Gulf Air Developments
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From: way down south
The biggest problem in GF is that the management from the COO down are unwilling to stand up the other depts & the CEO. Whenever a new route is planned or new aircraft are ordered they just say that they can manage the situation-as we can see all too well!- and allow the pilots/crews to be screwed even harder. All of this because their lazy useless bums have gotten so used to their chairs & the wives are happily spending their over inflated pay checks. And at the end of the days it's us that suffer with ridiculous duty times/blocks, canceled leaves, called to fly on days off.
I suggest we all stop helping them & only fly our rosters then maybe we will get some repsect.
I suggest we all stop helping them & only fly our rosters then maybe we will get some repsect.
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From: Holland
Any chances?
Hey guys wright now I have grand tt of 500 includding 200 turboprop mtw of 13000lbs as FO. Also flying irregular rooster. Any chances for me to join gulf air now? Btw every company has its issues, even if you would be flying for klm, ba or lh there is alsways something to complain about...
thanks for the opinion
thanks for the opinion
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From: uphere
hi guyz im new hear thinking to join gulfiar need some info about rumors i here is it true you have 8000 dinar bond when you join and only 2 year temporary contract, also is bahrain like i see on news with guns and stuff
thank you
thank you
Joined: Feb 2011
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From: UK
@ Good Day,
It's rated pilots only with a minimum of 500hrs on type only IIRC. Sorry.
GF is looking into an operational expansion into India with operations to several new destinations for 2012.
Source: Gulf Daily News
It's rated pilots only with a minimum of 500hrs on type only IIRC. Sorry.
GF is looking into an operational expansion into India with operations to several new destinations for 2012.
Source: Gulf Daily News
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From: 39000 FT
New GF Falcon Gold Class anyone???
New IFE is great BUT WHEN are the A330's (?A340's) going to get the NEW Falcon Gold Class.
A320 new Business Class is Pathetic when compared to QR and EY on same aircraft....GF is crazy to ignore the competition offerings and AT LEAST equal it.
It's almost like there is someone at GF intentionally sabotaging it so it never quite matches the competition.
GF's hard product has always been its achilies heel. Not since James Hogan(love him or hate him) and the new F , J cabins, BAH Lounge, chef and sky nannys has GF done anything to fix its hard product - its WEAKEST link.
A320 new Business Class is Pathetic when compared to QR and EY on same aircraft....GF is crazy to ignore the competition offerings and AT LEAST equal it.
It's almost like there is someone at GF intentionally sabotaging it so it never quite matches the competition.
GF's hard product has always been its achilies heel. Not since James Hogan(love him or hate him) and the new F , J cabins, BAH Lounge, chef and sky nannys has GF done anything to fix its hard product - its WEAKEST link.
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From: UK
Regarding GF's Manila flights, how are they performing?
Just read an article with the following quote;"...urged Manila to review its Common Carrier Tax (3 percent of the gross receipts) and 2.5-percent Gross Philippine Billings Tax on all cargo and passenger revenue originating from the Philippines in an uninterrupted flight, regardless of the place of sale or issue of a ticket.
“The Philippines is the only country that charges such taxes,” ... said.
“By contrast, other Asian countries offer incentives to foreign carriers. There has been an exodus of foreign carriers, primarily long-haul, from the Philippines for a number of years.
The Philippines will start charging carriers a 12-percent value-added tax on crew accommodations on Nov. 1.
On Aug. 11, the International Air Transport Association wrote the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines to urge it not to increase its telecommunications charges on foreign airlines.
Copyright Manila Standard Today 2005-2009, article dated 11-11-2011.
Will this have any implication on GF's operation? If the route is performing marginal this might just be the last drop.
Just read an article with the following quote;"...urged Manila to review its Common Carrier Tax (3 percent of the gross receipts) and 2.5-percent Gross Philippine Billings Tax on all cargo and passenger revenue originating from the Philippines in an uninterrupted flight, regardless of the place of sale or issue of a ticket.
