Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Worldwide > Middle East
Reload this Page >

No EY orders @ DXB

Wikiposts
Search
Middle East Many expats still flying in Knoteetingham. Regional issues can be discussed here.

No EY orders @ DXB

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12th Nov 2007, 05:14
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sand dune 3
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
No EY orders @ DXB

It seems very strange that EY have not gone ahead with aircraft orders at the DXB airshow....all its rivals have......hmmmm I wonder whats going on

Has Hogie had the purse strings cut?....or is another biggie about to be announced?
cantilever is offline  
Old 12th Nov 2007, 06:01
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Operations
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Was she hired for her ill manners and her vulgar demeanour?
Only in the Gulf!
Al Fakhem Snr. is offline  
Old 12th Nov 2007, 06:13
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bahrain
Age: 52
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
How can anyone in Abu Dhabi accept such vulgarity and low lifes in an outfit supposed to be so upmarket?

Low, plain low!
salahabuali is offline  
Old 12th Nov 2007, 09:33
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: world
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
has the airshow finished ????????!!!!!!!
priceless is offline  
Old 12th Nov 2007, 10:26
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Bahrain
Age: 52
Posts: 79
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Head of ops at Royal Jet
salahabuali is offline  
Old 13th Nov 2007, 03:07
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Magic Kingdom
Posts: 655
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Why exactly do they have to place an order this year?
Desert Diner is offline  
Old 13th Nov 2007, 05:39
  #7 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Sand dune 3
Posts: 80
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Crewing levels on the bus are still way off so maybe sense has prevailed...!

However it puts a bit of a dent in thier image as one of the big boys..EY & QR have shown who are the real players....and highlites the EY lack of vision and forward planning
There is also the rumour doung the rounds that they are looking at the old EK 777!....great for the image

Maybe GF have some old rustbickets we can buy!!!
cantilever is offline  
Old 13th Nov 2007, 12:43
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lisboa
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Would he not have loved to bask in the glory of yet another strategic order.....tough love but it ain't goin' to happen.

I can just see the little BMI minstrels in the back waiting to line their pockets with add-ons from engine types to cabin interiors.

guess it will have to wait.....
Mustapha Rex is offline  
Old 14th Nov 2007, 04:36
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: West Country
Posts: 1,271
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There is also the rumour doung the rounds that they are looking at the old EK 777!....great for the image
Surely given the reliability problems that EY have with their Airbus fleet then more 777's from whatever source would be a smart move - if it improves the despatch reliability then that has to be good for their 'image'
Jet II is offline  
Old 14th Nov 2007, 04:50
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Magic Kingdom
Posts: 655
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Imagine you and your neighbour.

He just ordered himself a shiny new Merc for his wife and is looking to sell her two year old Cadillac.

Your wife wants a new car as well but you can't afford that shiny new Merc at the moment. You can however, afford their second hand Caddy. The problem is whether your wife would be willing to be seen driving around in her neighbours old car.

It's as simple as that
Desert Diner is offline  
Old 14th Nov 2007, 08:33
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: usa
Age: 63
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
First time poster. Please bear with me as I try to understand the string.
AC's are on the ground? Without flight deck?? I may be not understanding something. The metal just does not show up overnight. Usually there is substantial lead times to prepare for deliveries. From what I understand the money is not the worst in the region. A myriad of errors are made for this type of oversite. Was there no planning for accommodations for projected numbers of crew, adequate number of schools? That is a direct result in poor planning and HR. No communication between the departments? In an accountable airline heads would role at the first loss of revenue. Revenue is the cornerstone to profits.....and profit share. I understand that sh##t happens but how does one explain to board members lost money that others are all too quck to capitalize on.
sondbird101 is offline  
Old 14th Nov 2007, 08:42
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Magic Kingdom
Posts: 655
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You have to be here for a while before you can even begin to even try to understand the "business"

But to be fair. Before you "condemn" the players out here, based on your point of reference, you might want to explain all the bancruptcies, the huge losses, the operation of 40+ y.o. aircraft that occurs in your neck of the woods.

Last edited by Desert Diner; 14th Nov 2007 at 09:33.
Desert Diner is offline  
Old 14th Nov 2007, 09:26
  #13 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: xxx
Posts: 33
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
sondbird101 do you think it works also for villas? because ek has nice compounds and at ey we are living in cheap flat
they even don t know how to copy.. i am quite sure they don t know that dubai airshow has started yet..
triple click is offline  
Old 14th Nov 2007, 09:32
  #14 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Magic Kingdom
Posts: 655
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
i am quite sure they don t know that dubai airshow has started yet..
Or perhaps they are waiting to announce it at the Abu Dhabi Airshow
Desert Diner is offline  
Old 14th Nov 2007, 10:33
  #15 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: usa
Age: 63
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Thanks Desert. Appreciate the insight. Lots more fact finding to do before getting into a deal that is not presented in full light.
sondbird101 is offline  
Old 14th Nov 2007, 11:13
  #16 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Magic Kingdom
Posts: 655
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Sond,

It wasn't meant as a slag.

It's just impossible to understand (or even explain) the "business" unless you are "living the dream" out here. It is completely alien if you are trying to figure it out from a US, or to a slightly lesser extent a Euro, point of reference.
Desert Diner is offline  
Old 14th Nov 2007, 15:10
  #17 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Lisboa
Posts: 128
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
The business is like any other business, it's just that EY currently stands low on anyone's wish list.
Mustapha Rex is offline  
Old 15th Nov 2007, 07:27
  #18 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: UAE
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Spot on noflare....
Yani Yani is offline  
Old 15th Nov 2007, 10:29
  #19 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Not here any more.
Posts: 646
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
EK has been sending queries to current EY pilots who had previously applied asking if they were still interested. Let the poaching begin. Etihad, watch out, Emirates is looking in your property.
NG_Kaptain is offline  
Old 15th Nov 2007, 14:03
  #20 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Landan!
Posts: 96
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Forward planning?

Any forward planning would be to seek refuge back home and pray that they stay out of harm's way.

You can run, but you can't hide!
gccpro is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.