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Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 21st Jun 2010, 18:42
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john_smith

the actual narrative report written by the TRE, is what they want.

it's not a go/no go document, so don't worry about it to much
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Poisoned by Compromise
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Old 25th Jun 2010, 14:48
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John Smith

Settle down buddy!

There are parts of the world where guys with a lot more time are still driving cessnas because they are considered to have insufficient experience. The fact that you are flying a bus at less than grand should be cause for you to wake in the morning, get on your knees and thank whoever you pray to.

Remember, minimum requirements are just that. Above it is something called competitive requirements. Thats the level where most airlines recruit.

Stay where you are........build your experience....then start your voyage to the new world, Captain.
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Old 26th Jun 2010, 05:45
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If Qatar Airways are willing to employ Utah for 3 years and the QANTAS EBA allows it then he is able to do it. However Utah's perceived actions of saving more junior pilots positions at QF is irrelevant to others when he is willing to take a position and seniority at another airline for a 'world tour'. 1000 hrs A330? Unfortunately getting the ATIS and sitting in the high chair doing the radio isn't 1000 hrs A330.

This reminds me of the QANTAS Second Officer that would take LWOP during the Gulf prawn spotting season. Flying a Baron while the GA multi engine desperados looked on with gritted teeth....
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Old 26th Jun 2010, 11:36
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Does anyone know if Qatar does interviews in other places than Miami and Doha?
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Old 28th Jun 2010, 20:03
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Roadshow

Cap Krunch : any roadshow in South América ?
Thank You
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Old 29th Jun 2010, 12:46
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Dropped entry requirements

I see Qatar has dropped their entry requirements from 2000TT to 1000 Jet. Does this mean they are struggling to find FO's to fill the seats of their narrow and wide body fleets?
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Old 29th Jun 2010, 14:14
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Do you see any other reason to drop the requirement? I don't.

Shit & unfair Roster (A-320!)-a Mafia Spoiling the entire jeppensen system-seniority not reward-Not a single confirmed annual leave ticket(i you dare to take your well deserved leave during summer time or any other "high" period-No consideration-No thanks-Management only waiting for you to do the first mistake to punish you-one of the lowest wage/conditon compared to our neighbouring rival here in the gulf....
What do you expect.....

Last edited by loc22550; 29th Jun 2010 at 19:27.
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Old 29th Jun 2010, 19:26
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Dude why dont you jus leave, Mo fo??? sick n tired of your bitchin!!!!
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Old 29th Jun 2010, 19:42
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Cruisin..:
Next time come here with usefull informations instead of just blaming people who rise true fact and issue.
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Old 30th Jun 2010, 02:23
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Cheap First Officers to come ( Second Officer now is a guy with 1500 hs of MCC turboprop,WOW) WTF!!!!!!

That,apart from reducing the min for First officers to 1000 TT and can include fighter pilots (High Performance Military Jets ) ,lol.

Flight Deck Crew Requirements | Qatar Airways


Second Officers - Fast Track
Minimum of 1,500 hours in Modern Multi Pilot Turbo-Prop greater than 12,000kg MTOW
Valid ICAO ATPL or Frozen ATPL
Valid Class 1 Medical.
ICAO English Proficiency Minimum level 4.
Age below 35 years.

People who waited for raise in the salary will in reality see a new lower salary
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Old 30th Jun 2010, 10:47
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well said krugerflap

i think the same - there were rumors last year about an increase nothing happened - this year, well rumors - nothing but rumors

and why should they increase the salary? punch of new people coming every month (especially on 330 and 777 passing by the guys from 320 and 300), and somebody wrote earlier, because they NEED the job, so why?

situation will get worse instead of better, rostering mafia screwing everything, new leave system a joke, no more 4 off days in a row and and and

doha - well, just come and see

cheers
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Old 30th Jun 2010, 10:58
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loc22550

Sorry to see you guys are clearly frustrated there...

For some of us, Qatar is the ONLY option left-its this or allow my ATPL license to expire. I was made redundant 10 months ago and have had no luck in getting another job due to the current climate here in Europe.