“The Philippines is the only country that charges such taxes,” ... said.
“By contrast, other Asian countries offer incentives to foreign carriers. There has been an exodus of foreign carriers, primarily long-haul, from the Philippines for a number of years.
The Philippines will start charging carriers a 12-percent value-added tax on crew accommodations on Nov. 1.
On Aug. 11, the International Air Transport Association wrote the Civil Aviation Authority of the Philippines to urge it not to increase its telecommunications charges on foreign airlines.
Copyright Manila Standard Today 2005-2009, article dated 11-11-2011.
Will this have any implication on GF's operation? If the route is performing marginal this might just be the last drop.
happy employees = 
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From: UK
Anyway, back to topic. New for summer 2012 SEEMS to be Amsterdam with a 2 or 3 times a week service. GF has been awarded their requested slots at AMS. Being awarded slots means nothing by itself but where there's smoke there's fire. Equipment is most likely going to be a PrivatAir 73G.
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From: uphere
i have now firme confirmatian from one person inside compani, 320 anyway contract 2 year temporari 8000 dinar bond also i herd that flight blocs geting bad only turn or deadheding and operating back can i plese have confirmation, i have to choose betwen qatar and gulfair
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From: way down south
flyjuly, if I were you I would go to Qatar. We know its not perfect there but at least its better than GF. Morale here is dropping daily due to the inept way we are all being overworked due to severe lack of planning & management from the people upstairs. Things will only get worse since this leads to more resignations hence we get even shorter on crews & the cycle is complete. The management have seen fit to cancel a large number of pilots leave recently which has ialso had a dramatic effect on crew morale(I have flown with plenty of guys that have had leave cancelled & is really is not conductive to good CRM in the cockpit). Despite all of this the COO & DFO seem oblivious to this & care very little about what is actually going on.
Choose wiserly my friend since I believe that GF doesn't have much of a future compared to the rest of the airlines in the region, sure it will always be around but it will just be a tiny badly run regional carrier.
Choose wiserly my friend since I believe that GF doesn't have much of a future compared to the rest of the airlines in the region, sure it will always be around but it will just be a tiny badly run regional carrier.
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From: UK
Aaah, welcome back the old Meph. Absolutely right except for one point. The COO & DFO are NOT oblivious. They know, full well, what is going on but can't do much. Even in these directive & controlling positions, hands are tied. So, they just sit back & calculate the bonuses paid for towing the line.In my part of the world, managerial power is given. Get it wrong, you will be fired. In your part of the world, where it matters who you know, real power never given but controlled, a strangled and fearful management will never succeed. But then you know all that, Meph, and clearly back on top form. A delight to read, albeit a bit sad.
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From: USA
flyjuly, if I were you I would go to Qatar. We know its not perfect there but at least its better than GF. Morale here is dropping daily due to the inept way we are all being overworked due to severe lack of planning & management from the people upstairs. Things will only get worse since this leads to more resignations hence we get even shorter on crews & the cycle is complete. The management have seen fit to cancel a large number of pilots leave recently which has ialso had a dramatic effect on crew morale(I have flown with plenty of guys that have had leave cancelled & is really is not conductive to good CRM in the cockpit). Despite all of this the COO & DFO seem oblivious to this & care very little about what is actually going on.
Choose wiserly my friend since I believe that GF doesn't have much of a future compared to the rest of the airlines in the region, sure it will always be around but it will just be a tiny badly run regional carrier.
Choose wiserly my friend since I believe that GF doesn't have much of a future compared to the rest of the airlines in the region, sure it will always be around but it will just be a tiny badly run regional carrier.
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From: UK
A320 sharklets, any use for GF? Link to flightglobal
A up to 3.5% reduction in fuel burn on 3000nm sectors and increase takeoff performance by up to 3 tonnes, Airbus claims.
A up to 3.5% reduction in fuel burn on 3000nm sectors and increase takeoff performance by up to 3 tonnes, Airbus claims.