DXB Radar vectoring 7th /8th
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From: i don't know
Why don't we stop shooting each side's messenger.
We all know the other side is trying to do their best with what's at their hands.
The big problem in this region is:
- The di^*heads who set up the rules are either no longer here, are way out of their league, have their head up some dark hole just for the doe or any combination of that. This goes for ATC, AUH, DXB, EK, EY and GCAA.
- Any remedy to this situation is obstructed by either cost or rivalry between Dubai or Abu Dhabi. Both give any dish-dash instant goose pimples.
So we'll just have to wait until a major one happens, then the blaming game will start with yelling and finger pointing until some top shot (and i can think of only one) blows the horn.
Just keep your fingers crossed you're not on shift when it happens.....
We all know the other side is trying to do their best with what's at their hands.
The big problem in this region is:
- The di^*heads who set up the rules are either no longer here, are way out of their league, have their head up some dark hole just for the doe or any combination of that. This goes for ATC, AUH, DXB, EK, EY and GCAA.
- Any remedy to this situation is obstructed by either cost or rivalry between Dubai or Abu Dhabi. Both give any dish-dash instant goose pimples.
So we'll just have to wait until a major one happens, then the blaming game will start with yelling and finger pointing until some top shot (and i can think of only one) blows the horn.
Just keep your fingers crossed you're not on shift when it happens.....
Last edited by GMDS; 22nd April 2008 at 14:42.
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From: Golden Road to Samarkand
I notice also with some dissapointment that some of the controllers from UAE ACC who have the most gripes and post on pretty much every thread containing the letters U A or E on pprune have been quiet when it comes time to start coming up with ideas on how to make work more bearable amongst ourselves. Interesting....
It's surprising how many problems can be solved after one-too-many Carlsbergs...
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From: Middle East
I notice today's afternoon arrivals all appear to be coming-in at a variety of altitudes, not maintaining the "usual" approach altitude above my area. One Sudanese A310 probably doing a visual approach appeared to nose-dive towards the thresh-hold. I love to see visual approaches being flown. They make for a nice afternoon's spotting.
Aside from the A310, other regular Friday afternoon traffic (TG 333 / EK 332s / EK777 / WY 738 / KU320 / etc, etc) appeared to be at various levels. Any special reason that anyone is aware of??
Aside from the A310, other regular Friday afternoon traffic (TG 333 / EK 332s / EK777 / WY 738 / KU320 / etc, etc) appeared to be at various levels. Any special reason that anyone is aware of??
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From: Abu Dhabi
Don’t be silly. Recognition of a problem we deal with everyday... who ever heard of such a thing?
No Dubai TWR had to move from the temporary tower they are in for the refurbishment of the main one into the temporary temporary tower due to the temporary tower being flooded.
Dubai had to go to 40min worth of inbounds only then 40 min worth of outbound only for a few hours with a NOTAM issued for 20 min holding and 15min delay on ground. That said excellent work by everyone involved in a difficult situation.
No Dubai TWR had to move from the temporary tower they are in for the refurbishment of the main one into the temporary temporary tower due to the temporary tower being flooded.
Dubai had to go to 40min worth of inbounds only then 40 min worth of outbound only for a few hours with a NOTAM issued for 20 min holding and 15min delay on ground. That said excellent work by everyone involved in a difficult situation.
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From: Delphi
I notice also with some dissapointment that some of the controllers from UAE ACC who have the most gripes and post on pretty much every thread containing the letters U A or E on pprune...
Slightly off topic, but can someone explain how you manage to flood a control tower. I mean, the thing is up in the air and sits on top of everything. Doesn't it?
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From: Over the hill and far away
VoxPopuli, it is supposed to be kept secret, but it was from the Jacuzzi over flowing when too many got in at the same time 
All these rumours about moving down to the floor below so that the Tower can be refurbished are just a smokescreen to hide the fact that the old Tower Cab has been converted into a Rest and Recreation Room for us poor over worked and under appreciated Dubai ATCO's
All these rumours about moving down to the floor below so that the Tower can be refurbished are just a smokescreen to hide the fact that the old Tower Cab has been converted into a Rest and Recreation Room for us poor over worked and under appreciated Dubai ATCO's
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From: plh
DXB ATCO's, on the side, how do you work the IL 76's that depart DXB at 06:00, that do not appear to have decent climb rate. One of them (all white livery) came at villa height over Mirdiff this morning. Incredible sight ! And noise.
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From: Dune
IL76's
Thanks to the open skies policy (which I lately heard is likely to be revised but don't hold your breath) Il76's will continue to fly low over Mirdiff and elsewhere. With the restrictions in force due to high obstacles (Burj et al) these flightless monsters continue crawling in the skies at 100ft per min climb rate at best really screwing up the rest of the flow. Just wait till summer really comes in and they will be flying at 2000ft all the way to Kandahar!
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From: KUL
IL76
I love to look into an IL76 cockpit from above while standing on my balcony in Mirdif. That thing has enough power, but Russian acceleration altitude is highest obstacle plus 50ft till 500kph. That means level flight till Mushrif park. Nothing beats the IL86 though...
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From: Sandpit
Holding our Breath
We will be soon REALLY holding our breath when the new OMJA - Jebel Ali Al Maktoum Intl, OMDM - Minhad, together with Sharjah OMSJ, & new Ajman Intl in the area just North East of Sharjah near Masafi will be ALL operational, with OMDB - Dubai International RIGHT in the THICK of THINGS...
All a shambles......
All a shambles......
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From: UAE
traffic problems UAE FIR
it could be worse...I could have to deal with it!!
Thank you all for your patience and hmour (or lack thereof) over the past 10 years...I am off for greener pastures in a couple of days.
Good luck with keeping them all apart when Emirates get the rest of their 450 aircraft planned for the next 10 years!
Thank you all for your patience and hmour (or lack thereof) over the past 10 years...I am off for greener pastures in a couple of days.
Good luck with keeping them all apart when Emirates get the rest of their 450 aircraft planned for the next 10 years!
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From: New Zealand
Good luck to you, duck. It was great working with you over the years. I hope everything pans out for you just the way you want it to.
Greener pastures usually refers to NZ so commiserations on your actual destination. How are you gonna afford the petrol there?
Greener pastures usually refers to NZ so commiserations on your actual destination. How are you gonna afford the petrol there?
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From: Golden Road to Samarkand
Another Wicket Keeper lost... and a good one at that. Running out of people to bowl wides to...
Have a look out the window as you start down to your new home... through the gaps in the cloud it's like a patch-work quilt. And, everywhere else is just a very short flight away...
Cheers,
Lightweight
Ps. Thanks for the Aspro.
Have a look out the window as you start down to your new home... through the gaps in the cloud it's like a patch-work quilt. And, everywhere else is just a very short flight away...
Cheers,
Lightweight
Ps. Thanks for the Aspro.
