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Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 17th Sep 2013, 02:04
  #6561 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: KUL
Posts: 59
hi guys..i posted about this few days ago but mayb i didnt click post or what i dont see it anywhere in the thread anymore..so i got an email saying they'll invite me for interview but ni date was given..its been almost 2 weeks since..yet no news from them..anyone experiencing the same?how long should i wait anyway?
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 02:38
  #6562 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Location
Posts: 29
Hi people,

Is there a booklet available as a pdf of the relevant information for PATS assignment or can anyone suggest a website we can use to practise on?

I have just received e mails in regards to picking a date to do my assignment in Doha. I haven't confirmed yet.

Help would me much appreciated..
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 02:44
  #6563 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: KUL
Posts: 59
thats great..im still waiting for my interview date..u can do the question bank on ACE the technical pilot interview book..i read that book and i think they picked all the question from the book..anyway how long u waited till they give the date?
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 02:51
  #6564 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Location
Posts: 29
Interviewed and Sim September 2012.

I am now required to go back over to Doha to Complete PATS course only before i get a letter of offer..

So I guess it will be the final hurdle for me.
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 05:49
  #6565 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: europe
Posts: 15
Congrats

Hi flyingmachine, are you type rated or non type?
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 07:13
  #6566 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Location
Posts: 29
non type rated....
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 07:26
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Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: KUL
Posts: 59
then i think its gonna be quite some times b4 i get my interview date eh..
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 10:24
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Where aviation management replaces common sense
Posts: 70
PAT

So many paranoid PAT Q's.


Flight Operations Department

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PILOT APTITUDE TESTING POLICY

PILOT APTITUDE TESTS are psychometric tests specifically designed to assess competencies of pilots. The results form important references for the Management to develop training plans to assist pilots recognize their strengths and develop their weaknesses in order to attain enhanced safety and productivity in new positions.

GENERAL

PAT results assist in highlighting competencies of pilots which facilitate the individuals to understand their capabilities and further help in professional and personal career development.

PURPOSE

⇒ To identify strengths and area of improvement of pilots

SCOPE OF ACTIVITY

⇒ To prepare a development plan for pilots for achieving a company required standard ⇒ To determine suitability for a particular position

1. Management Pilot Appointment (first time)

CATEGORY FOR ASSESSMENT

2. Training Appointment (first time) 3. Command Upgrade 4. Fleet Transfer (New type introduction to the Company only e.g. A380, not required for type variant transfer)

⇒ PAT will be a requirement for pilots joining the company as part of the recruitment process, in addition to all pilots falling into the above categories

GUIDELINES

⇒ New hire pilots mentioned above, not meeting the company PAT requirements will be considered unsuitable for employment. ⇒ The present role / position of any existing pilot not meeting the company PAT criteria will not be affected. ⇒ All pilots employed before 01 March 2013 are encouraged to volunteer to take the PAT,will be allowed to do so and unsuccessful completion of PAT will have no impact on their existing role / position ⇒ Different colours denotes the strength of the grade; • GREEN – High grade • BLUE – Above Average grade • HIGH YELLOW – Average grade (No safety issues, only minor training) • LOW YELLOW or AMBER– Below Average grade ( Safety issues/ training issues) • RED – Low Grade ( Safety issues/training)

Flight Operations Department

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In order to preserve the confidentiality of PAT assessments, for those individuals graded HIGH YELLOW or above only a SUMMARY of strengths and areas for improvement will be disclosed to Fleet Managers and Senior Managers Fleets. A record of such PAT results will be maintained in a confidential file by HR. Individuals scoring LOW YELLOW, AMBER or RED will be referred to the company psychologist, who will be furnished with a full copy of the PAT assessment for evaluation. Again the PAT results will be maintained by HR in a confidential file.

CONFIDENTIALITY

⇒ Pilots being considered for a Management position or selected for Command Upgrade or Fleet Transfer to a new type (to the company) will be rostered for PAT (will be shown on roster as PAT)

PROCEDURE

⇒ Pilots will be contacted by Symbiotic Team who conducts PAT on behalf of the company. ⇒ PAT assessments will be conducted at a suitable location. ⇒ PAT will comprise of a cognitive test, an interview and personality questionnaire

PROCEDURE FOR PILOTS WHO OBTAIN RESULT IN GREEN, BLUE or HIGH YELLOW

⇒ As a general rule Green, Blue or High Yellow results indicate suitability for the position.

⇒ The results from the tests are presented to the company in the format as described in the above confidentiality section.

