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Old 22nd Jan 2009, 19:23
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didn't anyone tell them that forcing religious ways upon others is rude?
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Old 22nd Jan 2009, 19:40
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Old 22nd Jan 2009, 21:43
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As written above, they will study the proposal and this is not the first time they try to ban it. It will take time anyway.

This is an old subject between GF and the Parliament...

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Old 22nd Jan 2009, 22:27
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Hate to say it

First engineering, now alcohol....taking my F class loyalty elswhere has left me with no doubts I pulled stumps at the right time with GF. It is amazing the airline is already lagging in terms of soft and hard product, yet they will still disregard the hard business facts and further deteriorate their standing.

There was a brief period when the new F and J seats, In Flight Chef and menus, with new lounge happened that really buoyed me along with the sanity of BAH as a hub. That has all eroded now and GF is akin to a leper..everything is slowly falling away. I should have realised when the water feature stopped working in the lounge and it was never fixed and turned all cloudy that it was a divine sign of things to come..and two years later it was indeed a pertinant sign.

I will still say Good Luck to GF and really hope they make it - it just seems unlikely. Correct me if I'm wrong, however, the only real reason GF still operates is the fact it employs so many locals that it would be catastrophic for the Kingdom should they all lose their jobs from a GF collapse.

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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 07:27
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What really ticks me off is the lack of public opposition to these ridiculous proposals.

MP Shaikh Mohammed Khalid Mohammed says the constitution states that Bahrain's religion is Islam.

If you look at Bahrain's constitution under Chapter 1 [Article 2], it clearly states that "Islam Sharia is a principle source for legislation".

It doesn't say that Islam is THE EXCLUSIVE source
It doesn't say that Islam is THE SOLE source
It doesn't say that Islam is THE ONLY source

He goes on to say alcohol is a reason for "a lot" of problems in Bahrain.

He gives no evidence to support this claim. I'm pretty darn sure if we were furnished with crime statistics, you'd find that the vast majority of crimes committed in Bahrain are non-alcohol related even though alcohol is readily available in clubs/bars/restaurants/off-licences etc
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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 08:04
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It's the bridge to Saudi that causes alot of alcohol related problems, not the booze itself.
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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 13:38
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Believe me there is plenty of opposition to the parliament by the educated Bahrainis but our MPs pander to,for lack of a better word, donkeys of our little island. Thank God that we do NOT live in a proper democracy, otherwise we would all be forced to grow beards, marry our cousins, pray 85 times a day, spit at all non-muslims amongst otherthings. These bearded fools even insist that Sistani(An Iraqi cleric) should give his approval before the government ammends any laws?!?!
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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 16:02
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Chuck Y, maybe it is time you take a breather. Such words are spiteful and stereotypical, and totally baseless. Shame.
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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 17:04
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Thank God that we do NOT live in a proper democracy, otherwise we would all be forced to grow beards
Like you would call the forced imposition of a single religion on everyone a "proper democracy"? Bahrain would remain an undemocratic nation either way.

Constitutionally separate politics from religion and there might be light at the end of this tunnel.
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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 21:09
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Mike.Park, I never claimed to be an advocate of democracy especially in this part of the world. Can you name one sucessful "experiment" with democracy for me? If we voted for the polictal entities that would really work for the country & the people I believe that many Western countries would not except the outcome & would find ways to void the ballot. I guess I am just a big dictator at heart!!!
Boilermaker, unfortunately I am speaking the truth. Our politicians & religious leaders are intolent, arrogant, xenophobic uneducated idiots. You should check out how many of the MPs that are supposed to be shaping this country both politically & economically have completed secondary school.
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Old 23rd Jan 2009, 21:30
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I will swap you Gordon Brown and throw in Mr Darling if the Bahrain government would come over and sort out the Uk.
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Old 24th Jan 2009, 06:50
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I would not go as far as seeing how many MP's have secondary education, just check out the majority of Bahrainis working for GF who can string a sentence and the expats they hire like Herr Naff who completed his degree in a 2 minute university.

I used to be in total disagreement with ODMEA but I am glad he has finally seen the light, or the lack thereoff!

Good luck boys!

