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Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 4th Dec 2013, 01:04
  #6821 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: united states
Posts: 94
To Casablanca..

Ok sorry...I assumed from what I was reading that 2 or 3 days in a row was all that you get.I'm from US as well.No probably would not return to US every time but there's other places I may want to go just to get out of the sand box,So you're saying you can get maybe up to 10 days in a row.....well the that's not too bad.

I understand the first two or three months you can't leave training etc,thats true everywhere, just wanted to be able to get out sometime.
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Old 4th Dec 2013, 03:09
  #6822 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Doha, Qatar
Age: 51
Posts: 433
The 10 days off is not a guarantee, but at least on the triple 7 that has been the norm for me, at least since I finished line training end of May.
I often see pilots just going to Thailand or someplace for few days to get out of town
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Old 4th Dec 2013, 07:00
  #6823 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: venus
Posts: 407
Jet-Stream,

Regarding scholarships for locals, some of the locals ( pilots) have already been selected to enroll such a course as aviation management and already start it.

Not convinced though about your "optimism" For the pay rise remark.

Last edited by salamalikum2; 4th Dec 2013 at 07:17.
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Old 4th Dec 2013, 12:54
  #6824 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: I wish I knew
Posts: 250
@ Jetstream:

there isn't a pilot shortage.
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Old 4th Dec 2013, 18:34
  #6825 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: egll
Posts: 322
Hi Guys.

I was wandering if someone can help me. I'm considering applying to the qatar airways mpl with ctc wings. It seems like a good programme at face value (except the price !!).
My question is regards to the pat test. I'm aware that any normal applicant only has one attempt at doing the qatar pat test, but does anyone know if this one try only rule also applies to cadets ?. Because if it does then it means over £105,000 down the drain and nothing gained (if the cadet failed first time), as my mpl would only be valid with qatar along with a TR.
Thank you

regards
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 04:28
  #6826 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: CYYZ
Posts: 271
Go get a normal entry flying job and build some experience,
then apply as a FO. Don't be their bitch and play their stupid game.
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 05:30
  #6827 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: An alluminum tube with wings!
Posts: 4
Hi salamalikum2!

Sure, they can start their courses now but it's about 15 years too late, Nevertheless, it's a good start for the next generations of Qataries. And I hope that as a special favour to the aviation industry the Little Big Chief would tag along too! It never too late!

I know you've been here a while too and we've seen this story over and over again...I believe more money is coming!

@South Prince

You are right, there is no pilot shortage - there's just a shortage of pilots!
Here's some reading for you;

Airlines hire pilots as shortage looms

Last edited by Jet-Stream; 5th Dec 2013 at 20:24.
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 10:36
  #6828 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: egll
Posts: 322
"Go get a normal entry flying job and build some experience"

I would love to. Though where can these jobs be found ?, as far as i'm aware there is nothing out there for fresh, untagged fatpl holders (around 250 hrs) without having to fork out at least another 25,000 or so for TR.

"Don't be their bitch and play their stupid game."

seriously ?

Btw, can anyone else please answer the question asked ?

Thanks.
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 11:18
  #6829 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: why do you care
Posts: 25
A whole lot of flying in the world besides airline flying to build your flying experience. This is what we call entry level. Do your research and pay your dues like most already have in the industry.
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 11:27
  #6830 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Between East and West
Posts: 7
Also got invited for the 2 day assessment. I am 737NG rated with around 1200hrs on type. A very general ambigious question: what to expect from the PAT ADAPT, aptitude test and presentation? Apparantly they will send the details one week in advance, but I know that won't be enough considering the fact I will be flying a lot those days (considering the days off I had to request to be able to attend the assessment).
Thanks in advance
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 11:36
  #6831 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: egll
Posts: 322
who are you to judge what research i have done ? "pay your dues like most already have in the industry", Why do you feel i'm cheating everyone by trying to go straight on an airline programme . I'm being realistic and want to do something sustainable.I love flying and want to do it for living, otherwise i would just stay at ppl level and do it for free. Where is the logic in paying for a cpl/ir and not trying to get into airline flying !?!? Chip on our shoulder have we ?
Do you really expect me to spend loads of money just to go bushflying or something like that only because some people before me did something similar and now can't get an airline job ?, well THAT'S LIFE.
I love flying and want to do it for LIVING, if not I suppose those loan repayments are gonna pay themselves are they ?
Don't for one second try and tell me that if you had the chance to join an airline straight away you wouldn't have !! there are many more schemes than qatar that pose less risk and i'm just trying to weigh up my options.

Wow you are one miserable bitter lot !!! ain't ever coming back here,
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 12:15
  #6832 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: toronto
Posts: 22
chill man take both sides and come up with your own approach...
noone is telling you not to wait just be productive while u are at it
and be prepared to do what ever it takes "if thats what u want" i know ppl that took it from scheduling to dispatch then right seat and others were cabin crew "Females"
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 13:17
  #6833 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: why do you care
Posts: 25
Little man has got a bit of growing up to do. Go ahead and spend 100,000 and sit at home and wait for that airline call like the other hundreds of wanna be guys like you do.
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 13:53
  #6834 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: CYYZ
Posts: 271
A few good hard years of bush flying is EXACTLY what you need
momo95. I can tell already it would do you a world of good, both
in skill and personality.
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Old 5th Dec 2013, 21:56
  #6835 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Washington DC, USA
Posts: 7
they don't know my FAA ATPL means im instrument rated..

Hey are there any pilots applying to QR with an FAA ATPL?

I have submitted all my paperwork and they replied saying "please provide proof of an instrument rating" and placed my application in an 'incomplete' status.

The FAA ATPL, doesn't specifically say "Instrument Airplane" because it is already a pre-requisite to have an instrument rating to get an FAA ATPL...

A friend there said that its probably an un-knowledgable office assistant that won't let my application go further until they see the actual words "instrument airplane"

Has anyone ever heard of this problem with QR before?
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 04:47
  #6836 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: KUL
Posts: 59
fish

Ahaha..yea..there are lotsa ppl like u momo..let me tell u this..consider urself lucky if u can get airline pilot job right after ur ab initio..i really seriously dont want to judge u..but from ur writing,u wont last long in airlines bro..its not really rainbows n buttefflies..i honestly respect those bush pilots more than airlines pilots..they still have their atpl knowledge intact in their brains when most airline pilots will lose it within 1 or 2 years after online..
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 05:23
  #6837 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 10
DonAlejandro what keep you ATPL valid? A class 1 medical and a IFR test ride (ppc) no?
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 06:34
  #6838 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Surrounded by aluminum, and the great outdoors
Posts: 3,787
Don…have a recent 121 ride? send the copy…they want instrument CURRENCY
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 07:37
  #6839 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 19
Tech info pls.

If anyone has any info regarding DEC interviews, tech and general knowledge questions for any of the 3 big Gulf carriers, would you please be kind enough to email me please. Many thanks in advance. Qatar, EY and EK please.
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Old 6th Dec 2013, 10:25
  #6840 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Doha, Qatar
Age: 51
Posts: 433
There is or was a link on the FAA.gov website that allowed you to pull up your airman certificates etc...I remember the ATP rating saying something about the instrument rating not being listed seperately as that is a prerequisite and understood....
You might want to get a copy of that but as someone mentioned, if you use the dates from your last proficiency check, it should work
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