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You agree with my nine points then you try to disagree with me?
The fact is that non Emiratis, whatever their colour, creed or religion, are discriminated against. You can dress it up however you like but you are only kidding yourself. As for jealousy, i'm not in any way envious of an Emirati. The ones i've worked with are generally polite and get on with their own lives leaving me to get on with mine. However, their work ethics tend to vary greatly, especially amongst some of the females who know full well that few non Emiratis would risk sacking them. Sacking them for demeanors that others here and abroad would undoubtedly lose their jobs over. The government protects them regardless of their abilities and that's plain wrong.
As I said, call it what you like but as clevelandHD states, the proof of the pudding is in the eating and i've eaten enough in the UAE to know how it tastes.
Sandude
What the frig has training got to do with it and what makes you think I am one? Back of the class for you.
Harry
You agree with my nine points then you try to disagree with me?
The fact is that non Emiratis, whatever their colour, creed or religion, are discriminated against. You can dress it up however you like but you are only kidding yourself. As for jealousy, i'm not in any way envious of an Emirati. The ones i've worked with are generally polite and get on with their own lives leaving me to get on with mine. However, their work ethics tend to vary greatly, especially amongst some of the females who know full well that few non Emiratis would risk sacking them. Sacking them for demeanors that others here and abroad would undoubtedly lose their jobs over. The government protects them regardless of their abilities and that's plain wrong.
As I said, call it what you like but as clevelandHD states, the proof of the pudding is in the eating and i've eaten enough in the UAE to know how it tastes.
Sandude
What the frig has training got to do with it and what makes you think I am one? Back of the class for you.
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Argh...yes, the old chestnut about free choice. Yep, can't disagree with you on that. All those Indian construction workers who paid all that money up front to come here. Do you think they chose to work their butts off 6 days a week, 12 hours a day? Do you think all the facts were presented to them as they signed the dotted line? Like not only the long, long hours but the squalid living conditions with 10 to a room and pay ( if they get it), of around 8-900 dhs month. I doubt it. That might just cut it in India but with the cost of living here, I call that slavery. When they do complain, or display any form of malcontent, they are arrested , sent to prison for 3 months, then deported. 7 days recently ran a short story on the latest 70 to fall victim to the 'free speech' that's allowed here. I guess that's why property is so expensive for what it is. All this prison time and deportations must cost a fortune
The local entrepreneurs need not lose sleep, however, as there are plenty more volunteers to fill their place and build their emerald city. Workers signing on the same corrupt dotted lines, oblivious of the lies and broken promises that lie ahead. Dreams and hopes shattered by nothing more than utter greed.
Argh...yes, the old chestnut about free choice. Yep, can't disagree with you on that. All those Indian construction workers who paid all that money up front to come here. Do you think they chose to work their butts off 6 days a week, 12 hours a day? Do you think all the facts were presented to them as they signed the dotted line? Like not only the long, long hours but the squalid living conditions with 10 to a room and pay ( if they get it), of around 8-900 dhs month. I doubt it. That might just cut it in India but with the cost of living here, I call that slavery. When they do complain, or display any form of malcontent, they are arrested , sent to prison for 3 months, then deported. 7 days recently ran a short story on the latest 70 to fall victim to the 'free speech' that's allowed here. I guess that's why property is so expensive for what it is. All this prison time and deportations must cost a fortune
The local entrepreneurs need not lose sleep, however, as there are plenty more volunteers to fill their place and build their emerald city. Workers signing on the same corrupt dotted lines, oblivious of the lies and broken promises that lie ahead. Dreams and hopes shattered by nothing more than utter greed.
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All those Indian construction workers who paid all that money up front to come here. To work their butts off 6 days a week, 12 hours a day.
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Yes, and comments like that are just what i'd expect from the low life that employ these people. By God they are poor but to take advantage of this by blatant lies is beyond belief. That's how the locals sleep here at night by justifying the 'job opportunities' that they create for the lower classes. Statistically, the majority of low paid workers spend the first 12-18 months working for free, paying off the 5-7000 dhs it cost them to get here in the first place! I wonder just how many still feel the same way about the land of golden opportunity as when they first arrived. When they return home 3 years later to see their families for the first time in as many years.
The crazy thing about all this is people like you buy into it.
Yes, and comments like that are just what i'd expect from the low life that employ these people. By God they are poor but to take advantage of this by blatant lies is beyond belief. That's how the locals sleep here at night by justifying the 'job opportunities' that they create for the lower classes. Statistically, the majority of low paid workers spend the first 12-18 months working for free, paying off the 5-7000 dhs it cost them to get here in the first place! I wonder just how many still feel the same way about the land of golden opportunity as when they first arrived. When they return home 3 years later to see their families for the first time in as many years.
The crazy thing about all this is people like you buy into it.
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A lot of those poor people by the threshold of 27 in BOM would come here to work for free if they would be offered. But, offering underpaid jobs to poor people doesn't make you a great person, it's abusing their situation. When you run a multi billion ultra-profitable business, dignity, you can afford....so paying fair wages would be....fair.
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So one can assume that most of you guys posting on this thread are paying there 6 days a week 7 to 6 working maids something in the range of 2500-3000 Dhs? Hats of for you guys! Fine example of how it should be, change the world start with yous selfs
Funny that most guys I speak to are paying the slavery wage of 1000-1500, but surely not you guys. I have to admit that I do, thats why I shut up on this thread because that would be a bit hypo..
Funny that most guys I speak to are paying the slavery wage of 1000-1500, but surely not you guys. I have to admit that I do, thats why I shut up on this thread because that would be a bit hypo..
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Sandude
You make a lot of assumptions when you post and the most recent two are fine examples. I, like Menard, choose not to have a maid. The ball & chain manages quite nicely on her own. Not only for house keeping but for the far more important task of raising our children. Although almost grown up now, the cost of leaving a vital job like this to an under qualified and inexperienced maid should not be underestimated. You can't put a price on that but some out there are happy for their kids to be 'moulded' by someone else for £200 a month. I can spot the maid raised kid a mile off.
Standards of pay amongst maids does vary greatly i'll agree, but most I know pay 1500 - 1800 and that's for 5 days a week. Occassional babysitting and most with own room. Pay for 1 holiday home per year. Those that deliver under this average tend not to be Westerners but Arab/ Indian background employers. The same ones that apply the 'Bombay' principle that positiveRate876 condones.
I'm still waiting for your answer to my earlier question by the way!
Harry
Harry
You make a lot of assumptions when you post and the most recent two are fine examples. I, like Menard, choose not to have a maid. The ball & chain manages quite nicely on her own. Not only for house keeping but for the far more important task of raising our children. Although almost grown up now, the cost of leaving a vital job like this to an under qualified and inexperienced maid should not be underestimated. You can't put a price on that but some out there are happy for their kids to be 'moulded' by someone else for £200 a month. I can spot the maid raised kid a mile off.
Standards of pay amongst maids does vary greatly i'll agree, but most I know pay 1500 - 1800 and that's for 5 days a week. Occassional babysitting and most with own room. Pay for 1 holiday home per year. Those that deliver under this average tend not to be Westerners but Arab/ Indian background employers. The same ones that apply the 'Bombay' principle that positiveRate876 condones.
I'm still waiting for your answer to my earlier question by the way!
Harry
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