May not be easy elswhere, but no one has time for any of the nonsense that goes on at GF. My flag, my country BS, and gorging themselves on the facilities like mosquitoes on sweet white skin.
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Old 24th Jan 2009, 10:58
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Calm down you lot, cut out the religous stuff, or this thread gets binned and the posters banned. No democracy here, right

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Old 24th Jan 2009, 13:50
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sounds like chuck is bahraini? anyways guys who really cares about this crap? a long time ago i realized WE can not do anything so chill out collect the check and if or when ur freedoms and liberties are impeded on leave. i am not an advocate of if u dont like it go with the airline persay but there is some steadfast opposition to common sense in the palace deal with it. anyways lets have better topics like arguing over 777's that is more FUN!!!
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Coming soon to an inbox near you...
..."Are you interested in transferring to the B777... other details to follow shortly."

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Old 27th Jan 2009, 03:47
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I am interested in any info on the hiring plans and interview questions. I have been on the 737, and I am currently in A320 training (have a 737 SIC type and will have an unrestricted A320 type next month). I have to find something by May, when I get furloughed.

Thanks for the help!
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Old 29th Jan 2009, 23:33
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Do you have to be typed to get an interview wirh Gulf Air? Are they hiring?
Thank you
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Old 30th Jan 2009, 03:56
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I assume you mean on the A-320, if so I think all the current newhires are typed and yes, we are hireing.
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GDN

Airline shake-up plea



By MOHAMMED AL A' ALI

MANAMA

PARLIAMENT yesterday demanded that Gulf Air president and chief executive Bjorn NŠf be sacked, saying he is not up to the job.The call follows a meeting between parliamentary financial and economic affairs committee and airline board members, led by executive committee chairman and director Jawad Habib Jawad.

A statement issued later through parliament's general secretariat called for a "search for a new chief executive who has the qualifications and experience necessary for a commercial airline".

It also called for four expatriate chiefs of various divisions to be replaced by Bahrainis.

Of six such posts, only two are held by Bahrainis.

"It is important to Bahrainise higher leadership posts, especially higher administrative posts, giving Bahrainis priority in employment, education and training," said the statement.

It stressed that the company should not get rid of any Bahrainis, but questioned the education and experience of expatriate employees, including those in the most senior posts.

MPs say the airline's problems have continued under Mr NŠf's leadership and that he has employed expatriates in high-ranking posts for which they have neither the experience nor qualifications.

The meeting, called to discuss the company's problems and measures taken to solve them, was also attended by Finance Ministry officials.

It was convened by the committee, which has been holding extensive meetings with the company.

"Nothing has changed over the past two years, since the new chief executive was appointed - on the contrary, he has created more problems and this is why we believe he should go," said committee vice-chairman Abdulhaleem Murad.

"What's worse is that no-one knows who is running the company - is it the board, Bahrain Mumtalakat Holding Company or the ministry?

"We welcome anyone with the qualification and credentials to be part of the management, whether Bahraini or not, but the current people don't match these criteria.

"Out of the six (division) chiefs only two are Bahrainis and what's worse is that the strategy consultant, who is also an expatriate, is 35 years old, which means that he has no experience and we are not sure about his educational background."

Committee chairman Abduljalil Khalil said the company should come up with a strategy to Bahrainise rather than "foreignise".

"Bring in qualified people, who could help train and guide Bahrainis to take leadership posts in future, but don't bring in people who do nothing.

"I am not saying from the top of my head that they are doing nothing - the company's deficit is a good example of what I am talking about.

"Two years of nothing, two years of more problems, two years of no transparency and the company is yet to provide parliament or the public with real numbers on its current financial status."

Mr Khalil said that parliamentary blocs and independent MPs postponed setting up a committee to probe into the company's affairs two weeks ago, but was set to take it up again next week.

"We can't go on listening to the same thing again and again and again. We have to investigate the problems and a probe committee is the solution.

"The postponement decision was taken because we wanted to have precise fields of investigation."

MPs quizzed airline representatives about senior officials' nationalities, education and experience, demanding that all six (division) chiefs be Bahrainis.

They also questioned officials on the alleged mounting losses and whether the company was following the Tender Board's directives.

The meeting also focused on the airline's contracts for maintenance work and the amount spent.

Committee secretary Dr Aziz Abul said that it would hold more meetings to try to solve problems.

"We have asked for information in writing, in addition to what the committee has received."

Gulf Air officials were not available for comment.



The cycle starts again!
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Old 31st Jan 2009, 01:41
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CAM you missed something.

NO ALCOHOL.

Thank you GF.
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