Ayla Aviation in Jordan?
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Ayla Aviation in Jordan?
Hello!
I am looking for information about Ayla Aviation in Aqaba, Jordan. It is a new school and I would to know if somebody is already working there, the work conditions, weather, spare time, food, .... Anything to get a good picture of the place. Thanks in Advance!
Flytoo,
Good flights to everybody!
I am looking for information about Ayla Aviation in Aqaba, Jordan. It is a new school and I would to know if somebody is already working there, the work conditions, weather, spare time, food, .... Anything to get a good picture of the place. Thanks in Advance!
Flytoo,
Good flights to everybody!
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From: Bahrain
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From: Jordan
Ayla is the biggest mistake of my life...
Ayla is the biggest mistake of my life...
When I arrive in Aquaba everything seem nice, nice airplanes, nice buildings, and the marketing guy very nice and promise so much...
It is all different. The good experienced instructors have left since I arrive, student service manager left, chief ground instructor left, today the HR manager left. What is happening here?
All students complains and the instructors remained don't know many things
There is a lot of confusion and nobady seem to have a good idea what to do. If I could go back I'd change school.
Ayla is very expensive and the quality of instruction is very low. All the old students here says is getting worse every day.
Aquaba is very bad place to stay for all this time. Very boring.
Please don't do my mistake, don't come here!
When I arrive in Aquaba everything seem nice, nice airplanes, nice buildings, and the marketing guy very nice and promise so much...
It is all different. The good experienced instructors have left since I arrive, student service manager left, chief ground instructor left, today the HR manager left. What is happening here?
All students complains and the instructors remained don't know many things
There is a lot of confusion and nobady seem to have a good idea what to do. If I could go back I'd change school.
Ayla is very expensive and the quality of instruction is very low. All the old students here says is getting worse every day.Aquaba is very bad place to stay for all this time. Very boring.
Please don't do my mistake, don't come here!
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are they still in business?
Ayla is yet another example of bad/inexperienced management in a flight school. They started up with the wrong people and never recovered.
After less that a year they lost already some 40 employees. Seems nobody wants to stick around that long in Ayla. Rumors say safety and organizational issues. The maintenance manager is a dispatcher, the chief flight instructor is a scheduler, the director has a private pilot license and that's his whole experience in aviation. The average experience of flight instructors is less than 100hrs.
It seems that playing "flight school tycoon" is not that easy after all
After less that a year they lost already some 40 employees. Seems nobody wants to stick around that long in Ayla. Rumors say safety and organizational issues. The maintenance manager is a dispatcher, the chief flight instructor is a scheduler, the director has a private pilot license and that's his whole experience in aviation. The average experience of flight instructors is less than 100hrs.
It seems that playing "flight school tycoon" is not that easy after all
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From: Nottingham
Desert Wind,
Clearly you are deeply unhappy with your training at Ayla. You and other dissatsified students should bring your concerns to the CEO as he is responsible for addressing the problems yo have raised.
If you get no satisfaction then raise them with BDB and Gulf Air.
Clearly you are deeply unhappy with your training at Ayla. You and other dissatsified students should bring your concerns to the CEO as he is responsible for addressing the problems yo have raised.
If you get no satisfaction then raise them with BDB and Gulf Air.
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are they still in business?
Quite a disaster. The list of people that have left the company in the last few months is endless: student affair manager, HR manager, chief ground instructor, asst ground instructor, director's personal assistant (the fourth in 8 months!), IT manager, the 4 most senior flight instructors, two ground instructors and so on.
They sell the ground school as a JAA one just to make it more expensive. The fact is that Ayla has nothing to do with JAA at all. You'll get a JCAA (Jordanian) ticket. If you are after a JAA licence you have to restart everything from scratch including the whole ground school. Ayla is not JAA approved and everyone in the ME/Gulf area has realized it.
I hope desert_wind you haven't paid in advance.
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From: Jordan
What a mess!
Excuse me gentlemen,
What a mess is going on here?! I am a student of Ayla and I am proud of it to the sky! Ayla is not hesitating to provide the best since I started my study here in April 2007. They passed through some hard moments as a new academy and they did their best to pass over those hard moments including the CFI departing and including the bad attitude of the Head of Maintenance! Ayla has the newest fleet in the whole region and HUGE amount of money is being pumped into it.
