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Old 19th Mar 2009, 13:15
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My pet peeve is Americans using the phrase "my bad" to describe an error they have made.
Thats American??!!

I see that phrase so often now, and I thought it was coming from someplace back of beyond where they only have a fingerhold on the English language....

Oh.
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Old 20th Mar 2009, 04:47
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You're correct. Between the Indians and the Americans, I'm 'not knowing' which culture is the biggest blight on the English language.

Since when did a descriptive term, in this case 'bad', become a noun?

It's even more irritating than 'funner' (as in 'more fun') and 'winningest' (as in most successful').

Maybe that's progress, just not as we know it.

Keep 'doing the needful'.

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Old 20th Mar 2009, 13:10
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Good Day to you too...

The thread starer as well as the Iranian ATC guy in my humble opinion both missed the whole piont. The pilot was trying to be friendly and polite that's all. Only to be met by a rude controller who is self centered on the fact that he is not an Arab nor a Muslim. And a fellow pilot whom trying to be nice just gets on his nerves.

I live in a certain Arab country in the Middle East where the population are Muslims and Christians but guess what, we all greet each other with Salam Alikom. And we all say Inshalla. No one is offended.

But then again it may be the pilot's responsibility to check the cultural roots and different ethnic groups and divisions of every FIR he over flies before trying to greet them just in case a bouncy ATC gets his intial call.

Last edited by msr001; 22nd Mar 2009 at 19:55. Reason: Just to make clear the the pilot's responsibility part is actually a joke!!
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Old 21st Mar 2009, 06:42
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Kamelf - Insha'Allah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Grow up and learn to respect others' religious beliefs.
Sorry, but lecturing and patronizing will never help increase anyone's respect, and in fact serve to decrease it. Coming from someone in Dubai, it's comical.
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Old 21st Mar 2009, 07:53
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Originally Posted by nolimitholdem
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Kamelf - Insha'Allah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Grow up and learn to respect others' religious beliefs.
Sorry, but lecturing and patronizing will never help increase anyone's respect, and in fact serve to decrease it. Coming from someone in Dubai, it's comical.
Why is it comical? If asking someone to respect a religion is lecturing for you then so be it. UAE, Iran and most of the countries in the Gulf region are Islamic and if you are traveling here, you should respect the religion -- SIMPLE! Not everyone in Dubai is drinking up or simply ignorant like you are! Also, words like "Inshallah" or "Mashallah" are very common here, so if you have no idea what you are talking about then please shut up and not make a fool out of yourself. What you said was more comical than anything else.
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Old 21st Mar 2009, 07:55
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Anyway...Happy Norouz(new year) to all the Iranian people today!
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Old 21st Mar 2009, 08:10
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msr001,
Well said till the part "pilot's responsibility" .
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Old 21st Mar 2009, 11:32
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My Bad

That's funny...I wonder if ebonics will find its way into standard RT phraseology.

ATC "XYZ9876, sqawk/ident, where u at homeee?"
Bro-Air "Whazzaaaaaaaaaaap, chillin at three faive ohhhh ma N!, we gott dis bitch trimmmmed!"
ATC "sloh yo ass down brutha, we be crazier than a mo-fo down heeah"
Bro-Air "why you always be on a brutha just cos he crusin n doin his thing, I oughta come round yo house n get all up in yo face"
ATC "Bring it awn beeatch"

It could happen!

Hustle On
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Old 21st Mar 2009, 16:22
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Grow up and learn to respect others' religious beliefs
When I was growing up my father told me to better stop believe in fairy tales.
Now I have to "respect" the guys who didn't manage to do that?
The ones who show their respect by calling me an unworthy infidel?
Sorry, but the best they can ask for is me tolerating it because I live here.
That generally goes for every other group who still believe in talking snakes and all the crap they been fed in childhood.

"religion is myth-information"

Is there a any place on this planet where people with a free mind can live without being patronized by any cults or sects?
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Old 21st Mar 2009, 16:26
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Is there a any place on this planet where people with a free mind can live without be

hmmm....Antartica comes to mind.

peace
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Old 21st Mar 2009, 19:40
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Muttley, you understood perfectly, thanks.

