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Old 12th Oct 2021, 11:30
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Old 16th Oct 2021, 13:42
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There are currently 1000 cadet pilots waiting to complete their training. So Turkish Airlines does not intend to recruit first officers from outsourced until 2023.

As for the need for captaincy, nearly 200 captain pilots who fly A330/A320 are waiting outside due to the bankrupting of Atlasglobal and Onur Air's lack of flight for months.
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Old 11th Mar 2023, 09:09
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Anyone with updated details about the terms and conditions for Captain wide body at Turkish Airlines?
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Old 11th Mar 2023, 12:44
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Originally Posted by bettigio
Milio1214

Hang in there. If you quit, they win and you lose 4 years of seniority. These 5 months will go quick.
Hi mate, I did the same, they called us back and I flow 847 hours for 2022, it was a hell roster, and they paid almost 4 additional salaries which was around150, 48, 40 thousand lira
1USD=19.5 Turkish lira as an average.

inflation rate in turkey is almost zero75 up to 100 percent but for living in turkey its descent salary but if you live abroad its not good at all ,for average salary as a captain with including 3 months bonus you may get between 9.500 up 11500 just bear in mind roster and crew planning is chaos
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Old 13th Mar 2023, 06:56
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I'm considering Turkish Airlines as an open possibility to leave the gulf region, since they have the commuting for wide body. It might suit me as I would be commuting from Europe.
If some of you could shed a light about the current terms and conditions would be great!
Even though eventually the roster is a chaos, do they honor the commuting?
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Old 13th Mar 2023, 08:15
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Originally Posted by FlyHigher
I'm considering Turkish Airlines as an open possibility to leave the gulf region, since they have the commuting for wide body. It might suit me as I would be commuting from Europe.
If some of you could shed a light about the current terms and conditions would be great!
Even though eventually the roster is a chaos, do they honor the commuting?
From my experience in Turkey, in general, they normally fall short of honoring anything. Language is always a barrier and they almost always ensure that you feel you're an outsider who's there to gobble up their resources.
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Old 13th Mar 2023, 09:33
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Thank you ChipmunkDive for your input. It is indeed a pity being like that!
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Old 16th Mar 2023, 08:26
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Originally Posted by ChipmunkDive
From my experience in Turkey, in general, they normally fall short of honoring anything. Language is always a barrier and they almost always ensure that you feel you're an outsider who's there to gobble up their resources.
thanks for the advice, that was my suspicion since i met a few fellow colleagues
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Old 16th Mar 2023, 12:18
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Are they hiring only Turkish citizen?
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Old 16th Mar 2023, 20:04
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Originally Posted by Bravo_Alpha
Are they hiring only Turkish citizen?
For now, yes. It is expected they will open hiring for expats in a few months.
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Old 17th Mar 2023, 03:36
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Originally Posted by FlyHigher
I'm considering Turkish Airlines as an open possibility to leave the gulf region, since they have the commuting for wide body. It might suit me as I would be commuting from Europe.
If some of you could shed a light about the current terms and conditions would be great!
Even though eventually the roster is a chaos, do they honor the commuting?
Yes, they honor the commuting. For wide body Captains.
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Old 17th Mar 2023, 03:42
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Originally Posted by ChipmunkDive
From my experience in Turkey, in general, they normally fall short of honoring anything. Language is always a barrier and they almost always ensure that you feel you're an outsider who's there to gobble up their resources.
I don’t know for elsewhere but in Turkish Airlines the commuting contract, for Expat Wide Body Captains, IS honored.
Language barrier : in English in TK. In the country, sometimes a problem, yes.
Feel a stranger ? Not to much…Maybe for Expat FOs…
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Old 17th Mar 2023, 20:28
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Are the commuting/travel days within the 21 days ON, that way you have full 7 days OFF at home?
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Old 18th Mar 2023, 10:34
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At one point before the pandemic struck, some agents had been painting the narrow body THY offer as 'commutable'. IIRC it was 5 days off stringed together.

Let's protect what we have, if by simply adhering to the correct and unambiguous terms.

The previous post implies 21+7 (=6+2) as commuting, and I cry foul.

