New A/C for the goldan falcon
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A little off topic, when are the last B767 to be phased out and how many are currently still in operation?
Guess that they can only be phased out when some new/ used leased ac will join?
Guess that they can only be phased out when some new/ used leased ac will join?
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we need those new birds!!! two major failures over the last three days proves it and indeed demands it!!!! otherwise they will have to pay us test pilot salaries to keep flying these rust buckets.
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HUM...You poor buggers....rusty airframe operations or double engine failure operations.... when Gf did nearly all its own heavy maintenance in house in Bahrain we did not have these worries.
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so we getting new birds or not, and when????? surely someone knows something!!
the silence is deafening and it says a lot. i am going to conspire and take it that the new and imminent startup of lowcost 'bahrain air' may actually be affecting gf in a big way and we may be choking.
with the involvement of the royal family in this is surely going to stall gf's plans. their inaction will be costly.
the silence is deafening and it says a lot. i am going to conspire and take it that the new and imminent startup of lowcost 'bahrain air' may actually be affecting gf in a big way and we may be choking.
with the involvement of the royal family in this is surely going to stall gf's plans. their inaction will be costly.
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U better ask Fadac who talked personally to BN and assured him that a decision is coming in the next few weeks. Thus was last month and we are already a few weeks later with no news in the horizon.
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i am refusing to let this thread fall to the next page. the silence by our fearless leader is deafening.
BN,
A FEW WEEKS HAD LAPSED SINCE YOUR BIG ANNOUNCEMENT ANNOUNCEMENT. WILL WEEKS TURN INTO MONTHS, AND MONTHS INTO YEARS? WE HAVE HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE FROM SEVERAL OF YOUR PREDECESSORS.
INSTEAD, YOU ARE BUSY SUGAR-COATING AND BUTTERING-UP STAFF BY PUTTING THEIR FACES WHERE THE EX-PRESIDENTS USED TO BE FOR THEIR SMALL CONTRIBUTIONS. THERE SHOULD BE ONLY ONE FACE THERE...THE ONE WHO TURNS GF AROUND. MOST WERE HOPING IT WOULD BE YOURS.
YOU SHOULD SIT IN THE FLIGHT DECKS ON MOST OF OUR FLIGHTS AND MARVEL AT THE AMOUNT OF U/S ITEMS WE HAVE TO TAKE TO AIR WITH THE ADDED STRESS INVOLVED. THE RECENT PAYRISE FADES TO OBSCURITY ALL OF A SUDDEN.
IS THERE EVEN NEW PLANES IN THE PIPELINE? OR IS IT ONLY A MYTH?
BN,
A FEW WEEKS HAD LAPSED SINCE YOUR BIG ANNOUNCEMENT ANNOUNCEMENT. WILL WEEKS TURN INTO MONTHS, AND MONTHS INTO YEARS? WE HAVE HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE FROM SEVERAL OF YOUR PREDECESSORS.
INSTEAD, YOU ARE BUSY SUGAR-COATING AND BUTTERING-UP STAFF BY PUTTING THEIR FACES WHERE THE EX-PRESIDENTS USED TO BE FOR THEIR SMALL CONTRIBUTIONS. THERE SHOULD BE ONLY ONE FACE THERE...THE ONE WHO TURNS GF AROUND. MOST WERE HOPING IT WOULD BE YOURS.
YOU SHOULD SIT IN THE FLIGHT DECKS ON MOST OF OUR FLIGHTS AND MARVEL AT THE AMOUNT OF U/S ITEMS WE HAVE TO TAKE TO AIR WITH THE ADDED STRESS INVOLVED. THE RECENT PAYRISE FADES TO OBSCURITY ALL OF A SUDDEN.
IS THERE EVEN NEW PLANES IN THE PIPELINE? OR IS IT ONLY A MYTH?
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Brassplate, if flying new aircraft means so much to you why don't you do what the rest of us have done and leave GF? Gulf Air will never be in a position to re-equip, the best they could hope for is to pick up some second hand 777/330s in a few years when another carrier gets rid of them.
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BULLCRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Brassplate, and others, can complain about the poor equipment or anything else they wish to.
