaspop,
That has to be one of the rudest, wanky replies I have witnessed on Pprune for a very long time.
Fact is Mate, that many guys(and girls) were severely screwed around by EK last year. Recession or not, there is a way to deal with people and also a way to lose your integrity. EK and you have seemingly mastered them both.
Cav.
That has to be one of the rudest, wanky replies I have witnessed on Pprune for a very long time.
Fact is Mate, that many guys(and girls) were severely screwed around by EK last year. Recession or not, there is a way to deal with people and also a way to lose your integrity. EK and you have seemingly mastered them both.
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Well mate, a 'w@nky' attitude deserves a w@nky reply!!
Yes, I agree that many were screwed around last year (DUE TO A 'KIN RECESSION!!!!!), but there is no call for slagging off your potential employer or making threats towards them because you may have had to wait a few weeks to be called for interview!!
Get real.
Oh, by the way, I can be a hell of a lot ruder and nastier than that!!!
Yes, I agree that many were screwed around last year (DUE TO A 'KIN RECESSION!!!!!), but there is no call for slagging off your potential employer or making threats towards them because you may have had to wait a few weeks to be called for interview!!
Get real.
Oh, by the way, I can be a hell of a lot ruder and nastier than that!!!
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Hmmm, interesting stuff there from Strangestranger, thanks for taking the time. Regarding this;
is that to be taken in a negative way? I.e Anyone here from EZY or FR? Cos you can F
Off right now or we want those guys cos they fly their nuts off already and are well experienced and would therefore be 'easier' to train and fit in???
I dunno, all seems pretty good to me. Have mates out in DXB and they love it (non flying jobs) as a place to live and when I've mentioned the package for EK and taking into account my circumstances they seem to think it would be a great move. I just have this nagging bloody doubt!!!
Anyone with anymore info would be greatly appreciated - I'm not lazy just couldn't get along to any of the meetings!
Cheers peeps.
'anyone from EZY or RYR?'
Off right now or we want those guys cos they fly their nuts off already and are well experienced and would therefore be 'easier' to train and fit in???I dunno, all seems pretty good to me. Have mates out in DXB and they love it (non flying jobs) as a place to live and when I've mentioned the package for EK and taking into account my circumstances they seem to think it would be a great move. I just have this nagging bloody doubt!!!
Anyone with anymore info would be greatly appreciated - I'm not lazy just couldn't get along to any of the meetings!
Cheers peeps.
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Please be aware of one small fact when attending a roadshow, the presenters will tel you how things are now, i.e. 4 1/2 to 5 years to command is what is happening now. There is accommodation available now. EK is expanding rapidly now.
Once you get here, you will see that this is a very fluid environment, things that were said at the roadshow and during your interview were never meant as predictors of your career, merely things that were happening then.
The guys who are getting their commands at 5 years now, were expecting commands at 3 years. There are a number of pilots who were told all about Accelerated Command, being 18 months, who are now sitting in the queue for their 5-7 year slot.
There are those guys who arrived 2 years ago, who spent a year in temporary accommodation.
Ask your friends about how quickly things change here, and factor that into your decision making.
Having said the above, if the world is entering a growth phase, there are worse places to be.
Once you get here, you will see that this is a very fluid environment, things that were said at the roadshow and during your interview were never meant as predictors of your career, merely things that were happening then.
The guys who are getting their commands at 5 years now, were expecting commands at 3 years. There are a number of pilots who were told all about Accelerated Command, being 18 months, who are now sitting in the queue for their 5-7 year slot.
There are those guys who arrived 2 years ago, who spent a year in temporary accommodation.
Ask your friends about how quickly things change here, and factor that into your decision making.
Having said the above, if the world is entering a growth phase, there are worse places to be.
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Yeah, valid points there Skyvan bit you can say that about any job in any industry in any part of the world right now.
Take my Mrs for example. She started a job a few years ago now in the City with the promise of rapid promotion through the ranks, a stable salary structure with increments every year etc etc with a VERY reputable organisation. Nearly three years down the line - not a sniff of a promotion, has had her paycut and contract changed without negotiation including removal of nearly all benefits and not a single increment in her salary. Sound familiar??!! The World is ****e right now and it just a case of trying to find where is less ****e to try and settle with that.
She's understandably looking round but so far everything that comes up is for a 3 month contract here, 3 month contract there. In Dubai - they are crying out for people in her role, pay nearly 3 times as much with full benefits package you name it. Obviously that is all subject to change, however one of her best mates from her current company went out there a year or so ago and can't get enough of it, has 10 times a better lifestyle than we have in the UK.
As a young couple (mid twenties) with no kids, two potential big incomes, free housing and all else that goes with it the Emirates/Etihad and Dubai thing is a massive pull for us. However if you trawl some of my previous posts on the subject we're not being blinded by the sales pitch and this is a very careful and considered process.
However, back to the topic. Keep the info coming and if you'd prefer to PM they are much appreciated. Like I said I'm not a lazy sod just couldn't get to any of the meetings cos FR are flying me too hard!! But I aint complaining
Take my Mrs for example. She started a job a few years ago now in the City with the promise of rapid promotion through the ranks, a stable salary structure with increments every year etc etc with a VERY reputable organisation. Nearly three years down the line - not a sniff of a promotion, has had her paycut and contract changed without negotiation including removal of nearly all benefits and not a single increment in her salary. Sound familiar??!! The World is ****e right now and it just a case of trying to find where is less ****e to try and settle with that.
She's understandably looking round but so far everything that comes up is for a 3 month contract here, 3 month contract there. In Dubai - they are crying out for people in her role, pay nearly 3 times as much with full benefits package you name it. Obviously that is all subject to change, however one of her best mates from her current company went out there a year or so ago and can't get enough of it, has 10 times a better lifestyle than we have in the UK.
As a young couple (mid twenties) with no kids, two potential big incomes, free housing and all else that goes with it the Emirates/Etihad and Dubai thing is a massive pull for us. However if you trawl some of my previous posts on the subject we're not being blinded by the sales pitch and this is a very careful and considered process.
However, back to the topic. Keep the info coming and if you'd prefer to PM they are much appreciated. Like I said I'm not a lazy sod just couldn't get to any of the meetings cos FR are flying me too hard!! But I aint complaining
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Couple Questions here guys....Attending that open house gives u more points to get invited to the actual interview? Do they talk to u directly for couple mins or its just a big crowd? Is it better to bring your wife with you(no jokes for wives!!! she already knows all the pprune myths and facts) ?
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My experience was that after the presentation, you can talk to the recruiter or the pilot, the recruiter will make notes on your 'pilot info sheet' which you are asked to fill in before leaving and the pilot will give you a straight answer to a straight question.
We were told that everybody who attended and filled in a pilot info sheet would be contacted for interview 'as a priority'.
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We were told that everybody who attended and filled in a pilot info sheet would be contacted for interview 'as a priority'.
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Attending that open house gives u more points to get invited to the actual interview?
Is it better to bring your wife with you
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Sorry Gents, I don't know if someone already answer this question, but ... to attend a roadshow you need to be invited or you just show up in a nice suite? thanks
