Are things crazy on the road or is it my imagination?
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Yes correct, but unfortunately a majority of muslim pilots in the gulf choose not to use this exemption from the Koran. They choose to fast, not eating and DRINKING at all during daytime, which in my view is extremely bad judgement and down right dangerous.
Why this is not forbidden by ICAO is beyond my comprehension.
Why this is not forbidden by ICAO is beyond my comprehension.
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Why this is not forbidden by ICAO is beyond my comprehension.
Job done.
PS. Flight attendants included.
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Why can't ICAO have influence in this?
We, ICAO and our passengers don't accept drinking and flying. Why are we, ICAO and our passengers accepting fasting and flying, which can be much more dangerous?
We accept it because we don't dare to adress this problem while employed in this region.
Our passengers don't know about it.
ICAO haven't dealt with the problem yet, why I still don' understand. Probably as usual it must take a major accident were the major reason was found to be fasting pilots commiting human error before something happends.
Can't we for once be proactive?!
We, ICAO and our passengers don't accept drinking and flying. Why are we, ICAO and our passengers accepting fasting and flying, which can be much more dangerous?
We accept it because we don't dare to adress this problem while employed in this region.
Our passengers don't know about it.
ICAO haven't dealt with the problem yet, why I still don' understand. Probably as usual it must take a major accident were the major reason was found to be fasting pilots commiting human error before something happends.
Can't we for once be proactive?!
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I am sick of praying and fastening first officers..... but anyway, i am on my way out of here, thanks god.
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Ramadan Kareem
I have always enjoyed Ramadan but learnt very quickly to be off the road at least an hour before sunset. Pick a nice spot preferably well above street level (apartment with terrace) with a view of the traffic below settle down with your own (expat) interpretation of iftaar (a few tinnies and pub food snacks!) relax and watch the entertainment unfold! Dirham for Dirham I reckon it's more entertaining than F1 in Abu Dhabi will ever be.
Ramadan Kareem.
Ramadan Kareem.
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driving to flying in 16 easy steps!
Wow! didn't this thread start of as a simple comment on driving habits during the Holy month of Ramadan?
How to chance subjects entirely in around 16 steps!
How to chance subjects entirely in around 16 steps!
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I dont know about your employers and their relation to fasting during crew duty time.. but the operators I've been in contact with strictly forbids fasting during flying. These rules are ofcource hard to enforce but most people seem to take it seriously and will hold of fasting during duty time. At my old flightschool only the christian students were alowed to fly solo after 12 o clock because they didnt trust the rest to uphold from fasting..and this was in the middle east...
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Sure, they should take their leave during this time. We'd be happy to fill in and they would do the same for us during X-mas and Easter.
Oh no, I forgot. Then they would miss the X-mas shopping, Chriskindlmarket and the celebrity walks around St.Anton, St.Moritz ....
Oh no, I forgot. Then they would miss the X-mas shopping, Chriskindlmarket and the celebrity walks around St.Anton, St.Moritz ....
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QTRminator.
As much as I love flying as an industry professional (ground based) I prefer to keep my Dunlops firmly attached to the black stuff! I just love the sound of my V8 5.7L as I floor it on the SZR. I'll gladly leave the sticktime to the other professionals in this business whom I trust implicitly with my life.
I have a UAE driving licence and have survived a number of years driving in the region do you think Etihad or Emirates might give me a shot at the right hand seat? LOL!
As much as I love flying as an industry professional (ground based) I prefer to keep my Dunlops firmly attached to the black stuff! I just love the sound of my V8 5.7L as I floor it on the SZR. I'll gladly leave the sticktime to the other professionals in this business whom I trust implicitly with my life.
I have a UAE driving licence and have survived a number of years driving in the region do you think Etihad or Emirates might give me a shot at the right hand seat? LOL!
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There are MUSLIMS and Muslims. The MUSLIMS know exactly what to do and when, being it a prayer, a meal or even speak about their religion. The Muslims (or perhaps just muslims) don't do any of the above. This is the big difference in this religion or any other.
Nowadays, there is no room for fundamentalism despite what some try to instill in all of us. This applies to all sectors of life.
Perhaps this article shows a bit of what I say here:
Nowadays, there is no room for fundamentalism despite what some try to instill in all of us. This applies to all sectors of life.
Perhaps this article shows a bit of what I say here:
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Well back to the original thread!
I have been driving in Canada and the States for the better part of 23years with one accident!
After being in the Mid East for 3 years I know the craziness of the Iftar 500! Yesterday I experienced 2 ... I say again 2 accidents which makes 3 in 5 days.
Even the insurance company couldn`t believe it! They even said that the computer won`t allow them to process 2 accidents in one day! Of which I replied "you better change your policy".
STOP THE MADNESS!!!
And we let people fly in this state??? Its 50 degrees outside and NO food or water. SERIOUSLY!!! PS: the 3 drivers while waiting for the police ... fell asleep!
I have been driving in Canada and the States for the better part of 23years with one accident!
After being in the Mid East for 3 years I know the craziness of the Iftar 500! Yesterday I experienced 2 ... I say again 2 accidents which makes 3 in 5 days.
Even the insurance company couldn`t believe it! They even said that the computer won`t allow them to process 2 accidents in one day! Of which I replied "you better change your policy".
STOP THE MADNESS!!!
And we let people fly in this state??? Its 50 degrees outside and NO food or water. SERIOUSLY!!! PS: the 3 drivers while waiting for the police ... fell asleep!
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L Plates
Anyone been to Ireland (RoI) recently? Seems there are 250,000+ drivers on Provisional Licences who are driving around without supervision or displaying L plates as the Law requires.
All dates back to a time when there was an explosion (was that a pun?) in car ownership and the testing system couldn't cope with the number of new drivers looking to take the test. A few years back I believe the Government offered an amnesty to all L drivers who had been driving illegally for three years or more!
Last year the Government decided to deal with the residue but backed down when confronted by an angry public (the provisional licence holders) who demanded to know how the Government expected them to travel to work if they couldn't illegally drive their cars! what a joke! Government then announced a 'stay of execution' stating that the legislation would be enforced this year 2008. Guess what..... yes the roads are apparently still full of provisional drivers who are driving illegally.
Add to this the influx of Eastern European vehicles with left hand drive and blacked out windows and I think Ireland has the makings of a EIREB500 to match the entertainment value of the Iftar500 the Delhi Dash the Cairo Cull or the Manila Mangle!
All dates back to a time when there was an explosion (was that a pun?) in car ownership and the testing system couldn't cope with the number of new drivers looking to take the test. A few years back I believe the Government offered an amnesty to all L drivers who had been driving illegally for three years or more!
Last year the Government decided to deal with the residue but backed down when confronted by an angry public (the provisional licence holders) who demanded to know how the Government expected them to travel to work if they couldn't illegally drive their cars! what a joke! Government then announced a 'stay of execution' stating that the legislation would be enforced this year 2008. Guess what..... yes the roads are apparently still full of provisional drivers who are driving illegally.
Add to this the influx of Eastern European vehicles with left hand drive and blacked out windows and I think Ireland has the makings of a EIREB500 to match the entertainment value of the Iftar500 the Delhi Dash the Cairo Cull or the Manila Mangle!