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Old 5th Jul 2007, 07:19
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Are guys in the sandpit tired of Indian/Pakistani bashing that they are now at each other's throat?
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I'm not totally certain what you are getting at here. 'ojguilty' kind of gives things away.
If you have something of concrete to say to me, then fire away. You said nothing in your post, other than things that might be heard from the right-wings morons on FOX NEWS. You slag, make disparaging remarks, yet say nothing of consequence.
I have no idea what Franco Canadians are like but it would surprise me if they came across as big Yank fans. There is but a handful of countries on this planet that have any respect left for the USA ever since GWB took control. Not only is this man an idiot, very akin to your post, but he is also not a good man. I will go so far as to say, he is evil.
Please, please, please, if you have something worthwhile to say, and by that I mean, trying to convince me that America has not lost its way, then by all means, let me hear it. I truly wish someone COULD convince me that the Good Ole USA is what is was 20 years ago. I fear for the consequences otherwise.
Guatanamo, 2nd Iraq war, Middle east policy, GLOBAL WARMING, inequality within the USA (and by that i mean, never since the great depression has the difference between rich and poor been greater.... and that is a FACT), general world policy (ie. Russia, Korea, Middle east, AFRICA,....... oh my god, it encompasses the entire planet). GWB has done NOTHING right in his entire Presidency. He ignored 911 when it WAS HAPPENING............. he ignored Katrina WHEN IT WAS HAPPENING AND AFTERWARDS, he is a tiny little man that you have entrusted with your security and prosperity in the future. You and your fellow countrymen are in for a rude awakening in the next 10 years. This does not please me, in fact I worry about it, not only for you, but for everyone else.
As for this ''North American Union'', for which you so highly desire, I can't see that happening. I doubt that the Cannuks would go for that. I mean really, why would a country like Canada willingly join a country like the Good Ole, gun-toting, racist, IMAGE Conscious, ass-kissing US of A ???? That makes me laugh to be honest.
From the Cannuks I know here, they seem to be generally a good bunch of guys and it takes a lot of effort to get them to denounce the 'evil empire', in spite of the fact that I think they all believe it.
Enjoy your image-conscious life in Dubai. Go to lunch with ED, kiss everyone's ass, and feel good about yourself. But it is becoming blatantly obvious to about 6 billion other human beings, that you and your kind, are not decent human beings.
All i'm saying is this........ wake up and smell the coffee. If you think for one minute that the dynamics of the world will be similar in 10 years, then you are truly a typical, mormon polygamist.......... southern USA trailor park trash racist............. or otherwise a generally uneducated human being. And YES i will categorically state this.............. roughly 40% of Americans are just like you. That scares the ****e out of me!!!!
Feel free to comment on Guatanamo, or Iraq or IN FACT............ ANYTHING GWB has done in his Presidency. If for a moment you will sit back and think about things, and not take it personally, you will have to agree. Things have gone askew in the USA. (then again, i've probably pissed you so much that you are incapable of sound reasoned judgement now) And sadly, that makes me laugh.
Say HI to ED at lunch for me. And when you are down on your knees kissing his ass with the hopes that he might influence your career progression.think of the rest of us that have to live with the consequences of your attitude and your government.
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Hmmmm,

From that post, and previous ones, I would recomment you switch from tricyclics to SSRIs....

....escitalopram or sertraline could get you in a better mood....milder side effects too...

off course, when nothing else works, blame the Americans for everything....RIGTH!!!
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Old 6th Jul 2007, 04:10
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Hi all,
With the British pound well above USD2.00, how's EK/EY skippers' salary compared to Easy, Ryan or Monarch? Lots of pommies should be homeward bound I suppose but are they still holding out in the sandpit.
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mensaboy, (interesting screen name, a little self importance)
Let's see what the "little man" president has done for Africa. The Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development, an independent monitor of global spending reports, "the US has quadrupled aid to the continent over the last six years. In 2003 Bush pledged $15 billion to fight AIDS, primarily in Africa. Two years later, another $1.2 billion to fight malaria in 15 African countries." And where does this money come from, the people of the US. Curious as to the amount of money and aid the EU, Russia, Korea and Canada has contributed.

You speak of the difference in the rich and poor in the US. Here is one little tidbit, 10% of the people of the US pay 90% of all of the taxes. Almost 50% of all people in the US pay little or no Federal Income tax. See how that plays into your vision of US politics. GDP continues to be higher than Japan, the EU and most other industrialized nations (but not China and India) and inflation continues to stagnate just around 3%, all under the dangerous, brain dead idiot president. I will agree, Iraq-a huge mistake by any measure, it's all been said before.

Your rants against all things American (except Boeing) get tiresome and belong on another blog. Read something besides the Gulf News editorial page, which borrows much of their articles from the NY Times. Which by the way, decided to put the plot to destroy the fuel farms at JFK on page 31 of the Times.

