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6 772's are similarly grounded but for parts.
2 773's for parts too.
11 320/330's haven't see flight in over 12 weeks.
You do the math.
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A Continued Saga...
Well, the parking of aircraft for parts is nothing new. I flew for SV and was on the initial course for the 777s in 97. Within the first 2 months, we had several aircraft being dispatched with brakes inoperative. Interestingly, we didn't have 'the special tool' to allow for us not having to go through the performance related decrements. So, we had to calculate the geardown penalties. Not long after, new aircraft arrived and were subsequently parked in the dirt at the south...scavenged for parts. It doesn't sound like much has changed in the 20 years since.
Four habibis in the pointy end.
Tail Strike
This one happened back in December. Has there been another?
Incident: Saudia B773 at Jeddah on Dec 9th 2017, tail strike indication
Incident: Saudia B773 at Jeddah on Dec 9th 2017, tail strike indication
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Old Boeing - yes additional to the above one plus a few others in 2017 and many other incidents... wheels falling off A330's... the list goes on. Yes SG and just watch the insurance premium climb as the expats depart and safety decreases. 
Happy Landings
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In the previous tailstrike an expat was equally involved...
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a few hundred meters away...the desert....is waiting for them!!
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It appears that our previously discussed "Captain" has now placed "Doctor" in front of his name and convinced the company that this should be shown in the crew list 
I will be the first to congratulate him on his new doctorate, from Harvard, I believe.
I will be the first to congratulate him on his new doctorate, from Harvard, I believe.
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Romasik - What Chocks is talking about is a third time in which The Manufacturer has called back the aircraft to Land (!)in the previous years, after an incident unreported. An extremely serious trend of denial in this company and I'm not talking about the huge river to it's West.
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Do you think he might be interested in providing a consultation?
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Waz up folks! I’m reading your replies here and I understand that SV is going to stop dealing with expats , isn’t it?
I have lots of questions and no answers. Is anyone here who working for any Saudi carrier ?
What kind of license do they need ?just icao, faa or easa is preferable ? Can’t find it on web site.
Is it possible now to get job as FO 320 there, I mean any Saudi carrier not only SV?
What about flynas and Flyadeal ?
I need your recommendations my friends😢
I have lots of questions and no answers. Is anyone here who working for any Saudi carrier ?
What kind of license do they need ?just icao, faa or easa is preferable ? Can’t find it on web site.
Is it possible now to get job as FO 320 there, I mean any Saudi carrier not only SV?
What about flynas and Flyadeal ?
I need your recommendations my friends😢
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@EartoEar,
Following recent changes in government policy, expats are being actively encouraged to leave the Kingdom. The same government policy has mandated Saudisation. This means that nearly all expats will be replaced eventually. The governments intention is that the sooner this can be achieved, the better.
Their is also a government sponsored Flight Deck Cadet training program, which is turning out thousands of Saudi National First Officers as time goes by. Realisticly speaking, these cadets will fill the great majority of future First Officer vacancies with the Saudi based airlines.
Saudia, the national carrier, now has a policy of NOT recruiting ANY expat First Officers & ALL expat Flight Deck Crew recruitment stopped over a year ago. The existing expat First Officers, who were hired on the expectation of upgrades in due course, based on seniority, have recently been told that they will NEVER be upgraded. Furthermore,mNO expat First Officer will be allowed to be employed beyond a maximum age of 60 years. Many senior, older, expat First Officers are having their employment contracts terminated, in line with the above mentioned government policy. In reality ALL expat First Officers will be gone from the national airline in the near future, probably by 2020 at the latest, with expat Captains expected to follow soon after. The maximum tenure for expat Captains will not likely be longer than 2023-2025.
As far as I know FlyNas is NOT recruiting expat First Officers.
However, FlyAdeal may be actively recruiting.
Following recent changes in government policy, expats are being actively encouraged to leave the Kingdom. The same government policy has mandated Saudisation. This means that nearly all expats will be replaced eventually. The governments intention is that the sooner this can be achieved, the better.
Their is also a government sponsored Flight Deck Cadet training program, which is turning out thousands of Saudi National First Officers as time goes by. Realisticly speaking, these cadets will fill the great majority of future First Officer vacancies with the Saudi based airlines.
