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Old 6th Sep 2017, 03:47
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well, my former employer was by no means a major world player, but for flight deck, we had upgraded suite, breakfast (when applicable), and one uniform to laundry...so I guess it depends on what your carrier is able to negotiate..
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As you explained earlier....
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Old 8th Sep 2017, 16:16
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Where you a Pilot in a previous life, you're almost coming over as condescending.....
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Old 11th Sep 2017, 18:01
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I'm a union man born and bred, so was my Father and his before him. He was General Secretary for the TAGWU.
In that case try not coming over as a know it all......
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Old 20th Sep 2017, 07:44
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I hope Saudia can learn from the current Ryanair chaos. You can upset your crew to a certain extent but if you push it beyond that certain point you're going to get a high turnover of Pilots. An efficient training system seems to allow for a 10% annual turnover but once you hit 15%+ then you're grounding large numbers of flights. Saudia couldn't even manage a 10% turnover.

Saudia have large numbers of cadets in the system to fill slots left by people leaving but I don't think even that'll work. The Saudi cadets are highly qualified individuals who have high expectations, when they realize that Saudia will only disappoint it is unlikely they will stick around.
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Old 14th Oct 2017, 04:21
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Guess what the latest scoop is....
they are forcing people to move to Riyadh base !
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Old 16th Oct 2017, 13:49
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Well, by what I hear they have already forced over 100 pilots to Riyadh.
With a one liner email.
'You are posted to RUH WEF 1st Nov'
This place is a joke. Time to runnnnn !!
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Old 16th Oct 2017, 16:10
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Have they removed the 10 days off for RUH base?
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Old 16th Oct 2017, 17:12
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Guess they are planning to but Not yet.
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Old 16th Oct 2017, 21:21
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Originally Posted by mutt
Have they removed the 10 days off for RUH base?
How on earth do they plan to attract pilots to RUH if they withdraw the 10 off?
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Old 17th Oct 2017, 01:00
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Originally Posted by Top gun pilot 797
How on earth do they plan to attract pilots to RUH if they withdraw the 10 off?
They have 200 empty apartments waiting for the expats from JED to join the RUH base. My guess is that all contract renewals will be to the RUH base.
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Old 17th Oct 2017, 07:27
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They are not planning to remove the 20/10 anytime soon. This " lifestyle " has been offered to Saudis as well for 2018.
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 02:05
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Thats the way to chop off all the overtime and extra credit hrs due to D/H. 65-80 max credit is what we are looking at on 77.
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 03:57
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Originally Posted by fireball_23
They are not planning to remove the 20/10 anytime soon. This " lifestyle " has been offered to Saudis as well for 2018.
I'm quite certain not a single saudi has been offered the 20/10 as yet. Which negates the whole purpose of offering it to expats.
If an expat in he middle of his contract is offered RUH base why would he take it if he doesn't get 20/10. It's quite ridiculous really.
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 07:47
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@Top Gun : It has been offered to Saudis in RUH. Half of them are taking the 20/10 in January.
@Flyboy : You're correct.
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Old 18th Oct 2017, 10:20
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The A330 CA Lines for NOV do not have 10 days off in a row.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 03:46
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Originally Posted by fireball_23
@Top Gun : It has been offered to Saudis in RUH. Half of them are taking the 20/10 in January.
@Flyboy : You're correct.
Are you indicating at the Saudis who are originally residents of Riyadh. Are these he ones who have been offered 20/10 in Riyadh?
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 05:42
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Bid sheet information page, point #8 says - "(10/20) Lifestyle to be bid by non Saudi only".

320 has these lines still.

Very little confirmation on how many people are actually being forced to move to RUH. Only a small handful will confirm they have received an email.

Looks like it is happening in reverse seniority order.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 05:45
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Originally Posted by mutt
The A330 CA Lines for NOV do not have 10 days off in a row.
To be fair, it is brand new base this November, there are a grand total of 9 lines in RUH for 330.
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Old 19th Oct 2017, 07:44
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Top Gun : You're right, I should have been more precise. I've only heard about Saudis in Riyadh. I don't know about Jeddah !
Metro : Yes, it says for non Saudi only, but this is the old bulletin. Saudi Capt / FO in Riyadh have been offered the choice when bidding for next year Vacations. Either 20/10 or 30 days vacations.

For the Riyadh base joiners, and until the end of 2017, the lines will be as followed : 20/10 with 5 consecutive days off and 5 reserve days; or on a 25/5 basis. This is because the new joiners had their vacations in 2017, while the ones who joined Ruh base in March were not untitled for it.
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