EK consecutive days off
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Capped at 14
Emirates has a number of short night turnaround flights, 40-50 minute sectors to Muscat, Doha, Bahrain and the like. Anyway, the way the computerised bidding system used to work there weren't enough crews to cover these flights.
So, the solution, limit the days off in the computer bidding system to 14 per month, et voila, enough crews to cover the night turnarounds.
Sorted!
And as fatbus says, then pretend that the reason for the cap (in print from management) is because of a disparity in work between the top and bottom bid groups, the premise being that the low bid groups are working too hard (I think the word fatigue was mentioned) while the high bid groups are not working hard enough. Although the real consequence of the cap is more work in the top bid groups and no change to the workload in the low bid groups.
ps forgot to say that the cap doesn't affect me at all because I can't recall ever getting more than 11 days off in a month, and it's usually 9 or 10 days off, with most months including ULH flights to Oz and/or the US.
So, the solution, limit the days off in the computer bidding system to 14 per month, et voila, enough crews to cover the night turnarounds.
Sorted!
And as fatbus says, then pretend that the reason for the cap (in print from management) is because of a disparity in work between the top and bottom bid groups, the premise being that the low bid groups are working too hard (I think the word fatigue was mentioned) while the high bid groups are not working hard enough. Although the real consequence of the cap is more work in the top bid groups and no change to the workload in the low bid groups.
ps forgot to say that the cap doesn't affect me at all because I can't recall ever getting more than 11 days off in a month, and it's usually 9 or 10 days off, with most months including ULH flights to Oz and/or the US.
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7x7 - no, CX.
Have a system called 'proffering' -where if you don't want to do a flight, you can advertise on the 'proffer board' within the portal.
If someone wants the flight, they get paid the company advised rate dependent on rank - per hour, for the block time...
Have a system called 'proffering' -where if you don't want to do a flight, you can advertise on the 'proffer board' within the portal.
If someone wants the flight, they get paid the company advised rate dependent on rank - per hour, for the block time...
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Junior,
There are short medium and bloody rediculous turn arounds everynight, the 330 cops a lot of them but increasingly the 777.
Go to www.emirates.com and see the network, that way you will realise that there is no way that we can give you that answer you seek.
There are short medium and bloody rediculous turn arounds everynight, the 330 cops a lot of them but increasingly the 777.
Go to www.emirates.com and see the network, that way you will realise that there is no way that we can give you that answer you seek.
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So Biff, when you accept a proffered flight in CX, who pays you the agreed upon rate for doing the flight?
(a) The company, or
(b) The pilot who proffered the flight?
On to a completely different point:
Spilt my coffee all over my keyboard when I read that little gem. Priceless.
Junior, I did a flight recently where there was this big yellow thingie high up in the sky. It was huge, at least twice the size of a full moon, (on which I, like most EK pilots, am an authority). Had to ask the other pilot what it was. I had seen it before, but I thought it only ever appeared REALLY low down in the eastern sky, just peeking above the eastern horizon, after a really long night flight. The other pilot told me that it actually gets as high as right overhead, then drops towards the western horizon in what he called "afternoon".
It might be true, but I think he was having me on.
(a) The company, or
(b) The pilot who proffered the flight?
On to a completely different point:
can you avoid "red eyes" at EK?
Junior, I did a flight recently where there was this big yellow thingie high up in the sky. It was huge, at least twice the size of a full moon, (on which I, like most EK pilots, am an authority). Had to ask the other pilot what it was. I had seen it before, but I thought it only ever appeared REALLY low down in the eastern sky, just peeking above the eastern horizon, after a really long night flight. The other pilot told me that it actually gets as high as right overhead, then drops towards the western horizon in what he called "afternoon".
It might be true, but I think he was having me on.
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7x7... that was just 'plane' funny, the not so funny thing is, is that when I have finally done a.... now what's it called????..... ah yes a 'day' flight, I have often asked my collegue "WTF is that bright thing up there, it's bloody annoying, can't get to sleep and all that"
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Junior, I did a flight recently where there was this big yellow thingie high up in the sky. It was huge, at least twice the size of a full moon, (on which I, like most EK pilots, am an authority). Had to ask the other pilot what it was. I had seen it before, but I thought it only ever appeared REALLY low down in the eastern sky, just peeking above the eastern horizon, after a really long night flight. The other pilot told me that it actually gets as high as right overhead, then drops towards the western horizon in what he called "afternoon".
We have a lot of red-eyes at my airline, but with some seniority it is possible to avoid them with our bidding system. Generally the most junior get stuck with them on the 737 fleet, but on the 757/767 fleet it takes much more seniority to avoid.
