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Old 9th Jul 2008, 13:59
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how did it work out? anybody in the know?
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Old 10th Jul 2008, 21:26
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I heard that he has now been told that he can apply for an exit permit ... whatever that means.
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Old 10th Jul 2008, 22:38
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Makes you wonder what company info this guy had. That little bald guy with the cold limp hands spent a couple of days in jail himself a few years back for cheating a Saudi investor of millions of dollars. This is a rumor network, I bet the poor prisoner is a disgruntled employee of Dr Evil who had really good dirt in his pocket. Pity....
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Old 26th Jul 2008, 14:38
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What happened ??

Was he 'freed' ?? All seems a bit of a strange situation to me and probably a nightmare for him !!
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'Daily Mail' Thread

British airline boss is locked in solitary for 25 days after arrest for 'spying' in Middle East | Mail Online

The usual rag comments.......

My thoughts go out to Gill, Lottie & Harry at this time ....... fingers crossed that the ordeal wont last for too much longer and that Ian will be home soon .....
Good Luck at BMI Mate ! Will see you in Staines sometime soon
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Old 27th Jul 2008, 18:00
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This is not good news for QR, having all this dragged through a UK tabloid, and reported meetings with Gordon Brown, etc, etc..........

Methinks the little one needs to receive a SEVERE rap on the knuckles for this one. This is a preposterous outing and one that will only bring harm to QR if Heywood is not released immediately.
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Old 27th Jul 2008, 19:02
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Someone told me there was also a QR Capt jailed few years back EU citizen.
Nice airline it is !
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Old 27th Jul 2008, 19:48
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'Exit Permit'

As I understand it.....

If you are a non-Qatari national employed in Qatar by a local company (I.E. everyone who actually does any WORK there), the normal routine is to surrender your passport to your employer. I know one person working there who has been allowed to retain it because they need to move around the UAE for business.
I don't know if this rule applies to aircrew - international travel being an obvious part of the job, but....

If the employee wishes to leave the country, either for leave or on termination of their contract, they must obtain official permission from their employer - their sponsor - and/or get their passport back and the official permission to leave the country, otherwise they will be held at immigration (I've seen it happen several times at Doha airport). The sponsor's name is written in the work permit in the passport, so it's no good saying you're a tourist.

I know of two Brit nationals who have 'escaped' from Qatar by doing a runner on a leave 'pass'. I doubt if they're the only ones...

That's how it can be in that country - I was fortunate to work for a UK company and not have to lose my passport so I could leave whenever I liked, but I stuck it because I only needed to be there eight months.

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Old 27th Jul 2008, 21:57
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An extraodinary situation which risks QR becoming a no-go area for expatriates.
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 09:19
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Exit permit

Exit permit is normal procedure in country where human rights are granted . Am sure UK will intreduce it as well and maybe US and Belgium .. ha ha what a good idea !
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 10:01
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When the then QR Head of Cargo resigned five or six years ago he was refused an exit permit for a week because Al Baker suspected he was going to join a rival airline.

The guy was only permitted to leave the country after persistent phone calls to Al Baker.

It's outrageous that a company can prevent an employee from leaving the country.

This whole thing should serve as a big warning to anyone thinking of joining QR. Just ask yourself, "Is it worth the risk"?
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 11:00
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Exit permit is normal procedure in country where human rights are granted .
Er, can you explain that - and the rest of your post please.

If it was meant as sarcasm or humour, it was lost on me.

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Old 28th Jul 2008, 12:47
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am sure you didnt get me serious !
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Old 28th Jul 2008, 21:22
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am sure you didnt get me serious ! Today 12:00
Mate, I KNEW that you weren't serious, I just didn't understand WTF you were talking about.

Here in the UK we don't need Exit visas, we need more bloody ENTRY visas with a stricter control on who gets them.

Are you Qatari, btw? Just wondering - no axe to grind.

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Old 29th Jul 2008, 12:11
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Knowing this, i'm glad just leave the place (DOHA) while i was on leave, since i maintain living with my suitcase only while i'm in Doha. Thank God...
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Old 29th Jul 2008, 21:24
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Oh Yea and who was that 40&80. Never heard that one
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 11:02
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I recall that in 2001 the General Manager Commercial resigned by email while he was out of the country "on leave", probably so he wouldn't risk getting caught up in something like this.
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 13:24
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Whatever data or photos this guy had must have been very exciting. It isn't the Goat Airways winter menu for sure. Sexual or financial scandal of the highest order I bet. For him to still be in jail must mean he has emailed the stuff to someone outside and hasn't coughed up a name yet. Imagine how funny the photo: a little bald man, with flowing white dress held high, fondling a naked goat.....
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 13:47
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the runner style resignation is a very popular way to say good bye to the pearl of the gulf. and the story is a very good example of how things are done here.
Everything is taking personal by double alpha bravo, except the needs of the employee.
whether I.H. did do a "spy job" is a secondary question in the light of the above.
The article should be the compulsory link for everybody asking: How is life at QR?
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Old 30th Jul 2008, 15:21
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In these countries, you have got to be careful in not upsetting a local connected guy.
I've seen cases of having a policeman taking abusive action and arresting or humiliating an expat just because the former was upset with the expat's ramarks on driving (no fingering or any other obscene gesture).
At one time, one customs (x-ray guy) got upset with me because the machine was jamming while while he was distracted with one good looking lady passing by, and threatned me not to speak to "the authority" the way I did. All I did was to say the usual "Excuse me! the machine is jamming".
Here in DXB, this is not so notorious because the expat numbers outnumber 9 to 1 the locals, but then you have a number of other expats doing the same stuff because they just think this is their land.
They treat us like guests. Uhm! I don't treat my guests this way.
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