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Was chattin to the RUH station manager few days back, asked him bout the saudi venture, his words.. 'all domestic flights are subsidised by the government, pax pay an average of $40 and the government coughs up the rest. Currently the government has a cap price on domestic flights. Unless they remove that therz no money to be had in it'
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It looks like Gulf Air was identified as a customer who converted/ordered 1 A320 and 3 A321's in Airbus's October order update. I'll try and find a second source to confirm whether its a new order or a suspected outstanding A330 value conversion.
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Sounds about right, buba. A few years ago I bought a full-fare, refundable/changable round-trip ticket for travel on Saudi Arabian Airlines between Dammam and Riyadh-- cost: 150 Saudi Riyals/ 15 Bahraini Dinars = $40 USD.
I still can't believe that Sama got into this market.
I still can't believe that Sama got into this market.
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It looks like Gulf Air was identified as a customer who converted/ordered 1 A320 and 3 A321's in Airbus's October order update. I'll try and find a second source to confirm whether its a new order or a suspected outstanding A330 value conversion.
Now some news from our neighbours....
Etihad Airways and Air France-KLM have signed a historic agreement to codeshare on flights across the airlines’ networks, the first phase of a much larger strategic partnership which commences on 28th of current month
Etihad partners with Air France - Khaleej Times
For those of you wanting to escape, this is not good news. AF-KLM and AB are heavy on crews with AB already sending their cadets to EY. AF-KLM have actively been looking for secondments for their excess crews with other airlines. You do the math.
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After many months of doing nothing, the Parliaments verdict is out. Gulf Air stays afloat!
Gulf Daily News » Local News » GULF AIR 'YES'
But: "Shura Council members and MPs also agreed to hold a meeting.
They stressed that their final approval of aid package would depend on the ways the government would spend the money..."
Gulf Daily News » Local News » GULF AIR 'YES'
But: "Shura Council members and MPs also agreed to hold a meeting.
They stressed that their final approval of aid package would depend on the ways the government would spend the money..."
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Latest Iran schedule. Let's see if this holds up: Gulf Air Postpones Iran Service Resumption till Nov 2012 | Airline Route – Worldwide Airline Route Updates
Source:airlineroute.net
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Gulf Air is very likely to have cancelled 10 out of the original 20 A333 order. The cancellation was under a 'undisclosed customer' going back to 2010. So that leaves us with 10 A333 on order. Minus the rumored 4 that were converted to 6 x A321's. And that laves us with 6 A333's still on order. Now this October Gulf Air updated their order book to + 1 A320 and 3 A321's on the Airbus website.
I'm guessing those last A333's will be converted in due time as well to A320 family.
I'm guessing those last A333's will be converted in due time as well to A320 family.
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John21,
Your math sounds correct but you don't really need to do this exercise. According to SM's words in the last meeting, the preferred plan for the company is a size more or less close to with what is today, although different fleet structure. I believe he went on saying that they're thinking for circa 6 A330s and the rest being a mixture of A320s/21s. But total being about what it is as we speak. As simple as that.
Having said all that, this is upper management's wish and preference. Not necessarily the final outcome.
Your math sounds correct but you don't really need to do this exercise. According to SM's words in the last meeting, the preferred plan for the company is a size more or less close to with what is today, although different fleet structure. I believe he went on saying that they're thinking for circa 6 A330s and the rest being a mixture of A320s/21s. But total being about what it is as we speak. As simple as that.
Having said all that, this is upper management's wish and preference. Not necessarily the final outcome.
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Thats absolutely correct but if gives a small insight in what to expect in terms of nbr of A320 family arriving (related to the 333 order) between now and infinity. Other than that I was just bored when I found the info. 
We'll see what happens now parliament gave the nod and Gulf Air needs to come up with a spending/future plan.
We'll see what happens now parliament gave the nod and Gulf Air needs to come up with a spending/future plan.
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"After restructuring, the airline must increase Bahrainisation to 76pc and reduce expatriate staff to around 33pc."
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No need for a second source on that one, it's obvious. Thinking small.
Thinking small again. It had been nice knowing you all...
Thinking small, smaller, smallest! I rest my case.
While our neighbours are expanding and forging alliances , Gulf Air commits commercial suicide.
The big 3 will be happy to scoop up the last pieces of business (and crews) that Gulf Air will leave in its wake. I cannot help to think these are deliberate actions to bring GF to a halt. As it is certainly not a plan to salvage the sinking ship.
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They don't even think this one through. Limiting the Redundancy Package to Nationals means losing the people they prefer to focus on. The leftovers will be expat heavy. Offer the deal to all & you will see every single expat leaving with a smile. Decisive execution of any plan is something the GF Management have never been known for. An end to the uncertainty must be a priority.
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@Landflap to put it simply unfortunately the "voluntary" redundancy plan for expats in most any country around the world is..here's you're notice period indemnity or whatever payout and "thanks for your services"....bye bye
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Very sad news for us all. Wishing everyone the best of luck.
On another note nice to see that after the bomb shell announcement in the GDN that our esteemed CEO, COO & the other C***s have seen fit to address the shocked employees?! I guess their are just running around checking that they are not in the 1800 jobs to be lost!
It's the final nail in the GF coffin & all thanks to the the myriad of thieves that have been leeching of it all these years. Something had to give.
The sad thing is that the thieving managers will land on their feet in some other sweet job whilst people who worked hard & showed true loyalty for years will be left scambling for a paycheck to feed & clothe their families.
On another note nice to see that after the bomb shell announcement in the GDN that our esteemed CEO, COO & the other C***s have seen fit to address the shocked employees?! I guess their are just running around checking that they are not in the 1800 jobs to be lost!
It's the final nail in the GF coffin & all thanks to the the myriad of thieves that have been leeching of it all these years. Something had to give.
The sad thing is that the thieving managers will land on their feet in some other sweet job whilst people who worked hard & showed true loyalty for years will be left scambling for a paycheck to feed & clothe their families.