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Wicked dude,
First off F/O's don't universally hate DEC's. A minority of DEC's that have come here do deserve every bit of slagging thrown their way, but not the majority. F/O's and Captains alike, hate the DEC POLICY !!
This is why....
It disadvantages all F/O's because it delays upgrades. This in turn affects every aspect of quality of life.
The company policy is to upgrade in this order.... Suitable F/O's, then Accelerated Command types........ then if necessary due a lack of the aforementioned....... DEC's. The company is not following their own, non-debatable, policy.
There is no need for DEC's. In the past 5 years, when this policy has caused so much grief, there has not been one moment when there was not a suitable F/O waiting for upgrade.
The company has further exascerbated the stupid policy by frequently hiring pilots with less experience and might I add, less suitability, than F/O's already at the company.
It has been an exercise in cost savings without concern whatsoever for those it affects negatively.
If the pilot profession was considered a management position, then a company could argue that they should be able to hire any pilot they wish and place him in any position they wish at any time. It would be like a surgeon moving to a different hospital and taking up a position senior and better paying to his new peers, presumably because he was more qualified. The pilot profession is not the same. Seniority is everything in a company, something about which you will learn in short order.
When a company messes with seniority then they are playing with fire. There is little incentive for F/O's to join a company, which results in a potential crisis in recruitment (something we went through), as well as the fact that no longer will the most qualified and most suitable F/O's seek employment with said company.
First off F/O's don't universally hate DEC's. A minority of DEC's that have come here do deserve every bit of slagging thrown their way, but not the majority. F/O's and Captains alike, hate the DEC POLICY !!
This is why....
It disadvantages all F/O's because it delays upgrades. This in turn affects every aspect of quality of life.
The company policy is to upgrade in this order.... Suitable F/O's, then Accelerated Command types........ then if necessary due a lack of the aforementioned....... DEC's. The company is not following their own, non-debatable, policy.
There is no need for DEC's. In the past 5 years, when this policy has caused so much grief, there has not been one moment when there was not a suitable F/O waiting for upgrade.
The company has further exascerbated the stupid policy by frequently hiring pilots with less experience and might I add, less suitability, than F/O's already at the company.
It has been an exercise in cost savings without concern whatsoever for those it affects negatively.
If the pilot profession was considered a management position, then a company could argue that they should be able to hire any pilot they wish and place him in any position they wish at any time. It would be like a surgeon moving to a different hospital and taking up a position senior and better paying to his new peers, presumably because he was more qualified. The pilot profession is not the same. Seniority is everything in a company, something about which you will learn in short order.
When a company messes with seniority then they are playing with fire. There is little incentive for F/O's to join a company, which results in a potential crisis in recruitment (something we went through), as well as the fact that no longer will the most qualified and most suitable F/O's seek employment with said company.
DEC have been in emirates since the start of the company.Any FO who did his homework will have known that, If you did not not do your homework who is to blame?. Not DEC,not company .
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DEC have been in emirates since the start of the company.Any FO who did his homework will have known that, If you did not not do your homework who is to blame?. Not DEC,not company .
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The company line is it's cheaper to get a DEC than do transition upgrades.
1. So why do we have DEC's on the 777 or airbus with F/o's being delayed. No need for transitions at the moment.
2. If it's cheaper to hire a DEC than upgrade an F/O, why is the company upgrading any first officer?
3. Why is anybody joining as an F/O? (Jobless excused)
4. DEC's say "don't moan to us, blame the company. You'd do the same etc"
I say lets see the current DEC's moan if the new DEC's came in on higher pay point's, or on commuters rosters or even based!!!
5. You're a DEC you're not needed so shut it!!!
1. So why do we have DEC's on the 777 or airbus with F/o's being delayed. No need for transitions at the moment.
2. If it's cheaper to hire a DEC than upgrade an F/O, why is the company upgrading any first officer?
3. Why is anybody joining as an F/O? (Jobless excused)
4. DEC's say "don't moan to us, blame the company. You'd do the same etc"
I say lets see the current DEC's moan if the new DEC's came in on higher pay point's, or on commuters rosters or even based!!!
5. You're a DEC you're not needed so shut it!!!