The above mentioned black sides are VERY exaggerated. I am, as a student of course alpha (the first course), challenging anyone of those who are complaining about the academy to PROVE ONE REAL ITEM that the academy is having low-quality products and myself and my partners in course alpha are a real proof of its high standard and we are all going to work for Royal Jordanian Airlines.
Gentlemen, do not judge too fast! And always be sure of what you hear!
With my best wishes..
and always be safe...
What a mess is going on here?! I am a student of Ayla and I am proud of it to the sky! Ayla is not hesitating to provide the best since I started my study here in April 2007. They passed through some hard moments as a new academy and they did their best to pass over those hard moments including the CFI departing and including the bad attitude of the Head of Maintenance! Ayla has the newest fleet in the whole region and HUGE amount of money is being pumped into it.
The above mentioned black sides are VERY exaggerated. I am, as a student of course alpha (the first course), challenging anyone of those who are complaining about the academy to PROVE ONE REAL ITEM that the academy is having low-quality products and myself and my partners in course alpha are a real proof of its high standard and we are all going to work for Royal Jordanian Airlines.
Gentlemen, do not judge too fast! And always be sure of what you hear!
With my best wishes..
and always be safe...
Last edited by skodeh; 25th February 2008 at 13:05. Reason: mis-typing
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flyingforlife: Ayla's problems have nothing to do with safety and quality, if Class A students feel they did a good job I can't see why shouldn't be that way
amended: you got a PM
flytoo: if you still want to know more about that company PM me
amended: you got a PM
flytoo: if you still want to know more about that company PM me
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From: Bahrain
!!! You must be a student, if you say things like that !!!
Look young boy, if you think that the city is boring...that is taste !
If you think the school is expensive... your point of view !
But if you say that the level of instruction is low and in case you mean the ground school...you have just proved that you are not a prof. yet and probably never will !!!
I have seen some Instructors in my life and I can tell you they are top of the market and probably the best I have ever seen. And if you ever become a man of such character and dignity like these fine man teaching in ground school...and only then...I would be proud to be your friend !!!
So my advice is ...before you ever talk about fine man, look in the mirror and ask yourself...am I qualified to grade fine instructors like these .
My second advice is... safe your energy for the ground school and start learning because the Airlines have from a lot of Pilots to choose allthough they are short !!!
Good luck to you
If you think the school is expensive... your point of view !
But if you say that the level of instruction is low and in case you mean the ground school...you have just proved that you are not a prof. yet and probably never will !!!
I have seen some Instructors in my life and I can tell you they are top of the market and probably the best I have ever seen. And if you ever become a man of such character and dignity like these fine man teaching in ground school...and only then...I would be proud to be your friend !!!
So my advice is ...before you ever talk about fine man, look in the mirror and ask yourself...am I qualified to grade fine instructors like these .
My second advice is... safe your energy for the ground school and start learning because the Airlines have from a lot of Pilots to choose allthough they are short !!!
Good luck to you
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From: Bahrain
Well, this topic is interesting.. I am a student at Ayla Aviation Academy and i'll list the good things about it:
1- Brand new aircrafts.
2- New facitilites with best equipments.
3- Good ground instructors so far.
4- As I heard from the previous batches, every single flight instructor is excellent and there arent much problems with them.
As any other organisation, Ayla might have its weakpoints which the management is doing the best to solve and satisfy the students. For people who dont know whats going on here, come and see how the management treats the students!! Its all about respect and giving us the priority. Guys!! if you arent satisfied with Ayla, I think there are tens of flight schools and academies around the world. Since I arrived to Aqaba (except the city) everything else is good, but many people are being negative about it because I beleive they think once they pay an amount of money they want everything to be perfect. If you compare Ayla with any other school in the middle east or even ASIA you wont find an improving school such as AYLA which developed and improved to the highest level within this short time.
I am not marketing for the school nor being negative. This is what I think about Ayla and anyone wants to make sure how things are going here i advice them to come and visit rather than listening to NEGATIVE people not knowing what LIFE means.
