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Old 27th Oct 2008, 17:19
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190'S FLYING!!!!



As I sat on the ramp at OEGS for 4 hours today this 190 came in and out, so they are actually flying. Heard on the grape vine that the LTE crew and plane are going back soon.

Taken with my camera phone so dont knock the quality!
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Old 27th Oct 2008, 18:30
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that's great!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 28th Oct 2008, 03:57
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that's great!!!!!!!!!!!!
......Not really when you consider that they got them in the 1st qtr 2008....... Poor show, actually!

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Old 28th Oct 2008, 09:43
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Mutt...........you of all people here should know that there is far more to this on-going saga than meets the eye. Not quite first quarter either. Global shortage of trained (and experienced) crews, GACA, managerial changes and cultural differences have all played their part in delaying an aircraft into service in a time frame that was frankly un-achievable. (by the way, while i am on this frankly absurd rant, they are 195's, OK!!)

Did i mention GACA. Although i'm on the toulouse tree-trimmer, it took me 136days to get a licence validation. One e-mail from GACA to the CAA, one e-mail back. Even at the most conservative of estimates, most of the hoards of workers we have in the command nerve centre in RUH could knock out one e-mail in a day...................possibly. Or maybe tommorow. Definately the day after.

I'm not sure EMB work on those lead times for delivery.........."You ordered it,we've built it, do you want it at this price or what??" is probably more like it. Anyway, our new friends (??) at the big airline in OEJN are training lots and lots and lots of crews...........well, a few anyway, so things are on the up for the ugly little jungle jet.

Damm, there i go again, sticking up for the company. 100 lines;

Must stop sticking up for the company
Must stop sticking up for the company
Must stop sticking up for the company
Must stop sticking it to the company

Now you have all been told before to Fly Ginger
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Old 29th Oct 2008, 20:04
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Stay Away
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Old 29th Oct 2008, 20:42
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Why?
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Old 29th Oct 2008, 22:09
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stay away?

Dear Loser in Life before you listen to threads like this please ask a few basic questions like,
1 do you work there?
2 have you ever even been to the middle east much less Saudi?
remember, no matter where you go there are always those 5% of the guys that are going to make mountains of molehills and are basically not happy unless they are whinning. NAS is not perfect, but they pay you on time, they stick to the contract you signed, even 6 on 3 off is pretty good, yes we all miss women and an occasional beer but considering the aviation job market, especially back in the states its not a bad gig.
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Old 30th Oct 2008, 00:20
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Thanks for the insight on NAS. I just wanted to know what his reasoning was for writing stay away.
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Old 30th Oct 2008, 00:41
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Global shortage of trained (and experienced) crews,
What you mean to say here is that there is a global shortage of trained (and experienced) crews willing to come to Saudi Arabia for the ever worsening terms and conditions that NAS is offering. Not to mention, there is a shortage of people willing to put up with the horrendous application process, the communication process (or lack there of), and the nearly impossible process of getting a Saudi Visa.

(Not to mention their definition of experienced is certainly bizarre... They were the first company to ever tell me that PIC time on an E170, between Chicago and Des Moines a few times a day, is more beneficial for flying an E195 in Saudi than command time on the B747 and B757, actually flying in Saudi (along with SIC in the E190. Go figure.........)
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Old 30th Oct 2008, 15:06
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What all is involved in the GACA medical? Is it similar to the FAA medical?
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Old 30th Oct 2008, 21:33
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In theory the GACA medical is the FAA medical....

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Old 31st Oct 2008, 10:13
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jungledrvr,
The GACA medical is identical to the FAA, and my personal experence with it here it is very quick and the absolute min. required
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Old 2nd Nov 2008, 08:19
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Anyone else waiting a very long time for visa paperwork?
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Old 3rd Nov 2008, 09:02
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It is been one month now for me and no news.
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Old 3rd Nov 2008, 11:24
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Has it been one month since you signed your contract or since you applied
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Old 3rd Nov 2008, 11:52
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A little over a month (since signing) for me also. The problem seems to be with Flight Crew Solutions at least in my case.
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Old 3rd Nov 2008, 13:29
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One month since signed the contract. And i go directly with Al Kezzi.
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Old 4th Nov 2008, 18:17
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INFO

hello,

does anybody knows any number for contacting NAS operations?

best regards

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Old 28th Dec 2008, 19:24
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Hello NAS people

I got a bit confused here, Storm is doing 6/2, 6/3 interviews, as I mentioned before. Just met a guy who has a recent 35/31 contract. Is this subject to negotiation or what? And are there both types of contracts working alongside together? Also it seems, even rated people do the rating again...this is confirmed news. A GACA idea or just the way to get in? Thanks.
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Old 28th Dec 2008, 21:00
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Nas embraers

Anyone coming up with another Embraer delivery to NAS Air?Last time flew 1 over Malta!!
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