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Old 3rd Aug 2008, 07:31
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There is a caveat on accelerated command -9.

Ask your friends to quote the relevant section of the FOM to you.

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Old 3rd Aug 2008, 09:11
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Willie - agree 100%. The difference though is most guys on here are complaining about the policy (ie. about the company) and NOT the DEC himself. In that regard they can complain all they like - whether they knew about the policy or not does not diminish their complaint. It is unfair-period.

An FO should be able to sit and have a beer with a DEC, enjoy the conversation and be able to say "I dislike the DEC policy but I have nothing against the DEC personally". It is the FO's who have issue with the DEC himself that should keep themselves in check. Likewise the DEC's should keep their mouths quite and go about their business without throwing it in the faces of the FO's.

99% of the time the DEC's and FO's at EK are fine.
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Old 3rd Aug 2008, 13:13
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No Land 3

nl3

you Are Wrong!!
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Old 3rd Aug 2008, 23:08
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What makes you think I have any friends?
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eklawyer wrote-
while many in training know they are struggling still with the base equipment, having had no previous EFIS and 10 line training sectors so its not the FO's fault
That is a fairly big call. I know quite a few of the guys going over- Ex Efis time, been with the company 2years,etc, and while I am not privy to their performance in the sim, seem to be good operators. Additionally none, of the ones I know had 10 line training sectors, they were trained before that change took place.

Just trying to provide a balanced view.
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Old 4th Aug 2008, 11:14
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wait for the 5 year FO freeze on the 380, if you think you will upgrade in 2 years after going the 380 you better have a rethink and maybe try to get off or just ask those how have aready tried with no success
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Old 4th Aug 2008, 11:34
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The first time I see a flight control computer over-controlling an ACFT.
New times in aviation!
Thanks God I'm in the Boeing!!!
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Old 4th Aug 2008, 13:16
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I was shocked to hear that discipline has dropped at EK to the point that football scores are requested on acars. What next ...Buying the DECs a drink on a slip....Well stranger things have happened


How does requesting football scores equate to a drop in disipline?
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Old 4th Aug 2008, 16:01
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Tough room
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Old 4th Aug 2008, 17:48
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Ok williewalsh,

This is how it works. On a flight to MAN a pax asks the purser if she can get an update on the man u score. The purser asks me if I can get an update on the man u score. I use the acars to ask dispatch if they can get the latest man u score. Dispatch sends me the latest man u score which I forward to the purser who gives it to the pax. The pax is extreemly happy and satisfied that the captain on the emirates flight can get the latest man u score. This is why he will ALWAYS fly emirates and not your crappy airline with it's totally disiplined pilots. And it is all because I am so undisiplined. And I have been undisiplined with the acars more than once! I am ashamed beyond belief! Yea right!

If you are serious and not "yanking our chain" than you have lost the plot. If you are "yanking our chain" it was a good one. Hats off.

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Old 4th Aug 2008, 18:05
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Yank Yank. Like I said tough room.
The dubai flat earth society at its best.

try noughts and crosses on acars much more fun.
Count the spaces to make the matrix and send.
Copy repeat play, copy repeat play until there is a winner.
Hope that establishes my yanking credentials.

Too many people with colons for scenery.
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Old 5th Aug 2008, 06:01
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Keep working the audience Willie, they are a tough crowd tonight, you'll get a laugh out of one or two of them sooner or later

As to the 5 year freeze that comes from everyones friend AAR, who knows if he will get his way but stand-by...

As for discipline, I guess all leave will have to be cancelled until moral and discipline improve!!

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Old 5th Aug 2008, 08:06
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willie - dooner was right: I'm laughing!

I use the acars for that kind of stuff all the time - it's perfect. I even use it iaw the FOM occasionally!
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Old 7th Aug 2008, 03:34
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NL3 - yep, you're wrong......

As for the acars, well I can't think of a better way to follow the cricket!! Already got the metars and tafs
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Old 7th Aug 2008, 17:00
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Doh! .
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Old 8th Aug 2008, 07:48
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Devil

A friend called EK recruitment to ask about DEC positions on the A380, He is currently Captain on 330/340 , he was told to apply and positions may be availiable in approx 18 months.
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Old 8th Aug 2008, 07:56
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I coundnt give a rats a++ about footie, cricket or chess scores. But I do provide them via ACARS if a pax requests them. Its a few dollars towards a customer service..
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Old 8th Aug 2008, 09:21
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Many Septembers ago, logged on to YMMM, asked for the half time score of the grand final.

Got ten minute updates, 12 messages all up!

No ACARS involved. How professional is that?

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Old 8th Aug 2008, 11:59
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MMMmmm Halas - would this be the same YMMM that report you to teacher if you use 'FREE TEXT'? Oh the evil of the free text on the ATC menu

Oh well - that's orstralian for you
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Old 17th Aug 2008, 13:24
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Why do DECS get such a hard time?

Okay, so i'm only an aspiring commercial pilot for the time being... But I struggle to understand why Emirates FOs hate decs? Rationally speaking anyone whom had had their command with a top airline on the same/kind of aircraft would want a similar position within their new company?? Is that so unreasonable? Or are decs just a bunch of overpaid bullies with nothing better to do than give fos a hard time whilst listening to music from their iphones. Because presumably decs can afford iphones...
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