Ek Runners (absconders - not the Nike guys)
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Good for you. I dont need a couple drinks to unwind. Nothing to do about being scared or living in the dark.
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I am rarely moved to post. Reference 5stars post a few up. I had the misfortune to fly with this guy way back in the 310 days. Honestly one of the most utterly revolting people I have ever had the displeasure of meeting. I was 2 weeks in ek and this 
had just checked out in the LHS. I will never forget one of the TRE's (still here by the way and a nice guy)pulling me over as we shipped out through the very old briefing faciltity and suggesting in the strongest possible terms that if I had ANY doubt at ANY time to grab it off him and not give it back. Inspiring stuff for your new hire! Subsequent events and trips proved this to be justified.
On a personal level this a**hole is on the same par as the one running afghanis over with a truck. The events described sadly dont supprise me one bit.
A disgrace to our profession, country and human kind.
had just checked out in the LHS. I will never forget one of the TRE's (still here by the way and a nice guy)pulling me over as we shipped out through the very old briefing faciltity and suggesting in the strongest possible terms that if I had ANY doubt at ANY time to grab it off him and not give it back. Inspiring stuff for your new hire! Subsequent events and trips proved this to be justified. On a personal level this a**hole is on the same par as the one running afghanis over with a truck. The events described sadly dont supprise me one bit.
A disgrace to our profession, country and human kind.
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K A G...
His pic on the portal is in a dishdasher and when i flew with him, he gave the cabin crew a f... hard time...
I liked the way he communicated... the finest CRM you can find on earth. He should become a CRM trainer. He is a raw model how to treat and talk to everyone
got fired twice already (if i'm not mistaken.. could be three times though)
went to HH and cried on his knees to come bk.... What a w....r.
Is after every skirt he can get....
A RAW MODEL OF OUR PROFESSION (joke)
His pic on the portal is in a dishdasher and when i flew with him, he gave the cabin crew a f... hard time...
I liked the way he communicated... the finest CRM you can find on earth. He should become a CRM trainer. He is a raw model how to treat and talk to everyone
got fired twice already (if i'm not mistaken.. could be three times though)
went to HH and cried on his knees to come bk.... What a w....r.
Is after every skirt he can get....
A RAW MODEL OF OUR PROFESSION (joke)
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More about SIN: During the layover our dear local friend apparently tried his luck on our of our hosties, only to be turned down by her. 
I love it.....
The looser then called FDM and took his revenge out on the WHOLE crew by accusing them of drinking within 12hours from duty (which they were not!!!). Result: all had to take the breath test at check-out. The FO was the victim of his act as he had the most beers and did not refuse to be tested 2.5 hours before the start of the flight to BNE....
Beware if you get paired with him. It won't be me, that's for sure!!!
I love it.....The looser then called FDM and took his revenge out on the WHOLE crew by accusing them of drinking within 12hours from duty (which they were not!!!). Result: all had to take the breath test at check-out. The FO was the victim of his act as he had the most beers and did not refuse to be tested 2.5 hours before the start of the flight to BNE....
Beware if you get paired with him. It won't be me, that's for sure!!!
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wrong calculation
Very sad indeed. Lets suppose, a guy that drinks a lot, lets say 4 beers (330ml/5%) an hour, so 2 hours before 13 hours limit, he would have a BAC 0.026, after 15 hours, at check-in he should be 0%.
He probably underestimated the alcohol content, however if 2hours later he was 0%, why was he charged?
I think you cannot be careful enough, it is so easy to missjudge, I guess 24 hrs layovers it is better to stay away or have just very few light beers.
He probably underestimated the alcohol content, however if 2hours later he was 0%, why was he charged?
I think you cannot be careful enough, it is so easy to missjudge, I guess 24 hrs layovers it is better to stay away or have just very few light beers.
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He's on 777.
The SIN "incident" was brought up at the Commander's Conference last year. TCAS's response was..... "That's the kind of Leadership we want!!"
Aren't these guys special....
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The SIN "incident" was brought up at the Commander's Conference last year. TCAS's response was..... "That's the kind of Leadership we want!!"
Aren't these guys special....
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I have to concur with the above comments. One of the three worst pilots I have flown with in 28 years in aviation.
Shocking flying skills, atrocious CRM, racist and sexist thrown in for effect.
After flying with him as an FO (where, amongst many other things on a 45min sector, he managed to flare at 50 feet in a lightweight 772), I vowed never to fly with him again. As a Capt, I stand by that position; I will never operate with him on a ULR flight. My family will certainly never fly on a flight he is on if I can help it.
People like this simply should not be in charge of a motor car, let alone an aircraft.
End of strongly opinionated statement.
Shocking flying skills, atrocious CRM, racist and sexist thrown in for effect.
After flying with him as an FO (where, amongst many other things on a 45min sector, he managed to flare at 50 feet in a lightweight 772), I vowed never to fly with him again. As a Capt, I stand by that position; I will never operate with him on a ULR flight. My family will certainly never fly on a flight he is on if I can help it.
People like this simply should not be in charge of a motor car, let alone an aircraft.
End of strongly opinionated statement.
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Who could forget his usual habit of having the radar tilted so far down he used to try to avoid **ing islands in the Bay of Bengal?
I thought the man in question was on a final warning letter quite some years ago and told that one more substianted complaint from an FO and he was out.
I supposed the management weenie who put that letter on his file has long been replaced and the "aarrr" current management doesn't read personnel files written by non-"aarrrr" management.
The man in question is the only FO (when he was still an FO) I have ever fronted while away on a trip before a sector and given him a choice - change your ways and change them big time or I'm delaying the flight and calling Dubai and asking them to send me a new FO. To his credit, he changed his ways for the rest of the trip. However, it would seem he reverted to his usual ways pretty soon afterwards. (It was the last time I ever flew with him, [I suspect that was his doing, because I'm sure he was as unkeen to fly with me again as I was to fly with him], but I'd have to agree with the sentiments of those who've posted before me.)
