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Old 19th Dec 2009, 16:48
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ek

write the name of this cpt,in this forum
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Old 19th Dec 2009, 17:25
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He is famous among cabin crew. He sits on the table with them and participates on their briefing instead of worry about his own briefing.
Any clue? (GB)
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Old 19th Dec 2009, 17:33
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I am shocked....Specially As we are just around Christmas. The spirit and season of giving.....

What goes around comes around.....

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Old 19th Dec 2009, 23:07
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If this is true, then this Captain is truly an apology for a human being. Disgusting soul and surely a low life with nothing better to do.
To report someone who put a smile on to a less fortunate human's face by giving him snacks.
This is simply disgusting and he needs to be taught a GOOD lesson from his colleagues...
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Old 20th Dec 2009, 03:30
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Allthough this seems to be a very low example of our species, let's not go too far. It seems to me that there is a lot of substitute venting towards this creep that would mainly go direction one or two equally low creatures sitting higher up the food chain.
For those who really want, it's easy to get his identity and then tell him directly what you feel. That's called educated and civilised social behavior.
For sure that is something I long to do with managers who have even less respect for fellow workers as this creep. Just read the latest drivel from one of them (Cabin Crew “Resting” in The Flight Deck ). I will not publish the content because it's not legal and it would scare away too many potential collegues we desperately need ...
... and they have unilateral repressive powers they use without any remorse or justice. That's called dictatorship.

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Old 20th Dec 2009, 03:50
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GMDS,

I thought the whole exercise was to discourage as many pilots as possible from coming here?, and just quietly, I think we've done a pretty good job so far. Okay, if you need a puppet show so you understand, imagine me standing in front of you in the non-muslim section of Spinneys with a puppet on each hand:

The less pilots that are attracted to this dump = better terms & conditions for all of us
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Old 20th Dec 2009, 04:03
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I would like to do a layover in Lagos with him!!!!!
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Old 20th Dec 2009, 04:18
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Poor idiot captain, I feel ashamed for this guy.
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Old 20th Dec 2009, 04:53
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Part II of this excellent story, and the bit that leaves me with a glimmer of hope that there is some perspective applied in the head-shed, is that the 'report' from the tosser Capt apparently made it well above the FDM, at which point the reporting Capt was told (in no uncertain terms, apparently) to stop wasting their time, as there were much bigger issues to deal with.

Hooray.
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Old 20th Dec 2009, 05:48
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@Bypass ratio
I hope most pilots are a little more skilled in detecting satyre.


@trimotor
yeah, sure, bigger issues! Like for instance cabin crew resting in the cockpit when completely shattered, instead of filing a ridiculous fatigue report that would be dealt with post mortem.
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Old 20th Dec 2009, 06:19
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It's sadly indicative of the company's management style that the FDMs, who are good people trying to do their own job, felt they had to pass the report up the line.
In a better culture, they would have "forgotten" about it or maybe it would have got "lost" in other things.

I heard the story a few days ago. What was he thinking

Thank God someone put him in his place.
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Old 20th Dec 2009, 07:04
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GMDS: whether bigger issues exist by your reckoning or not, and whether they are being dealt with or not is irrelevant: the point is that, assuming all is true, someone senior saw sense.
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Old 20th Dec 2009, 08:32
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Guys, just to get the facts right.

It was not just the pilot's lunch box but a bag of food and sealed juices from F or J class.

Having said that, I agree with most of the things that have been posted so far.

We shouldn't do such things to each other.

TZ
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Old 20th Dec 2009, 21:00
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Someone in the back must have been reporting it to enhance their genetic scumminess.
On several occasions I had some IFS (Chicken or Beef Department) supervisor attending the crew briefing, I would not be surprised if these guys file reports about the captains briefing.

The interference in EK with the captains authority is sickening and is getting worse bye the day. It is time to put IFS into their place

Enough said

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Old 22nd Dec 2009, 01:43
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Ladies 'n gents

Let's be clear: the FOM strictly prohibits the actions taken by the FO in this incident.

No matter what yer political er charitable sympathies may be, yer a dead duck when you violate the FOM.

Notwithstanding the above... when a Commander comes 'cross an FO who's makin' a mistake, I reckon it's the Commanders responsibility to take some time 'n discretion to tune the guy or gal up a little. That's an important character issue in this matter. Give the guy/gal a little friendly guidance 'n let the matter be.

Murrenfan's post, a few previous is a very good initial post... and the feller's nationality previously stated is correct and I can state fer the record he's... (what else? ... sigh) drivin' metal of the American manufactured tradition... rhymes with: going

BTW, ... got some new Italian snow tires fer my truck: dago through sand, dago through mud, dago through snow and when dago flat... they go wop wop wop!

Have a nice day
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Old 22nd Dec 2009, 03:48
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I agree the FOM states all this wonderful things what we may and may not do. The issue here is that this so called captain is an idiot to report things like that. If it was a flightsafety issue that affects the safety of the aircraft that he's in charge of, another story. If you want to report people about things like that, go join the police force. But fortunately my view in life, and it proves itself every day, THE WHEEL TURNS. So enjoy it while it lasts!!!!!!
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Old 22nd Dec 2009, 06:44
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It is creating distrust. You can feel it everywhere. Everybody is on their guards because you can get reported at any time by anybody. This is what is going on in this beautiful place. Every flight you meet new people. In the flight deck, and in the cabin. All you can expect is that one of them can report you. That is what it is. If it is not by a person it is by the elements that you are exposed to as a pilot that can get you. The company created that environment. Easy to manage since the crew are doing the job of making sure you have control of what's going on. Live with it. And if you're not happy you can leave Tic Toc Tic Toc it's coming coming just a matter of time.

Keep Recovering at 90+ hours a month
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Old 22nd Dec 2009, 07:43
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Murrenf and Kingo.

Thanks for the info. All we needed.
That said, the FO should also know by now that anything from the cabin cannot be taken off board. However, I will continue taking my candybar home for my audi driver who's doing 12hr shifts daily and is paid $300 per MONTH.
This company is going down the drain and it's fueled by the actions by a few in our dear managment. AAR,TCAS,ED to name a few...We've all seen it going downhill so fast last 12 months that we are now at a level I even didn't see in the military.
The biggest mistake in my career coming here.
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Old 23rd Dec 2009, 06:27
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Taking of company property OFF of the airplane is generally considered by many (most) airlines as a no-no.
The crew catering (of whatever type) is provided for your benefit whilst on duty, not after.

If a FD crew member (or, CC for that matter) continue to take catering OFF at the end of duty, these crew absolutely deserve to be warned one time only...if repeated, dismissed.

This is in many airlines written policy.

It really is that simple.


Generally, to remove catering from the airplane at the end of duty is considered theft of company property and crew should be handled accordingly.
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Old 23rd Dec 2009, 06:36
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generally considered ......many (most) airlines.....many airlines written policy.... Generally, to remove....
*yawn*

Why are you boring us with your generalisations AGAIN? So what is the EK policy? What is their policy wrt removal of bottled water on a layover? You don't know do you? That's why we laugh at you!
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