Saudia, the national carrier, now has a policy of NOT recruiting ANY expat First Officers & ALL expat Flight Deck Crew recruitment stopped over a year ago. The existing expat First Officers, who were hired on the expectation of upgrades in due course, based on seniority, have recently been told that they will NEVER be upgraded. Furthermore,mNO expat First Officer will be allowed to be employed beyond a maximum age of 60 years. Many senior, older, expat First Officers are having their employment contracts terminated, in line with the above mentioned government policy. In reality ALL expat First Officers will be gone from the national airline in the near future, probably by 2020 at the latest, with expat Captains expected to follow soon after. The maximum tenure for expat Captains will not likely be longer than 2023-2025.
As far as I know FlyNas is NOT recruiting expat First Officers.
However, FlyAdeal may be actively recruiting.
it’s so sad 😞
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Hello Gents,
I recently flew with a Senior SV Captain that was positioning with us.
He was mentioning that there is a plan to restart the 777-200s after extensive D checks and that also the 747-8 freighters, along with the 4 777F, should come back on line after some setbacks they had with one of the wet lease operators. The way I understand it is that they might reopen (in the near future and for a limited period of time) the recruitment of expat pilots to man the new additions to the fleet so at the end of the day all hopes are not gone yet....
I recently flew with a Senior SV Captain that was positioning with us.
He was mentioning that there is a plan to restart the 777-200s after extensive D checks and that also the 747-8 freighters, along with the 4 777F, should come back on line after some setbacks they had with one of the wet lease operators. The way I understand it is that they might reopen (in the near future and for a limited period of time) the recruitment of expat pilots to man the new additions to the fleet so at the end of the day all hopes are not gone yet....
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There is no flying for the existing crew... why’d they need additional?
But they seem to be hell bent upon not giving over time. So they would rather hire more pilots and keep them below 78 credit
In their opinion, this is cheaper than to pay overtime...
But they seem to be hell bent upon not giving over time. So they would rather hire more pilots and keep them below 78 credit
In their opinion, this is cheaper than to pay overtime...
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Hello Gents,
I recently flew with a Senior SV Captain that was positioning with us.
He was mentioning that there is a plan to restart the 777-200s after extensive D checks and that also the 747-8 freighters, along with the 4 777F, should come back on line after some setbacks they had with one of the wet lease operators. The way I understand it is that they might reopen (in the near future and for a limited period of time) the recruitment of expat pilots to man the new additions to the fleet so at the end of the day all hopes are not gone yet....
I recently flew with a Senior SV Captain that was positioning with us.
He was mentioning that there is a plan to restart the 777-200s after extensive D checks and that also the 747-8 freighters, along with the 4 777F, should come back on line after some setbacks they had with one of the wet lease operators. The way I understand it is that they might reopen (in the near future and for a limited period of time) the recruitment of expat pilots to man the new additions to the fleet so at the end of the day all hopes are not gone yet....
The senior SV Captain you spoke to is clearly either deluded, misinformed or basically talking crap.
The B747-8F’s are mandated back into service by higher authority than the SV management. The logic being that it’s better to recoup some of the expense of purchase by flying them for Saudia Cargo, rather than pay out for an ACMI operator to fly the cargo. The same is true for the B777F’s. However, the reintroduction of these aircraft back into service will definitely NOT require ANY recruitment of expat Flight Deck Crew. The required crews are easily provided for within the existing work force. Whoever told you that is either talking out of the back of his head or his ass, most likely the latter.
It’s very unlikely that Saudia will be employing expat Flight Deck Crew anytime in the near future. They have more than sufficient Saudi National Flight Deck Crew to man the current operation. The only thing that might change this is when the airline moves to the new Jeddah Airport Terminal. That should create the opportunity for much for better optimisation of aircraft, leading to the opportunity for greater utilization. This may lead to more flights, both in terms of increased frequency & possibly some new destinations. It’s also a certainty, that should this opportunity occur, it will definitely NOT have been thought of in advance, or planned for, by the very inept and incompetent Saudi Flight Operations Management, most of whom could find their ass with both hands if they were already sitting on the crapper. This lack of foresight & advanced planning, which is de rigeur within Flight Operations management, might lead to a short term shortage of Flight Deck Crew.
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