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Joining Qatar Airways (QR) - all you need to know about it (threads merged)

Old 18th Nov 2012, 07:40
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What you are telling us is really scary ! I thought that good news means that you are guaranteed of getting employment with them.Obviously you are not. I am not sure if it is correct for a company to do this from a legal point of view,but certainly from an ethical point of view it is not right,especially knowing that you have waited for them for such a long period.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 08:03
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@Shaggy330
Sorry to hear that didnt work out for you. This is typical behaviour and it sadly is generally unexplainable. Why I hear you ask? Its because of the chaotic nature of the office, and the managers and staff in there.

To all you other QR wannabe's!
The rapid expansion of QR does not mean a dam thing; it does not and should not guarentee anybody a job . Including you! So dont quit your jobs in hope, and if I were you, take other suitable employment if its offered before QR.

Unfortunately I must say that a reasonable amount of less than competant people have slipped through the pilot selection process, but sadly most managers and staff in the office are the major problem not being delt with in QR.

Unfortunately it produces results like this, unexplained rejections, hiring of incompetant people and a general mess of paperwork and inefficient systems.

I remember one person in the "talent pool", that rejected a FTSO slot on the A320, then only about 2 months later they recieved a DOJ/start date letter for the 320!!

There is no explination for alot of things that happen; No real communication and certainly no real empathy for anyone called an employee (especially pilots).

edit:
There is a legal system in this country, however, good luck getting any legal representation that actually helps you!!! And about that dirty word called Ethics.......that doesnt exist here! lol.

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Old 18th Nov 2012, 08:07
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Shaggy, it looks like you didn't pass the security check. After passing a selection you have to wait a couple of weeks for a security background check before you will get a final offer. I suggest in your case this is what brought it to a stop.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 08:36
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Join Date: May 2012
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The likelihood of failing a security check is between slim and none. I am holding my Police Clearance Certificate in my hand, and have passed similar checks at other airlines without any issues for the obvious reasons.

Any other thoughts or ideas are most welcomed.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 12:10
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Shaggy, could you possibly enlighten us a bit about your background, where you're from, your experience etc. (Completely up to you). Because there are known cases of external factors not directly related to the candidates position with QR that have meant that QR could not hire the candidate.

Like I said, I leave it to you what you want to reveal.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 12:27
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Join Date: May 2012
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UK National. +15,000 total. +5000 wide-body command. Current A330. Currently flying as captain. Degree. ICAO, JAA, FAA and a few others. Never worked for another ME carrier.

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Old 18th Nov 2012, 12:29
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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The other way around...

Hi all,

I got exactly the opposite while waiting for my "pass" letter in may. I received a mail saying I was unsuccessful this time and blabla, wrote back straight away and got a call the next morning from the recruitment team telling me it was a mistake and that the email was not for me. Another guy in my group had the same experience. I suggest that your write them an email asking for explanation and to confirm this email was for you.
Stay positive, I'm sure you'll find some sort of solution.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 12:56
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SHAGGY330

@Shaggy330,

It is my opinion that you should email AND call QR to confirm that the email is meant for you, especially if it's not a personalized email to you. I have also received an email that was intended for another pilot so an email sent to the wrong person isn't anything new.

You have nothing to lose my emailing AND calling QR HR.

Good luck!

Cheers!

CAv
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 16:10
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Join Date: May 2012
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I'll give it them a call since it certainly has the making of a mistake.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 16:31
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shaggy 330 ,

good luck in trying to in touch with someone. Even if u do the hr team cant even give you any kind of explanation. They will just say wait for an update .
I,m waiting to get a date of joining as well interviewed in feb f/o non type rated already sigNed the contract for the A320 in may but nothing since then . I stayed up a few times so i can talk to someone there in HR but have not been succssful.
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 16:37
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Join Date: Jun 2003
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It starts to get really complicated now with all these wrong emails. I hope my 'pass' email was not meant for someone else .
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Old 18th Nov 2012, 17:53
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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@chrislikesblue

Don't worry mate, the pass email normally starts with this:

Dear (your name),
We refer to your application...

Well, mine was like that and even my friends who also got their pass mail, had the same. So, as long as your name is mentioned, there will be little room for mistake unless there is another applicant having the exact same name

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Old 19th Nov 2012, 10:48
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Join Date: Mar 2012
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QR is advertising for B777 Captains on their website.
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Old 19th Nov 2012, 11:48
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Join Date: Oct 2011
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Yes, according to rumours, Qatar Airways wants to first take over/employ/kick people out of the pool(see shaggy330 - although I dont know whether he ever was "in the pool") before they hire non type rated direct entries. Makes at least sense to take that 500 people that are assessed, interviewed and security checked before inviting new ones.

My guess, if the pool is empty (if it ever will) they are going to open the fleet restriction upon application again.
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Old 19th Nov 2012, 14:26
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The website says they are looking for current 777 captains who would be able to join by April 2013.
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Old 19th Nov 2012, 14:44
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777 captains...

To be quickly converted onto the 787... Perhaps...
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Old 20th Nov 2012, 08:52
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To be quickly converted onto the 787... Perhaps...
Wrong, They will not move from the 777 if they come direct...
They will make up for the people leaving on the 777..... as well as to keep the "senior" guys happy who were offered the 787 and now cant have it due to a shortage of 777 guys at the moment....... even though lots of guys are sitting on the ground twiddling their thumbs waiting to be trainined! ...Yawn. so predictable
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Old 20th Nov 2012, 12:18
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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DOJ 25 November 2012

Anybody Joining on the 25th November ....

Any information on the temporary accommodations they provide on arrival would be helpful.

High'n Fast
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Old 20th Nov 2012, 13:56
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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High n fast
Hi just have a few questions trying to figure out where I am in the pool .I interviewed in Feb 2012 first officer position I don't have a type and I was assigned the a320 signed contract in May got the talent pool email.in July and still waiting .
When did u interview ?
When did you sign your contract
Which aircraft did they assign you?
Did you get the talent pool email in July

Sorry for so many questions just trying to see where I stand .
Thanks
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Old 20th Nov 2012, 19:59
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disagreeable,

Thank you for all of your detailed posts. Very informative. Are the 777 slots open because of pilot departures or just fleet growth? Also, I thought that 787 slots were primarily going to be filled by A320 pilots - still true? Or will 787 slots be filled by pilots from all fleets who have the seniority to bid it (including those from the 777)?

Cheers
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