Commuting shall forever mean you don't relocate the family. 21+10 (same as the Baltic ACMI summer) or 6+3 / 4+2 is pushing it, and rather impossible in the long term to maintain proper familial relations.

3+2 / 4+3 / 18+13 / 160 off annually. That's where 'commuting' starts. The corporate is trying to sell you something entirely different.

There are 52 weekends per year. The standard work-class, blue collar (which we are from cost/yield viewpoint) pattern has
52x2 weekends
15 (3 weeks worth of vacation)
5 (statutory Bank Holidays, best guess)
= 124 days home in full
with every night in own bed in between!
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Let's not insult ourselves nor our dependants that 7-per-month (84 yearly) or even 8 (96 yearly) is commuting. No, that is just insulting terminology and an outright lie, from someone who attempts not to pay the family relocation cost and associated expenses.

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The above is not THY specific.

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Old 19th Mar 2023, 15:07
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Cool 8 days off

Originally Posted by FlyHigher
Are the commuting/travel days within the 21 days ON, that way you have full 7 days OFF at home?
21 days ON followed by 8 days off. Then 21 days ON…….

On the first day OFF you can Take the first flight to home at 8 or 9 am. Usually only 3 hrs or less to Europe. You’re home for lunch ! Thanks to Time difference !
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Old 19th Mar 2023, 15:15
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Originally Posted by FlightDetent
At one point before the pandemic struck, some agents had been painting the narrow body THY offer as 'commutable'. IIRC it was 5 days off stringed together.

Let's protect what we have, if by simply adhering to the correct and unambiguous terms.

The previous post implies 21+7 (=6+2) as commuting, and I cry foul.

Commuting shall forever mean you don't relocate the family. 21+10 (same as the Baltic ACMI summer) or 6+3 / 4+2 is pushing it, and rather impossible in the long term to maintain proper familial relations.

3+2 / 4+3 / 18+13 / 160 off annually. That's where 'commuting' starts. The corporate is trying to sell you something entirely different.

There are 52 weekends per year. The standard work-class, blue collar (which we are from cost/yield viewpoint) pattern has
52x2 weekends
15 (3 weeks worth of vacation)
5 (statutory Bank Holidays, best guess)
= 124 days home in full
with every night in own bed in between!
​​​​​
Let's not insult ourselves nor our dependants that 7-per-month (84 yearly) or even 8 (96 yearly) is commuting. No, that's an insult terminology and outright lie, from someone who attempts to not pay the family relocation cost and associated expenses.

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The above is not THY specific.
NAILED IT!

Unfortunately some people don´t understand this fact - until reality hits them, with the wife and kids being alienated and the dog looks at you as you´re a stranger!
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Old 3rd Apr 2023, 10:45
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Originally Posted by Klimax
NAILED IT!

Unfortunately some people don´t understand this fact - until reality hits them, with the wife and kids being alienated and the dog looks at you as you´re a stranger!
narrow body TK: see above
wide body TK as Captain : the question was about it: so close to Europe ! You can return for 2 days…Plus the 8 in a row of course…No problem with wife, kids and dog ! And it is not to avoid relocation! You have the pleasure to see your home, your country often!
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Old 5th Apr 2023, 22:26
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Careful up there guys. Locals can be seriously dodgy, esp LH seat. SOP's are not always adhered to. And, as for remuneration...Turkish Lira is heading to worthless.
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Old 12th Apr 2023, 12:49
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Expat captains have block days off, so it is possible to commute. Especially if you are on wide body and live somewhere 3-4 hours away, you can also go home after ER flights.

The narrow body, is possible for block-off days but quite hard on other days, and the rostering is very chaotic.

Originally Posted by MissChief
Careful up there guys. Locals can be seriously dodgy, esp LH seat. SOP's are not always adhered to. And, as for remuneration...Turkish Lira is heading to worthless.
Which fleet are you referring to? Been flying on A320 (and recently A330) for around 5 years and haven't seen any captain "not adhering to SOP".

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Old 11th May 2023, 17:25
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Hiring foreigners

Anybody has any idea , if they are planning to hire foreigners anytime soon ?
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