So... while it may be terrible there for you, its going to be a whole lot better than what I have going for me at the moment. I'm certain i'm not the only person in this situation. So please...Give us a bit of slack. ---Everything you are saying now has been said a million times in the previous hundred or so pages!


(I have 3000TT, Jet, and I applied 2 months ago, haven't heard a thing, and am obviously confused now the requirements have been dropped, as they stand i now more than meet the minimum requirements and still haven't got a call)
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Old 30th Jun 2010, 14:15
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Be careful what you wish for...

Will your family be joining you in Doha?

When I answered this question the interview was clearly over. The interviewer, a Brit, began to drill down. If we hire you there is a 99.9% chance you will be an FO on the A320, not the 777. When will you see your family?

From what I read in this forum, why would I subject my family to 30 days a month in Doha when I will only be there for 8? Why should they be made to suffer because of where I choose to work?

Mine was an honest answer. His response though was quite telling. Clearly they want a captive workforce. It is then impossible for the unhappy pilot to get off the airplane in London with no intention of returning while his family is being held hostage in Doha.
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Old 30th Jun 2010, 16:52
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it is a cage here, you are right. all they want is, that you work, family, your interests, friends are another thing.

i do not mind working, not at all, but at least give something back - if you want something from rostering it is 100% not possible unless you go to your chief pilot, ask for permission - takes too much effort and too much time
on the other hand, if they want something from you, you have to do it, without asking - if you ask, you will get in trouble sooner or later.

and to you foreveryoung: obviously nobody briefed you, that they do not want to hear the truth or be yourself - be honest
anyway, i think you will not miss it

good luck with your career
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Old 30th Jun 2010, 19:02
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Hello,

What can a first year FO bring each month at Qatar, and what other benefits are provided such as lodging and school for children.

thanks
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Old 30th Jun 2010, 19:26
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You could just look on PPJN, but...

Basic for an F/O/month
18000 QR
10000 QR or Accom (for F/O you have no choice..pretty much)
1500 Transport
300 Utilities

50000 QR Education up to 3 kids, but that is total not per child.

Depending on fleet flying pay per month once established about 8000 QR.

Most Europeans have been left with no choice and accept it's either a long-distance relationship or move them over and enjoy the pool.

If you are single and want to meet women remember this fact: 350000 women, 1.2 million men. 'Ladies Day' over here tend to become sausage fests. Nice...
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Old 1st Jul 2010, 20:46
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Can anyone give me info on the second officer - 'fast track' positions at Qatar?
How fast is fast track? Or to put it another way how many hours would you need as a second officer to get a 'promotion'? And im guessing you would be a SO on a Widebody then offered a position as a FO on the 320 fleet? Also whats the SO pay like?

Tried the search function/google/and Qatar website and found nada!

Rgds
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 00:05
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'Ladies Day' over here tend to become sausage fests.
Well that's great if you're German !


it is a cage here, you are right. all they want is, that you work, family, your interests, friends are another thing.
I've worked for several other airlines and none of them have given a sh*t about any of the above, most employers don't !!!


I think the dropping in requirements for second officers doesn't mean no raise in salary - they obviously can't recruit enough people !!
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 00:54
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just think is it really as bad as all the people moaning on hear say - it just seems to be the same 5 or 6 sad fuc*ers every time on here. Because they have no real life outside of this website.

There must be almost 2000 pilots here - is every single one of them unhappy ?? no just they same old whingers on here, have a look back - you will see only 5 or 6 of the same names on here complaining - please get a life, then you might not complain - there are lots of attractive crew here - just find a nice one to fu*k and chill out.................................
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Old 2nd Jul 2010, 00:59
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For any Americans who have interviewed at QR, did everyone have their ATPL? OR did anyone get a call with Comm-ME/I and ATP Written completed? Sorry, we don't have a "frozen" ATPL in America, so I'm trying to gauge if it's still okay to apply to QR with a Comm-ME/I and ATP Written completed.
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