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Old 16th Nov 2012, 20:08
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 04:16
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For all those folks who believe that a "Good News Letter" from Qatar Airways means that a job will eventually happen, you'd better read the following three emails from QR, including the "Good News Letter" on July 16. For all those in the hold pool, keep looking for another job!!!


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From: Flight Deck Recruitment <[email protected]>
Subject: Application of employment
Date: 14 November 2012
To:

Dear,

Thank you for your application for a Flight Deck Crew position with Qatar Airways and for taking the time to attend our selection program.

We regret to advise that, on this occasion, we are not able to progress with your application.

Thank you for your interest in Qatar Airways. We wish you the very best of luck for the future.



Best Regards

Flight Deck Recruitment Team


World’s 5-star airline qatarairways.com

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From: Tala Harith Mustafa <[email protected]>
Date: 16 July 2012
Subject: Application for employment
To:


Dear Mr.,
We refer to your application for the position of Captain with Qatar Airways. We are delighted to inform you that you have successfully passed the Qatar Airways Flight Deck selection process.
The next step in the process is for us to gain approval for your appointment. Following this we will issue a formal offer of employment which should take no more than 6 weeks. This letter will be your formal offer of employment and will also contain your fleet allocation.
We will then allocate you a joining date. This joining date will be anywhere from one to six months ahead and is based on your notice period and our operational requirement at the time. Your delayed joining date is to assist us in identifying the appropriate fleet and training schedule for you. Please do not resign from your current position until you have a confirmed joining date from Qatar Airways.
Once again, thank you for your interest in a career with Qatar Airways and we look forward to seeing you in Doha in the near future.


Thank you & kind regards,

Ms. Tala Mustafa

Recruitment Coordinator
Website: www.qatarairways.com

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From: Tala Harith Mustafa <[email protected]>
Subject: Interview Invitation for 12 April 2012
Date: 28 February 2012
To:



Dear Mr. ,


Thank you for your interest in Qatar Airways and for applying for a Flight Deck Crew position with us.

Qatar Airways is the national carrier of the State o f Qatar. Currently undergoing rapid expansion, Qatar Airways operates one of the youngest, state of the art fleet of aircraft in the world. Flying to over 100 destinations with close to 100 aircraft, the airline has more than 200 aircraft on order, worth more than US $40 billion.

These are exciting times for us. We would like to invite you to share in our success.

We invite you to attend a selection program for a Captain position with us in Doha, on Thursday, 12 April 2012.

In order to ensure you are fully rested, candidates should arrive in Doha one day prior to the beginning of the selection programme.

Qatar Airways will organize your travel arrangements on Qatar Airways sectors. Connecting travel on non-QR sectors should be arranged by the candidate and will be reimbursed at the time of joining Qatar Airways, on production of original boarding passes and receipts. Please note that the cost of the ticket must be approved by Qatar Airways prior to your purchase of the ticket. In order to ensure that your Non QR sector connection flight timings are well merged with the QR flight, please supply us with flight details as soon as possible.

Please advise the nearest Qatar Airways destination when you respond to this email and attach a copy of your passport in order to apply for your entry visa to Doha.

Hotel accommodation will be arranged for the duration of your stay in Doha. Qatar Airways will be responsible for the room only. All other expenses will be borne by the candidate.

We encourage you to bring your spouse (if applicable), as we recognize that success in the programme will mean a lifestyle change for you and your family. All costs and arrangements for spouse travel must be borne by the candidate.

Our selection programme is a multiple stage process, consisting of a technical quiz, a competency-based interview and finally a simulator assessment. To move to the next stage of the selection process, candidates must successfully pass the previous stage.

Please confirm your attendance within 10 days of receipt of this email. Whilst we endeavour to maintain flexibility to accommodate your schedule, failure to attend a confirmed selection date without advising us in advance will result in your application not being considered in the future.

Further details regarding the arrangements will be forwarded once your confirmation has been received.

We look forward to hearing back from you and to meeting you soon!



Warm Regards
Tala Mustafa
For : Flight Deck Recruitment Team
World's 5 - star airline qatarairways.com

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Old 18th Nov 2012, 04:37
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Hey Shaggy,

Why in your post in this threat the good news letter is dated 16 of July...and in the threat you started the good news letter is dated may...what are you trying to achieved or to hide, tell us the truth, what has happen...have you harassed the recruitment department? Where you impolite with some body? Looks like some emails or clues are missing here mate
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 05:29
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The next step in the process is for us to gain approval for your appointment.

It seems that you didn't make it but you can try still to call them who knows.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 05:53
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SHAGGY330

@ SHAGGY330

Were you ever put in the pool or the emails posted are the only communications between yourself and QR?

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Old 18th Nov 2012, 07:09
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These were the only communications with QR. I listed them in reverse order. Nov - July - Feb (Not successful - Successful - Invitation). Other than the interview itself and responding to an email where they requested a contact phone number for a reference (which was a very favourable reference), I have not even tried to contact QR what-so-ever.

Several months ago someone posted something to the effect of "...nobody who ever received "good news" has not eventually received a fleet assignment and DOJ...". The only point behind my post is to enlighten those who believe that if they get the "good news" that they are assured of a DOJ. Obviously, they are not.

