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GF would be better off to re-enlist some old tri-stars than to get those boat anchors....we dont go that far away anyway....DC-8-73 on steroids that thing is...
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I for one would be delighted to see SYD back on the GF map should they need justification to aquire an A346
Can this bird do a BAH-SYD non stop? and would it be viable seeing EK and EY do it from the Gulf(let alone QR's ambitions to do so from MEL)
Can this bird do a BAH-SYD non stop? and would it be viable seeing EK and EY do it from the Gulf(let alone QR's ambitions to do so from MEL)
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Any fleet of less than ten (10) airplanes is not cost effective, and while some don't have this immediate concern, some of us do....wish we were all in the same boat here....yes the 340-5/6 could take us non-stop to Oz....and loads of us here dream of this....can't see this in the cards here at GF....uless of course the price is right for the machines....kind of see this machine in the same light as the 767-400, and the 757-300....all great machines...for a specific mission...do carriers here in the gulf REALLY optimise machines to the mission???
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What We Waitting For
Any news or rumours........weeks turned into months.........what they waitting for..........we can not go like that forever.....last week 10 A/C grounded with two major TECH.......eng failure in the crz and flap problem at lndg...........what more......are we waitting for another GF072.................ships getting old.............wake up bords as
ho........i am sure your families are not travilling with GF other wise you cared.......................... HEY AAB what's up , looking for me...... i am the one who's run away with your egyption girl friend......if need more info PM me ....chaow....
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[QUOTE]some old tri-stars than to get those boat anchors...[QUOTE]
Expect at least one, possibly two TriStar's to be wet leased-in rather soon.
Back to the future...
Expect at least one, possibly two TriStar's to be wet leased-in rather soon.
Back to the future...
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Icarus thanks
Icarus thanks for input what he ment was another accident.
because i dont think the board will be happy too.
If anything happen they will share responsibility in front of all the media.
because i dont think the board will be happy too.
If anything happen they will share responsibility in front of all the media.
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hey icars or which ever you called your self..........the gf072 is happened in 2000......now we are approching 2008 ......aircrafts some of them now more than 15 years old......so even if you put an ace on them you can not prevent an accident ......so this the right time to change and replace the ships
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fatal gulfy- i agree they are getting old and for our sake and customers we need new aircraft.
But..."so even if you put an ace on them you can not prevent an accident"
this is complete BS. AA is still flying MD 80's around safely!!!! 767 are a proven safe aircraft if taken care of properly. 320's in north america are still considered a relatively "new" aircraft. i understand how is gets frustrating at GF but please dont tell me that becasue we fly older 767 and 320/30/40 it is an accident waiting to happen. If our planes are taken care of and crews trained properly these aircraft are just fine in the safety department.
Fact is new aircraft order will solidify us in market and boost our beliefs at GF. It is a business decision with many factors.
But..."so even if you put an ace on them you can not prevent an accident"
this is complete BS. AA is still flying MD 80's around safely!!!! 767 are a proven safe aircraft if taken care of properly. 320's in north america are still considered a relatively "new" aircraft. i understand how is gets frustrating at GF but please dont tell me that becasue we fly older 767 and 320/30/40 it is an accident waiting to happen. If our planes are taken care of and crews trained properly these aircraft are just fine in the safety department.
Fact is new aircraft order will solidify us in market and boost our beliefs at GF. It is a business decision with many factors.
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As far as I am am aware it is only two - due in March and April.
Rather Too Small & Fatal:
Old aircraft DO NOT = ACCIDENT
Old Aircraft do not mean 'an accident waiting to happen' as DH reiterates. New aircraft are just a susceptible to being pranged if driven improperly.
Fatal - I'm curious from reading a lot of your posts; any chance of sharing your psychometric results? I'd love to see 'em.
Rather Too Small & Fatal:
Old aircraft DO NOT = ACCIDENT
Old Aircraft do not mean 'an accident waiting to happen' as DH reiterates. New aircraft are just a susceptible to being pranged if driven improperly.
Fatal - I'm curious from reading a lot of your posts; any chance of sharing your psychometric results? I'd love to see 'em.
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Driving an Old Morris Minor or the latest Porche does not make you prone for more accidents.
It depends on the state of mind of the DRIVER.!!!!!
NEW porches still crash and turn upside down .
I can agree an Old Morris might take too much from certain people to dirve safely.BUT ARENT WE ALL PROFESSIONAL ???
It depends on the state of mind of the DRIVER.!!!!!
NEW porches still crash and turn upside down .
I can agree an Old Morris might take too much from certain people to dirve safely.BUT ARENT WE ALL PROFESSIONAL ???
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isn't it all about risk management? we fly with mdds because the type allows for some of those for a prescribed time, thereby minimising risk. being rust buckets as they are, there are way too many of these mdds that continue up to months before anything is done about them.
the allowable prescribed time frame is abused and extended by loopholes, ignorance, laziness, whatever, time and time again and the normal redundancies of these aircrafts that make them REALLY safe becomes eroded by gf engineering's way of doing things and many other reasons.
of course, some mdds increase the load on pilots, possibly to the point that if an event took place coupled with other pressures, they would be overwhelmed.
so please, if anyone thinks these planes are safer than newer machines, explain yourself.
the allowable prescribed time frame is abused and extended by loopholes, ignorance, laziness, whatever, time and time again and the normal redundancies of these aircrafts that make them REALLY safe becomes eroded by gf engineering's way of doing things and many other reasons.
of course, some mdds increase the load on pilots, possibly to the point that if an event took place coupled with other pressures, they would be overwhelmed.
so please, if anyone thinks these planes are safer than newer machines, explain yourself.
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Boilermaker: Must be the time of year, "Goodwill to all Men" and all that. We can pick up again after the New Year I'm sure!
In the meantime.... Seasons Greetings.
In the meantime.... Seasons Greetings.
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