The arguement from management and, too often, other employees is that if you don't like it (ie. are complaining) then leave. Provided your complaint is legitimate and well spoken there is no reason to keep quite.
The refrain of 'leave if you don't like it' comes from those who either have no intellectual response or have no clue what they are talking about. Their simplistic response is an attempt o get people to shut up - too bad it works so often.
The arguement from management and, too often, other employees is that if you don't like it (ie. are complaining) then leave. Provided your complaint is legitimate and well spoken there is no reason to keep quite.
The refrain of 'leave if you don't like it' comes from those who either have no intellectual response or have no clue what they are talking about. Their simplistic response is an attempt o get people to shut up - too bad it works so often.
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thank you TRADER.
gf pilots are constantly in a catch-22 situation, damned if you do, damned if you don't.
if you refuse to fly their planes because of upwards of 10 MDDs and countless other ADDs, there is enormous pressure from all corners to get you to accept the flight. if you still refuse, an appointment with the chief pilot ensues and quite often, another captain is called in who will accept the aircraft. more often than not, it it usually one of the younger and less experienced captains who is out there to prove himself.
if you accept the aircraft and a major fairlure occurs, you're still screwed and those who had pressured you to take the flight all scatter and cower for cover.
gf pilots are constantly in a catch-22 situation, damned if you do, damned if you don't.
if you refuse to fly their planes because of upwards of 10 MDDs and countless other ADDs, there is enormous pressure from all corners to get you to accept the flight. if you still refuse, an appointment with the chief pilot ensues and quite often, another captain is called in who will accept the aircraft. more often than not, it it usually one of the younger and less experienced captains who is out there to prove himself.
if you accept the aircraft and a major fairlure occurs, you're still screwed and those who had pressured you to take the flight all scatter and cower for cover.
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isn't it funny when an important thread like the ones i have posted regarding safety issues regarding gf's aging fleet slowly sinks to the bottom of the first page of this forum because of 1-5 posters trying to obliterate it with stupid questions in brand new threads? well, i'll be putting an end to that by posting every frickin' day and ensuring the issue of gf needing new birds remain a hot topic in this forum.
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Hear, hear Brassplate.
I am sure the IOSA auditors or our codeshare partners skim through these sites. When public pressure mounts from the authorities then maybe something will be done.
I am sure the IOSA auditors or our codeshare partners skim through these sites. When public pressure mounts from the authorities then maybe something will be done.
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As a pax reading these pages...I'd like to say I already totally avoid the GF 767's and if need be i'll avoid the 340/330
..im not risking my life and paying to do so! Seems my only next alternative is seek a new carrier to ferry me around the GCC/Europe.
Maybe GF will be smart enough to snap up QR's 4 A346's next year if they are truely serious about upgrading the fleet.
PS Wonder why QR is getting rid of em-is the A346 a dud ac?
Oddy
..im not risking my life and paying to do so! Seems my only next alternative is seek a new carrier to ferry me around the GCC/Europe.Maybe GF will be smart enough to snap up QR's 4 A346's next year if they are truely serious about upgrading the fleet.
PS Wonder why QR is getting rid of em-is the A346 a dud ac?
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Rumour has it the 340-6 is not as fuel efficient as the 777-300ER, which has nearly the same capacity....but have no specific numbers to support that...somebody here shed some light on this???
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Rumour has it the 340-6 is not as fuel efficient as the 777-300ER
That seems to be the general consensus. It hasn't taken the market the way Airbus hoped and the operators, in general, don't seem to be too keen on the plane.
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the only saving would be the etops side of things being 4 holed. but having 4 big screws munching on that expensive fuel should be a penalty. BUT, if they're new, GF SHOULD GET THEM!!!!
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The A340-600 can not be to bad, as Lufthansa has placed orders for this aircraft 3 times, orders now stand at 24 Aircraft (17 already delivered) and they do not seem to have any incidents with it. Also IB and VS seem to be happy with them.
So GF should get them from QR as the four 346 from QR have been built in 2006 and 2007.
So GF should get them from QR as the four 346 from QR have been built in 2006 and 2007.
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To Brassplate
GF should take all 4 of the A340-600's off QR. To quote stefan1138 "They can't be that bad". I have to agree because we all know the old saying BEGGERS CAN'T BE..........