Regarding "May". Yes, when I began writing I couldn't recall exactly when the letter came. I had "May" in my head because that was when it was originally expected if the interview had been successful ( 3-4 weeks later). When I started finding, copying and pasting the actual emails, I forgot to change it until I pushed the submit button. Then, I immediately edited it.

Nothing left out or hidden, nor any covert or otherwise misleading or dishonest activity going on here mate. I sure am disappointed though, as I took them at their word and made life changing decisions because of it.

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Old 18th Nov 2012, 07:40
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What you are telling us is really scary ! I thought that good news means that you are guaranteed of getting employment with them.Obviously you are not. I am not sure if it is correct for a company to do this from a legal point of view,but certainly from an ethical point of view it is not right,especially knowing that you have waited for them for such a long period.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 08:03
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@Shaggy330
Sorry to hear that didnt work out for you. This is typical behaviour and it sadly is generally unexplainable. Why I hear you ask? Its because of the chaotic nature of the office, and the managers and staff in there.

To all you other QR wannabe's!
The rapid expansion of QR does not mean a dam thing; it does not and should not guarentee anybody a job . Including you! So dont quit your jobs in hope, and if I were you, take other suitable employment if its offered before QR.

Unfortunately I must say that a reasonable amount of less than competant people have slipped through the pilot selection process, but sadly most managers and staff in the office are the major problem not being delt with in QR.

Unfortunately it produces results like this, unexplained rejections, hiring of incompetant people and a general mess of paperwork and inefficient systems.

I remember one person in the "talent pool", that rejected a FTSO slot on the A320, then only about 2 months later they recieved a DOJ/start date letter for the 320!!

There is no explination for alot of things that happen; No real communication and certainly no real empathy for anyone called an employee (especially pilots).

edit:
There is a legal system in this country, however, good luck getting any legal representation that actually helps you!!! And about that dirty word called Ethics.......that doesnt exist here! lol.

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Old 18th Nov 2012, 08:07
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Shaggy, it looks like you didn't pass the security check. After passing a selection you have to wait a couple of weeks for a security background check before you will get a final offer. I suggest in your case this is what brought it to a stop.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 08:36
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The likelihood of failing a security check is between slim and none. I am holding my Police Clearance Certificate in my hand, and have passed similar checks at other airlines without any issues for the obvious reasons.

Any other thoughts or ideas are most welcomed.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 12:10
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Shaggy, could you possibly enlighten us a bit about your background, where you're from, your experience etc. (Completely up to you). Because there are known cases of external factors not directly related to the candidates position with QR that have meant that QR could not hire the candidate.

Like I said, I leave it to you what you want to reveal.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 12:27
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UK National. +15,000 total. +5000 wide-body command. Current A330. Currently flying as captain. Degree. ICAO, JAA, FAA and a few others. Never worked for another ME carrier.

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Old 18th Nov 2012, 12:29
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The other way around...

Hi all,

I got exactly the opposite while waiting for my "pass" letter in may. I received a mail saying I was unsuccessful this time and blabla, wrote back straight away and got a call the next morning from the recruitment team telling me it was a mistake and that the email was not for me. Another guy in my group had the same experience. I suggest that your write them an email asking for explanation and to confirm this email was for you.
Stay positive, I'm sure you'll find some sort of solution.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 12:56
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SHAGGY330

@Shaggy330,

It is my opinion that you should email AND call QR to confirm that the email is meant for you, especially if it's not a personalized email to you. I have also received an email that was intended for another pilot so an email sent to the wrong person isn't anything new.

You have nothing to lose my emailing AND calling QR HR.

Good luck!

Cheers!

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Old 18th Nov 2012, 16:10
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I'll give it them a call since it certainly has the making of a mistake.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 16:31
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shaggy 330 ,

good luck in trying to in touch with someone. Even if u do the hr team cant even give you any kind of explanation. They will just say wait for an update .
I,m waiting to get a date of joining as well interviewed in feb f/o non type rated already sigNed the contract for the A320 in may but nothing since then . I stayed up a few times so i can talk to someone there in HR but have not been succssful.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 16:37
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It starts to get really complicated now with all these wrong emails. I hope my 'pass' email was not meant for someone else .
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 17:53
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@chrislikesblue

Don't worry mate, the pass email normally starts with this:

Dear (your name),
We refer to your application...

Well, mine was like that and even my friends who also got their pass mail, had the same. So, as long as your name is mentioned, there will be little room for mistake unless there is another applicant having the exact same name

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Old 19th Nov 2012, 10:48
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QR is advertising for B777 Captains on their website.
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Old 19th Nov 2012, 11:48
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Yes, according to rumours, Qatar Airways wants to first take over/employ/kick people out of the pool(see shaggy330 - although I dont know whether he ever was "in the pool") before they hire non type rated direct entries. Makes at least sense to take that 500 people that are assessed, interviewed and security checked before inviting new ones.

My guess, if the pool is empty (if it ever will) they are going to open the fleet restriction upon application again.
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