Grow up and learn to respect others' religious beliefs.
If asking someone to respect a religion is lecturing for you then so be it.
OMDB-pilot , if the first of your quotes is your idea of "asking", then it goes a long way to explaining why there is zero respect. Tolerated....barely. Respect? Never. THAT has to be earned, and shrill admonitions aren't the way to get it. It also has to be returned for it to last. But I don't expect you or most others in this region of the world to EVER understand that. Between the culture of entitlement that always accompanies wealth not earned, and the sheer regressiveness of so much of the mindset, no one is holding their breath waiting for change.

Peace in the Middle East, y'all.
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Old 21st Mar 2009, 21:51
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Originally Posted by Muttley Crew
I got what you meant even if the 22yo cadets find it difficult, NoLimit. A pretty simple message:

"That" attitude + Demand for Respect = Comical...

They will just never get it, though, because the attitude is simply ingrained too deeply. It's cultural.
Its funny how you say I am showing attitude, while your the one with attitude and disrespect. Its okay, this is how your mindset is and I am not going to spoon feed you manners. It shows your parents failed teaching you manners while you were growing up! How shameless can you be. Unfortunately, you grew up in a culture-less and religion-less environment, so I have full sympathy with you.

BTW, you got your equation wrong.

Your Attitude + Disrespect for others' religious beliefs = Comical


Originally Posted by Schibulsky
"religion is myth-information"
You simply can't go teaching Atheism with that statement itself. See its OK if you are an Atheist. Its your belief and I respect that. Similarly, others on this planet have different beliefs and you should learn to respect them as well. Simple. You don't have to force your beliefs on others, just learn to appreciate the land where you live. That's all.

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it goes a long way to explaining why there is zero respect. Tolerated....barely. Respect? Never. THAT has to be earned, and shrill admonitions aren't the way to get it. It also has to be returned for it to last. But I don't expect you or most others in this region of the world to EVER understand that. Between the culture of entitlement that always accompanies wealth not earned, and the sheer regressiveness of so much of the mindset, no one is holding their breath waiting for change.
I am sorry but I disagree with your understanding. Islam is one of the fastest growing religions, so its obviously respected by a huge population on this planet. If you seriously believe Muslims don't respect other religions then it's obvious you've been brainwashed or clearly have no understanding of the religion. There is a reason why you are a Gulf resident. If Muslims hated other religions, then you would've been mowing your lawn in states and not being chauffeured to your villa from airport! It shows you have no idea what religious and cultural values mean. Also, its pretty apparent that your jealous of the wealth (whatever that remains in this time of recession) in this region. The day you lose your selfish attitude and start respecting others for their religious and cultural beliefs, you will be a happier person. Try it for a day!




PEACE!
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Old 21st Mar 2009, 21:59
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^^ HAHA!
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Old 22nd Mar 2009, 09:48
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Hahahahahaha!
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Old 22nd Mar 2009, 13:47
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@OMDB-PiLoT

Atheism is the absence of belief in the existence of deities.
So there is no belief that I could force on others!
It's anyway not my mission to force anything on anybody...please just leave me alone with that hocus pocus...thanks...end of discussion from my side
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Old 22nd Mar 2009, 18:22
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"Religion is just people going to war over who has the best imaginary friend"

No disrespect meant.... Lets move on
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Old 22nd Mar 2009, 20:13
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What the...?

Reading through this thread I fail to see how did it turn (as a lot of other threads in the Middle East forum) to disscusing and as usual misinterpreting Islam.
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Old 23rd Mar 2009, 09:35
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Originally Posted by Schibulsky
Atheism is the absence of belief in the existence of deities.
So there is no belief that I could force on others!
Your not believing in the existence of deities is still a belief in itself! You don't have to force it on others anyway, just keep it to yourself and let others believe in whatever they like. IMHO to go around mocking others' beliefs is simply childish. End of discussion from my side as well
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Old 23rd Mar 2009, 10:36
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Tried to locate Inshallah on ATC standard phraseology.

Guess What Not there!!
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