Ek Runners (absconders - not the Nike guys)

[flaphandlemover]

EK Runners and K A G threat (SIN incident)

Hi gents,

just wondered, how many pilots did a runner within the last 3 month?
I heard about one guy in ZRH... and another one just didn't show up for duty.. his phone says ".......... MUGALAG"

Can anyone confirm the story that a FO should have gone to drugtesting be4 flight but somehow managed to get on the ac in DXB. SMNC contacted the cpt that the fo has to get off.. what he did.... but he never showed up at EGHQ.
He bought Himself a ticket with another airline and flew off instantly.


And by the way... there are @ least two more coming up by the end of the month.

[max magic]

I know of 2 guys who decided not to return after unpaid leave last summer

[Fart Master]

Apparently 5 septic tanks didn't come back from leave last summer, only rumour tho

Have seen 4 villas vacated in DSO within the last month

[Fred Garvin M.P.]

The rumor being told in recurrent ground school is that the guy ended up in the terminal for three days before he was found.

[Bypass ratio]

What do you reckon would be the funniest/costliest runner to do?

I reckon a 9 day BKK/SYD, departing when etisalat has cut your mobile off and your bank is chasing your credit card/loan repayment. Leave the villa lights on and the water running. Run up a huge bill in the Bangkok & Sydney Hotel (unpaid of course), change the cost index while the other pilot is not looking. Cruise at M0.87 while the other guy is asleep, maximum reverse and finally, call sick in Christchurch on the turnaround?

[ab33t]

Yes more and more seem to be putting their running shoes on

[Panther 88]

Alot are on, just not laced quite yet. The clock is ticking.

[cerbus]

The FO showed up drunk for a IAH flight. The operating captain did him in. He was removed from the flight and was told to go take a drug test in headquarters but went home instead through the terminal and way of taxi.
The company to everyone's surprise did nothing maybe because they could not prove anything.
As hard as everyone is working and as depressed as everyone is about the drastic turn southward of Emirates is it any wonder that we have pilots showing up for work drunk. Keep recovering!

[flaphandlemover]

still: NO drinkdriving

NO DRINKFLYING

no matter how far south EK stands now....

[Kamelchaser]

Sorry Cerbus,

Have no idea about the circumstances behind that incident, and I'm sure it's not all that simple, but there is simply no excuse whatsoever for turning up drunk, or smelling of alcohol, or whatever.

Regardless of how bad EK acts, none of us can condone that. That sort of behaviour just gives management more ammunition to treat us like kids.

Not cool.

(actually I re-read your post and you don't condone it...but my comments still stand re the FO..no excuse)

[trimotor]

Concur. And it's never as simple as it sounds.

[cerbus]

I couldn't agree with the above any more. There is no excuse for showing up drunk for work.
I will say that the captain should have told the FO to call in sick or he would call the company. We all make mistakes and deserve a second chance or at least a way out. If he does fly drunk though the offending pilot does not have much to stand on.
That p#&$k local captain in SIN that did the drinking Canadian FO in should be given the treatment. Again not that I condone what the FO was doing but I would love to see that captain and enlighten him.

[muppet in the sky]

Whats the point in doing a runner if you are arriving to the aircraft drunk??? With this record, you definately destroyed any chance of joining another carrier

[411A]

That p#&$k local captain in SIN that did the drinking Canadian FO in should be given the treatment.

Why?
Do you all of a sudden condone drinking pilots at one airline, but not the other?

No wonder EK management has problems with some of their pilots...it would appear that a few act like children,
I expect EK will have absolutely no trouble whatsoever attracting new First Officers...now, nor in the future.

[The Zohan]

With this record, you definately destroyed any chance of joining another carrier

he was never tested positive....so doing a runner was the best option. preatty clear thinking for being drunk

tz

[SOPS]

Once again good old 411a hops in, and shows he has no idea what he is talking about.

Cerbus was NOT condoning drinking at any airline.....

[cerbus]

411A just for the record EK is having trouble getting pilots even from ****e airlines. Not that many pilots want to come and put up with the crap that mangement is so good at delivering. The tossers wanted to hire in Dec but could not get pilots that could come in time. If the pool was deep they could get pilots anytime from anywhere.
I don't know what you mean by EK pilots act like children. We are quite "whimpy" but we do the job even when we are nackerd.
The SIN incident happen to EK crew in a bar in SIN on a layover. If the local captain knew how to deal with mistakes he would not have involved the company because we all know how the company acts towards its hired help. Again I don't condone showing up for work drunk just so you get that message 411A

[sexdriven]

Regarding the SIN incident, no matter what anybody says of the local capt who reported the incident, the FO deserved what he got. I am sorry guys but drinking before a flight, and that too in public, deserves a strong reprimand. Now some guys will go on about we all mistakes but the fact is that this was not a mistake but gross negligence.

[IXNAT]

You're right SD, BUT should not have the captain exercised good judgement, gone to the F/O, take him aside and tell him to close up shop and call in sick and then check that he did. Coward calls the company and washes his hands of it. Not at all condoning f/o behaviour but what does that say about the captain.

[411A]

Not at all condoning f/o behaviour but what does that say about the captain.

It says he was doing his job properly.
I have seen slightly tipsy pilots in the hotac just prior to duty, and suggest they call in sick.
One argued about this, so he was reported, and eventually terminated.

He was a fool.