EK Hiring
Joined: Jan 1999
Posts: 297
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From: On the Beach
To all contemplating the decision between EK or QR;
I have flown for both, currently with the Dubai bunch. What can I say, other than EK is completely mismanaged and rapidly losing the plot in some fairly fundamental areas, including flight safety.
The remuneration 'deal' (not to be confused with contract) is steadily heading in the wrong direction, and terms and conditions will be eroded after you arrive, regardless of what you think you signed on joining..........
Oh yes and QR - they are worse.
I have flown for both, currently with the Dubai bunch. What can I say, other than EK is completely mismanaged and rapidly losing the plot in some fairly fundamental areas, including flight safety.
The remuneration 'deal' (not to be confused with contract) is steadily heading in the wrong direction, and terms and conditions will be eroded after you arrive, regardless of what you think you signed on joining..........
Oh yes and QR - they are worse.
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 576
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From: Planet Earth
Just another good reason not to come to the sand pit.
It's been said time and time again about the T&C's in this airline, no matter what they say at interview and how they dress the job and company up in flowers and make it look pretty, it's NOT. It's all going down hill fast, no doubt at all.
Unless you're faced with floods, riots, starvation and poverty stay where you are.
Oh yeah and another good reason. Dewa just doubled everyone's utillity bills last month, expat tax they called it
It's been said time and time again about the T&C's in this airline, no matter what they say at interview and how they dress the job and company up in flowers and make it look pretty, it's NOT. It's all going down hill fast, no doubt at all.
Unless you're faced with floods, riots, starvation and poverty stay where you are.
Oh yeah and another good reason. Dewa just doubled everyone's utillity bills last month, expat tax they called it
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 43
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From: Dubai
DEWA
Sorry, have not heard anything about a DEWA increase, where did you get that info from?
If that is the case then there is no point in being here from next year when the deductions for Emirates ill concieved cap starts.
If that is the case then there is no point in being here from next year when the deductions for Emirates ill concieved cap starts.
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 13
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From: Hotel all over the world
Dear all !
Dear all,
I absolutly have to agree with Sheikh !
Please make up your mind before joining EK...For those who have no Job at all-probably- but for those who have a job for the moment, stay there !!!
Lots of people joined EK as the market was booming and it was a GREAT place to work till 9 months ago. The managment is going ways for the moment and only God knows these ways...It has been proven over decades that what EK is doing for the moment to their pilots will go against them sooner or later..
If you want to have changes every day, more notes (FCI, FCN and so on) If you want your contract changed in a daily basis ( not for your good but for them) if you want to be treated like a monkey, work around 88-90 hours a month ( just below the threshold before overtime), get during your standby only nightshifts to India until the night becomes your day, if you want to get a warning letter for not peeing straight, forgetting your cap or loosing your ID card. If you want to stay at home in Dubai during the time that your wife gets birth to child in the country called home... ( I could continue but it would burst the size of the forum...)
I was as my colleagues proud to work for this company, but the times have changed, PLEASE, PLEASE be aware of that !!!!!!
Greetings from the sandpit ( or called Golden Cage),
neo
I absolutly have to agree with Sheikh !
Please make up your mind before joining EK...For those who have no Job at all-probably- but for those who have a job for the moment, stay there !!!
Lots of people joined EK as the market was booming and it was a GREAT place to work till 9 months ago. The managment is going ways for the moment and only God knows these ways...It has been proven over decades that what EK is doing for the moment to their pilots will go against them sooner or later..
If you want to have changes every day, more notes (FCI, FCN and so on) If you want your contract changed in a daily basis ( not for your good but for them) if you want to be treated like a monkey, work around 88-90 hours a month ( just below the threshold before overtime), get during your standby only nightshifts to India until the night becomes your day, if you want to get a warning letter for not peeing straight, forgetting your cap or loosing your ID card. If you want to stay at home in Dubai during the time that your wife gets birth to child in the country called home... ( I could continue but it would burst the size of the forum...)
I was as my colleagues proud to work for this company, but the times have changed, PLEASE, PLEASE be aware of that !!!!!!
Greetings from the sandpit ( or called Golden Cage),
neo
anyway....
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 132
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From: Standby, Resyncing other FMC...
I think that the numbers of DEC:s will be very small in EK in the future. They have changed the criteria from "widebody command" to "1500 hours on type in EK". I believe there are very few rated guys that would leave their current job for EK and now all the 747-400 guys are out.
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 133
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From: Home
Plenty have been invited, but no-one wants to come anymore. Coupled with a large percentage of us who are already here looking at other options.
It is going to present some interesting times in the very near future.
It is going to present some interesting times in the very near future.
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 345
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From: The dark side of the moon
Trickle then a pour
When the ME+EK first struck my interest, two years ago, I obviously headed to PPRUNE to get the dark side of EK (Let's be honest people only really go on here when f'd off). What I read didn't scare me off. I even went to visit friends working for EK in Dubai, all of them loved it... then!
Now I hear from every last one is "DON'T COME". I am gutted. I looked forward to the sand, sun and long hauling it. But, everything I hear now has turned me away. What annoys me the most is that if things do improve again, I can't trust that they will stay that way.
EK management you're getting your short term gain... but you're buggered when the pilot crunch comes!!!
Now I hear from every last one is "DON'T COME". I am gutted. I looked forward to the sand, sun and long hauling it. But, everything I hear now has turned me away. What annoys me the most is that if things do improve again, I can't trust that they will stay that way.
EK management you're getting your short term gain... but you're buggered when the pilot crunch comes!!!
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 133
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From: Home
Wrong Sir Donald,
People are fukced off because they moved their families to Dubai, based on what they saw and lies they were told by EK.
People are fukced off because they signed a contract and committed to a company who couldn't give a rats arse about them or their family and completely disregarded that so called contract.
And lastly, I would think that it's more like 99.9% of EK Pilots who feel this way rather than your seemingly uneducated view of 0.1%.
I welcome the view of any other EK Drivers to see what is actually closer to the truth. Perhaps it is just me who is delusional???
People are fukced off because they moved their families to Dubai, based on what they saw and lies they were told by EK.
People are fukced off because they signed a contract and committed to a company who couldn't give a rats arse about them or their family and completely disregarded that so called contract.
And lastly, I would think that it's more like 99.9% of EK Pilots who feel this way rather than your seemingly uneducated view of 0.1%.
I welcome the view of any other EK Drivers to see what is actually closer to the truth. Perhaps it is just me who is delusional???