QR rules & regulation
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"WE SHOULD CONFRONT MGNT"
Now I see, you must be new in this joint. Welcome on board my friend. Let us know when the honeymoon period is over so we can have a descent discussion!
Now I see, you must be new in this joint. Welcome on board my friend. Let us know when the honeymoon period is over so we can have a descent discussion!
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ST im sure youve been here when Doha and Qr must have been a living hell, airline with growing pains,a high percentage of crew from countrys that there culture is too roll over to thier superiors.I havent been here too long as well and believe me thier is no honey moon period, human resourses is diabolic,the technical building fleet secretary office looks like the stock market, or a newspaper , its so disorganized. But compared to other carriers many of us have worked for its has its positive, pay is ontime and from day one,standard housing, at least on the A320 the crews are great,airplanes with minimal mels. You would be surprised the things you see in the expat contract world.
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Management knows that A320 make money for the airline, but why can't they consider giving us something for those high duty hours. We work the most, but get pay the least. 
Oh well, Atleast we have some new aircraft coming.
Oh well, Atleast we have some new aircraft coming.
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SkyA320:
In the old GOOD time of Qatar airways we used to have A-320 "special allowance":1500QR/month.(and at that time believe me the Roster was not like Sh.. like today, although we were flying easily 75h/month...)!
Thats the paradox of Q.R: today: sh.. &tiring&high duty time roster but NO special allowance anymore.
What to do...What to do...
In the old GOOD time of Qatar airways we used to have A-320 "special allowance":1500QR/month.(and at that time believe me the Roster was not like Sh.. like today, although we were flying easily 75h/month...)!
Thats the paradox of Q.R: today: sh.. &tiring&high duty time roster but NO special allowance anymore.
What to do...What to do...
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Relocating to DOHA
Sorry for deviating from the topic a little bit, but it is related to the topic heading.
Was wondering if anyone would like to share some information with me in relation to moving to DOHA.
- When and who will organise the Visa for my Wife, if she wished to relocate with myself, together to Doha on same date?
- Would I be expecting to be placed into company accomadation upon arrival to Doha, or say at least a week later.
-Not sure on accom. situation, but are there 3 or 4 bedroom Villas still available and offered to crew, if so do we have the opportunity to look at a few before deciding which one we would like. Any suggestions on which compund/area is most favourable?
- When they state the accom. are fully furnishd, to what extent is it? what else would we need to bring that could be missing thats important (ie:Hair dryer, DVD player, microwave oven etc...)
- How intense is the training likely to be for a NTR AB course?
- Anything to lookout for in advance? other than the norms posted before?
- How co-operative is HR department, on joining day? Any advice before tredding on peoples toes and starting off on a wrong note?.
Would love to ask more questions but i dont think its totally appropriate to write them all here. But if a current employer or a new joiner would like to share their experience, I would be most greatful and would preferably PM them.
Cheers!!
Was wondering if anyone would like to share some information with me in relation to moving to DOHA.
- When and who will organise the Visa for my Wife, if she wished to relocate with myself, together to Doha on same date?
- Would I be expecting to be placed into company accomadation upon arrival to Doha, or say at least a week later.
-Not sure on accom. situation, but are there 3 or 4 bedroom Villas still available and offered to crew, if so do we have the opportunity to look at a few before deciding which one we would like. Any suggestions on which compund/area is most favourable?
- When they state the accom. are fully furnishd, to what extent is it? what else would we need to bring that could be missing thats important (ie:Hair dryer, DVD player, microwave oven etc...)
- How intense is the training likely to be for a NTR AB course?
- Anything to lookout for in advance? other than the norms posted before?
- How co-operative is HR department, on joining day? Any advice before tredding on peoples toes and starting off on a wrong note?.
Would love to ask more questions but i dont think its totally appropriate to write them all here. But if a current employer or a new joiner would like to share their experience, I would be most greatful and would preferably PM them.
Cheers!!
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Your questions are well thought over and balanced. send me a pm with your full list and Ill reply in all honesty.
If you want to post them here later to serve the community its up to you.
SHOOT!
If you want to post them here later to serve the community its up to you.
SHOOT!
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One more to the list: « Deepe » as a nickname and that is what it’s written on her badge name. UK-Indian lady with a strong British accent a real peace of ….
CSD.
I used to be F1 and when R1, I used to arrange things with the flight deck crew, and when I know that the CSD is a bastard, with the flight deck crew we used a trick : Ding Dong…a call from the deck, and we send the CSD to the back for X reason. During that time..i prepare what they want and give them.
CSD.
I used to be F1 and when R1, I used to arrange things with the flight deck crew, and when I know that the CSD is a bastard, with the flight deck crew we used a trick : Ding Dong…a call from the deck, and we send the CSD to the back for X reason. During that time..i prepare what they want and give them.
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Big Neon:You should be thankfull to MR P.M for all his FALSE promises and LIES regarding improvement of 320 roster!
On the other hand do we got any support from our 320CP...i doubt!!
Believe me you are not the only one exhausted on 320...!
On the other hand do we got any support from our 320CP...i doubt!!
Believe me you are not the only one exhausted on 320...!
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A 320
Look a pilots from A320 they all look like ZOMBIES they look sick man .
No life on A320 ,no human roster,no CP on A320 , No destination ,no days off ( 2 days its just to recover ) ,no salary on A320 ( 160 h duty and 72 h block time) A320 fleet is just a low 1 star fleet in QR .
P.M is major factor for that but also a people who seat in office and dont do anything are to be blamed for situation. I wonder when people start getting serious sick and jumpships will they sleep in peace . BRAVO QR
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Lets make a move from A320 somwhere where they respect human life
There is a rumor that HELL is empty this days "all devils are in ROSTERING management office" this days !