⇒ Results of grades denoted in Green, Blue and High Yellow will be sent to the respective Fleet Managers who will be responsible for debriefing the individual on strengths and areas for improvement and if deemed necessary assign development courses. Thereafter the summary reports will be forwarded to VPFO / CPF

Flight Operations Department

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PROCEDURE FOR PILOTS WHO OBTAIN RESULT IN RED, AMBER or LOW YELLOW

⇒ As a general rule, RED, AMBER or LOW YELLOW indicates that the candidate is unsuitable for the position at the time of the test.

⇒ These results will be reviewed by the CPF and/or VPFO who will brief the pilot and then forward the results to QRMC for further psychological review.

⇒ The recommendations of the QRMC Psychologist along with the PAT Results and other performance records e.g. Training reports and personal file records will be reviewed by CPF and/or VPFO or their designee who will determine an appropriate course of action. The Senior Manager (Fleets) or his designee will then conduct a debrief of the pilot and direct that the recommendations be implemented.

This can include, but is not limited to; • Remedial training requirements ( if appropriate) • If appropriate, an indication that remedial action is not being considered and that the candidate is frozen in their current position • Minimum time and requirements for a retest a) Command Upgrade – To be determined by respective Fleet Manager, but one year minimum prior to reassessment. (PAT considered part of the Command Upgrade assessment process.)

b) Fleet Transfer –To be determined by respective Fleet Manager, but minimum of 6 months.

c) Training - To be determined by respective Fleet/Training Manager, but minimum of 6 months

d) Management – To be determined by CPF/VPFO/CFOO but minimum 6 months prior to be considered for another management position.

e) New Hire - Not recommended for employment
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 15:05
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Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Australia
Age: 33
Posts: 23
I am still waiting the Update for September...Did you receive it ?

Some of you past INTERVIEW/SIM the 10th Of SEPT 2012 ???

still waiting some news.

Regards,
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Old 17th Sep 2013, 23:40
  #6570 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Moon
Age: 42
Posts: 135
I did pass interview/Sim september 10th and Sept 11th got successful email, today got an email from some UK company for background checks.

NTR Widebody DEC

Best Regards
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Old 18th Sep 2013, 03:29
  #6571 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: In the cloud
Posts: 53
Congrats Mr. White,

What was the title of the email? I passed the interview before you, but as TR FO, so wondering if the mail from the UK company ended up in the junk mail or it just takes longer to get it for FOs.

Any FOs who recently passed the interview received a mail for the background check? How long time did it take from successful to that email?
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Old 18th Sep 2013, 03:48
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Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: new york
Posts: 82
I never heard they do any background check ,maybe they have just added this step.
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Old 18th Sep 2013, 07:03
  #6573 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: europe
Posts: 15
Congrats supersonic75

Hi supersonic75 when did you get the joining date? What plane were you flying?
Thanks
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Old 18th Sep 2013, 22:21
  #6574 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Moon
Age: 42
Posts: 135
Tks, the email title was Hireright and it was not in the junk.

During HR presentation told us about this background screening for successful candidates.

Just waiting for some news.

Best Regards
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 01:51
  #6575 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: new york
Posts: 82
You don't have to do the PAT test , I know a lot of people that got accepted with out doing PAT or background test and they are flying at Qatar Airways.
I don't know why they only ask certain people about taking this PAT test
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 04:28
  #6576 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: NZ
Posts: 49
When did they start mmorel? Before or after, March when the PAT started?

Does this mean ppl in the talent pool will be invited back to Doha to do the test or will they do it when they join?
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 17:47
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Join Date: May 2013
Location: sky
Posts: 51
I think those who were interviewed before 1st april or march 2012 were offered letters.and when they signed then they are not bound to go for PAT . those who did after that are undergoing pat. Any TR waiting since 2012 ?
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Old 19th Sep 2013, 20:18
  #6578 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: new york
Posts: 82
I know one person who did the interview in FEB 2013,good news in April and joining data was June and he did not take the PAT test.
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Old 23rd Sep 2013, 08:12
  #6579 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: everywhere
Posts: 77
September update

Hi All!
Just received the September update.
No major changes compared to the last one.
Basically they only need type rated people, ocassionally a non type rated one. No requirement for SO, nor FTSO. But... it can change.
The next update is in January.
I guess I won't be seeing you in Doha, but...it can change.
Cheers
Cccc
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Old 23rd Sep 2013, 11:12
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: miles away 'avin some wasabi
Posts: 17
september update - what a shame... DEAR APPLICANT
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