I thought the man in question was on a final warning letter quite some years ago and told that one more substianted complaint from an FO and he was out.
I supposed the management weenie who put that letter on his file has long been replaced and the "aarrr" current management doesn't read personnel files written by non-"aarrrr" management.
The man in question is the only FO (when he was still an FO) I have ever fronted while away on a trip before a sector and given him a choice - change your ways and change them big time or I'm delaying the flight and calling Dubai and asking them to send me a new FO. To his credit, he changed his ways for the rest of the trip. However, it would seem he reverted to his usual ways pretty soon afterwards. (It was the last time I ever flew with him, [I suspect that was his doing, because I'm sure he was as unkeen to fly with me again as I was to fly with him], but I'd have to agree with the sentiments of those who've posted before me.)
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The guy is an idiot!
I had the misfortune of being his FO on a trip 3 years ago.
Most unpleasant flight I have ever done,his CRM is unbelievable, his flying attrocious, argued with ATC all the way there and back, even tried to disregard a heading instruction to avoid prohibited Airspace.
Had to apologise to a Qatari crew in the hotel because of his antics, they thought he was the FO on the flight, he was that unprofessional!
Closest I've come to walking of a flight deck (or smacking the)
Will never fly with him again!
Mate of mine got called out to fly with him couple of months ago, was telling me of this prat of a captain he just flown with, and some of his antics, and was surprised that I was able to name him without prompting.
Unfortunately, he is protected so his sacking will never stick!
Beware, life's too short to screw your career on one of his flights!
I had the misfortune of being his FO on a trip 3 years ago.
Most unpleasant flight I have ever done,his CRM is unbelievable, his flying attrocious, argued with ATC all the way there and back, even tried to disregard a heading instruction to avoid prohibited Airspace.
Had to apologise to a Qatari crew in the hotel because of his antics, they thought he was the FO on the flight, he was that unprofessional!
Closest I've come to walking of a flight deck (or smacking the
)Will never fly with him again!
Mate of mine got called out to fly with him couple of months ago, was telling me of this prat of a captain he just flown with, and some of his antics, and was surprised that I was able to name him without prompting.
Unfortunately, he is protected so his sacking will never stick!
Beware, life's too short to screw your career on one of his flights!
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they thought he was the FO on the flight, he was that unprofessional!
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Had to apologise to a Qatari crew in the hotel because of his antics, they thought he was the FO on the flight, he was that unprofessional.
Well mate right up to there you had a credible post. 3 years ago you flew with him, so you would have been an FO there. Fast forward three years and you are either in the LHR, in which case if your comment is reflective of your vuews on teh guy sharing the office with you then you need a CRM course and a gyro re-set.
If oyu are still in teh RHS then you need to seriously ask yourself if you are command material..
Well mate right up to there you had a credible post. 3 years ago you flew with him, so you would have been an FO there. Fast forward three years and you are either in the LHR, in which case if your comment is reflective of your vuews on teh guy sharing the office with you then you need a CRM course and a gyro re-set.
If oyu are still in teh RHS then you need to seriously ask yourself if you are command material..
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If this " local " EK 777 Captain is as bad as several of you say , is it any wonder that Emirates has lost the confidence of so many people in this industry ? May I offer that the training department , standards, management , in fact you all are to blame ? Just doing nothing and allowing such an individual to retain such a responsible position is tantamount to negligence. It`s very easy to ask not to be rostered to fly with him , much , much easier to do " the runner. " I`d rather have expected more , " protected , priviledged , local arab type or not. Definitely time do think about that runner .....
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May I ask you a question. Have you ever worked in the ME?
While I have to agree with you that our reputation is going down the drain, may I ask you not to generalize... It's not because EK is ruined by the actions of a few brown nosers in management (more and more locals btw) that everyone is a looser on the line...
Most guys I flown with come from well established airlines (well at least that was the case >3 years ago --i dont know about the quality of the intake right now-) and do their jobs professionaly and are a joy to fly with. So to put us in the basket with our mgmt is way too easy. If you open your mouth you get a written warning or they look at you like you come from another planet...
About doing a runner here... I always have left previous companies with handshakes so not really my style. Don't forget that most guys have families here so it means it's a few more who have to do the running with you...
While I have to agree with you that our reputation is going down the drain, may I ask you not to generalize... It's not because EK is ruined by the actions of a few brown nosers in management (more and more locals btw) that everyone is a looser on the line...
Most guys I flown with come from well established airlines (well at least that was the case >3 years ago --i dont know about the quality of the intake right now-) and do their jobs professionaly and are a joy to fly with. So to put us in the basket with our mgmt is way too easy. If you open your mouth you get a written warning or they look at you like you come from another planet...
About doing a runner here... I always have left previous companies with handshakes so not really my style. Don't forget that most guys have families here so it means it's a few more who have to do the running with you...
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Blogwinder, ( and any other first officers that took offence)
My apologies, it must be consectutive 90+ hour months, my grammar was incorrect, I, in no way believe that this gentleman's ( and I use that term very loosely) behavior represents the standards of 99.9% of our FO's who are excellent and a credit to the company (It's a pity the company doesn't see it that way and insist on employing DEC's instead of promoting them!)
My apologies, it must be consectutive 90+ hour months, my grammar was incorrect, I, in no way believe that this gentleman's ( and I use that term very loosely) behavior represents the standards of 99.9% of our FO's who are excellent and a credit to the company (It's a pity the company doesn't see it that way and insist on employing DEC's instead of promoting them!)