No life on A320 ,no human roster,no CP on A320 , No destination ,no days off ( 2 days its just to recover ) ,no salary on A320 ( 160 h duty and 72 h block time) A320 fleet is just a low 1 star fleet in QR .
P.M is major factor for that but also a people who seat in office and dont do anything are to be blamed for situation. I wonder when people start getting serious sick and jumpships will they sleep in peace . BRAVO QR
Options options options
Lets make a move from A320 somwhere where they respect human life
There is a rumor that HELL is empty this days "all devils are in ROSTERING management office" this days !
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lol lol i like the one with " there is no devil in hell " you are right .
I have friend on A320 well lets say i had friend .Since he got upgraded on A320 i dont see him any more . after 2 months i call him up and asked :are you angre at me or what ?
Answer was " this roster people make me work like donky and earn like cleaner i come at morning and leave house at night ,my wife want a devorce, my kids look at me as stranger ,i have no life and CP will not do anything about it .
By the end he told me : now i just wait for my 500 PIC and i start searching for a new airline . He also stated : i will leave fast and i dont plan to resign. My friend is 7 y in QR he is good skipper and this P.M is making people like him to jumpsheap or resign.
Where is Mr. big boss send security and escort him as he did with Chriss ?
I have friend on A320 well lets say i had friend .Since he got upgraded on A320 i dont see him any more . after 2 months i call him up and asked :are you angre at me or what ?
Answer was " this roster people make me work like donky and earn like cleaner i come at morning and leave house at night ,my wife want a devorce, my kids look at me as stranger ,i have no life and CP will not do anything about it .
By the end he told me : now i just wait for my 500 PIC and i start searching for a new airline . He also stated : i will leave fast and i dont plan to resign. My friend is 7 y in QR he is good skipper and this P.M is making people like him to jumpsheap or resign.
Where is Mr. big boss send security and escort him as he did with Chriss ?
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I would love to ask our CP320
to fly my roster for one week..just one week....and then ask him "H.F..what do you think about such a roster...?"
Maybe .then.. maybe.. we might get some support and help...
to fly my roster for one week..just one week....and then ask him "H.F..what do you think about such a roster...?"Maybe .then.. maybe.. we might get some support and help...
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Ladies,
I have said this before and I will say it again. In stead of putting your precious energy in bitching and moaning on public fora like this one, why dont you start writing ASRs again together with some nice PVRs aimed straight for the office?
The A320 roster is not human anymore and all lousy practices from the past submerged again in April because they where in deep s#$T in the A320 fleet!
Some people reacted, others did not. But there is no reason why you should accept to fly like this!
The CP A320 must be one of the most useless pieces of work ever seen in this business and in all honesty I do not understand our CEO anymore. On one hand he fires everybody who even makes a minor mistake and yet this worthless a$$ can continue ruining and demoralising the biggest fleet in the airline!
I have said this before and I will say it again. In stead of putting your precious energy in bitching and moaning on public fora like this one, why dont you start writing ASRs again together with some nice PVRs aimed straight for the office?
The A320 roster is not human anymore and all lousy practices from the past submerged again in April because they where in deep s#$T in the A320 fleet!
Some people reacted, others did not. But there is no reason why you should accept to fly like this!
The CP A320 must be one of the most useless pieces of work ever seen in this business and in all honesty I do not understand our CEO anymore. On one hand he fires everybody who even makes a minor mistake and yet this worthless a$$ can continue ruining and demoralising the biggest fleet in the airline!
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Shneider,you seems to be a little bit ..naive..,indeed we ALL known why H.F. became C.P.320...isn't it..?
I have the feeling (but i might be wrong)that he is well "protected".
isn't it..?I have the feeling (but i might be wrong)that he is well "protected".
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Which boss wouldn't protect his yes man...? Of course he's protected by the powers that be...
And who cares about the sacrificial lambs as long as the work gets done...
And who cares about the sacrificial lambs as long as the work gets done...
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I just got a look at my May roster (320), its out of this world its inhuman it made me tired just by looking at it. Almost everything is double sector a lot of flying at night back in the morning and flying at night again. Of all the rosters Ive had this is the worst one, its just ridiculous really. I was thinking about going to talk to the chief pilot but after reading everything about the CP here, it seems its just going to be a waste of time. Well I think were not going to be in QR for long.
This is going from bad to WORST !!!!!
This is going from bad to WORST !!!!!
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330 TREs moved to 777
I feel sad for you guys in the 320, but you have to be united and act simultaneously like we did on the 330.
Even as TREs on the 330 we get more benefits than the 320 TREs, we took over their sim slots for the last 6 months, then moved up to the 777 this month, while the 320 TREs are stuck and " promised " -since last year- to get the 330/320 MFF
I guess only 1 TRE got the MFF so far, it is a nice banana to wave it in front of the monkey to keep dancing !!
Like you said guys.... as long as the work is done, nobody cares about your well being.
320 fleet was and will stay the black sheep of the family for no obvious reasons.
Even as TREs on the 330 we get more benefits than the 320 TREs, we took over their sim slots for the last 6 months, then moved up to the 777 this month, while the 320 TREs are stuck and " promised " -since last year- to get the 330/320 MFF
I guess only 1 TRE got the MFF so far, it is a nice banana to wave it in front of the monkey to keep dancing !!
Like you said guys.... as long as the work is done, nobody cares about your well being.
320 fleet was and will stay the black sheep of the family for no obvious reasons.
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