For those who are being very negative about Ayla !! Do u guys prefer another school where they tap ur hand to fly and give u license for nothin? Keep in mind that taking one point of view with certain idea and letting go many other good points is not a professional way of analysing and evalutating things. Unfortunately, this is not a Pilot's attitude.
CHEERS
1- Brand new aircrafts.
2- New facitilites with best equipments.
3- Good ground instructors so far.
4- As I heard from the previous batches, every single flight instructor is excellent and there arent much problems with them.
As any other organisation, Ayla might have its weakpoints which the management is doing the best to solve and satisfy the students. For people who dont know whats going on here, come and see how the management treats the students!! Its all about respect and giving us the priority. Guys!! if you arent satisfied with Ayla, I think there are tens of flight schools and academies around the world. Since I arrived to Aqaba (except the city) everything else is good, but many people are being negative about it because I beleive they think once they pay an amount of money they want everything to be perfect. If you compare Ayla with any other school in the middle east or even ASIA you wont find an improving school such as AYLA which developed and improved to the highest level within this short time.
I am not marketing for the school nor being negative. This is what I think about Ayla and anyone wants to make sure how things are going here i advice them to come and visit rather than listening to NEGATIVE people not knowing what LIFE means.
For those who are being very negative about Ayla !! Do u guys prefer another school where they tap ur hand to fly and give u license for nothin? Keep in mind that taking one point of view with certain idea and letting go many other good points is not a professional way of analysing and evalutating things. Unfortunately, this is not a Pilot's attitude.
CHEERS
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From: Bahrain
Alya seems to read PPrune 
They have only one email for everything, Either to request a quote or ask about the city
I was going to go there for my GF Training but I didn't go from what I hear. You sit back and do nothing and blame it on the weather and of course every cough you make you have to pay..
I honestly think Jordan will never and will never become an aviation country . Too many corrupt people and too many politics involved.
I am not saying UAE is the best but it has more advantages then Jordan, That's for sure
They have only one email for everything, Either to request a quote or ask about the city
I was going to go there for my GF Training but I didn't go from what I hear. You sit back and do nothing and blame it on the weather and of course every cough you make you have to pay..
I honestly think Jordan will never and will never become an aviation country . Too many corrupt people and too many politics involved.
I am not saying UAE is the best but it has more advantages then Jordan, That's for sure
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From: Bahrain
Im glad that you are staying where you are and doing nothing. Rumors will stay rumors and the fact is what we are living by. Indeed, since we came to Ayla we did not pay a single penny more than the package we recieved. As I mentioned before, you can never depend on comments and online feedback to judge any organisation.
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I Know Some Terminated Employee,s And Student,s Start Talking About Ayla After The Ceo Kicked Them Out ,we Do Agree That The Ceo Has The Right To Terminate The Disqualified To Keep Ayla One Of The Best Companies Inthe World , It Is Essential To Establish Open Communication In This Matter . Ayla Is One Year,s Old But It Is On The Top Of All Oteher Academies In The Areas Why Do You Have To Write Bad Things About Ayla In The Internet Come And Face The Management And They Will Help You Out Of Your Cave Where You Belong To .Ayla Made My Dream And I Will Finish My Course Soon To Fly High In The Sky Thanks To Every Ground And Flight Instructor In Ayla The Barking Dogs Never Bite .
ED UP attitude of the management toward the workforce!
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From: Canada
Ayla Interview
Hey guyz... I have an interview w/ Ayla for a flight instructor position... Can someone elighten me w/ how the working conditions are?.. how many hrs do instructors typically fly in a month?... i've read both good and bad stuff about the company... i dunno what's true and what's not!.. Whatever info i get will be helpful... thanks guyz....
peace
peace
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From: Nottingham
Mechanical Back up posted:
I have seen some Instructors in my life and I can tell you they are top of the market and probably the best I have ever seen. And if you ever become a man of such character and dignity like these fine man teaching in ground school...and only then...I would be proud to be your friend !!!
I hear most are leaving or have left!
I have seen some Instructors in my life and I can tell you they are top of the market and probably the best I have ever seen. And if you ever become a man of such character and dignity like these fine man teaching in ground school...and only then...I would be proud to be your friend !!!
I hear most are leaving or have left!