I don't know where you're from, mensa, but spend some time in the US doing charity work, working with the Red Cross, helping out at a soup kitchen and you will be overwhelmed by the overall generousity of the everyday citizen. Are there problems? Of course. Can things be improved? Of course. But your rants are so ignorant of what is reality in the US, it is somewhat humorous to those of us from there. That's probably why you aren't seeing a lot of response to you. But please, take your rants to a more appropriate site. You will find lots of company at www.moveon.org. Or go to Michael Moore's web site. Lots of company over there. Spend some time in the heartland, not NY, not LA, not SF, and you will see a much different country.

I can't wait to spend 16 hours in a cockpit with you. I sure hope your R/T is one hundred per cent perfect. Especially if we fly to JFK. Make sure you know when and when not to say "heavy". Make sure you know all the correct required calls to make. Make sure its, tree (three), fivah (five), and better use "wilco" when "roger" is not appropriate.

Well, m'boy, you obviously can figure out my nationality, so why have you not identified yours? Some say you may be Canadian. If you are not embarressed by your nationality or cannot standup for your country's policies and attitudes (which you are so quick to run down about the US), why not relate your nationality? See you on the line.

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Most guys rent out their properties in the UK but i agree the dollar is a real problem, however it has always fluctuated and we are currently at the worst point in 26 years against the pound. In the short term it is becoming more likley for the Dirham to be re-valued or even pegged to a different currency.
The salaries cannot compare to the UK as there are so many iffs and buts however if you own property in the UK and have it rented out then you will be far better off in EK, but if you are sending money back for a big mortgage then the money works out very similar. Dubai is getting expensive but is still very cheap to live here compared to the UK.
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Old 6th Jul 2007, 06:55
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Hasan Habibi....why u ask if we hold out in Dubai sanddune, when u tell u location is also Dubai....? Dubai good. No Problem, siirrr
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Jesus bloody Christ, we have to do something about this site....BWTF?
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Jesus bloody Christ, we have to do something about this site....BWTF?
Agree 100%. The moderator keeps letting people get away with personal attacks and lets these threads develop into slagging matches. It needs to stop now. Since the moderator even helps out from time to time he can't be counted on so it will take self policing from the more mature posters.

and before someone attacks me personally for saying this, yes I have been guilty of the same from time to time, but never on the level of some others.

These personal attacks have driven many decent individuals and good contributors away from Pppune.

Forum rules should be:

1) Debate the topic not the person.

2) No personal attacks.

3) No attacks on large groups of people.

4) Treat the forum like you are in Danny's living room and be polite.

5) We can agree to disagree, but don't be nasty about it.

6) No nasty or threatening PMs.

Feel free to add others


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Old 6th Jul 2007, 17:43
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Bl00dy hell - go away for a few days, and come back to this load of utter b0ll0cks

Grow up kiddies
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I know who this Mensagirl is. I have flown with him. He is a Canadian. And he is taking this opportunity to depart from the normal politically correct "Canadian" ways to vent his frustrations because he is a F/O at EK after so many years. In fact he is a short man with a Napolian Complex who is easily brought to tears from a steern suggestion that he may be high on profile. All talk and no substance. I have seen it.

Mensa is that you?

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Old 6th Jul 2007, 18:59
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White Knight...I must say it is easy for you to tell someone under 6'4" to grow up.
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Please, please, please, if you have something worthwhile to say, and by that I mean, trying to convince me that America has not lost its way, then by all means, let me hear it. I truly wish someone COULD convince me that the Good Ole USA is what is was 20 years ago. I fear for the consequences otherwise.
Guatanamo, 2nd Iraq war, Middle east policy, GLOBAL WARMING, inequality within the USA (and by that i mean, never since the great depression has the difference between rich and poor been greater.... and that is a FACT), general world policy (ie. Russia, Korea, Middle east, AFRICA,....... oh my god, it encompasses the entire planet). GWB has done NOTHING right in his entire Presidency. He ignored 911 when it WAS HAPPENING............. he ignored Katrina WHEN IT WAS HAPPENING AND AFTERWARDS, he is a tiny little man that you have entrusted with your security and prosperity in the future. You and your fellow countrymen are in for a rude awakening in the next 10 years. This does not please me, in fact I worry about it, not only for you, but for everyone else.
George is an usurper of power. He stole the first election and he is not the embodiment of Americans in general. If and when it becomes intolerable the American people will do the right thing as they have in the past:


We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.


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George is an usurper of power. He stole the first election and he is not the embodiment of Americans in general. If and when it becomes intolerable the American people will do the right thing as they have in the past:


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pay sacle...I guess Hassan is tired of all the whinging and whining that drowns out the azan prayers every day!
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In response to 757 guy (or 767 guy), I can't remember at the moment and don't feel like looking it up at the moment. You personally attempted to insult me 3 times in your short post yet you are 'attempting' exactly what you are ''implying'' that I am doing. I find that odd to say the least. I would never in a million years make a personal attack on one individual even he completely personified the general things that I find irritating.
I don't care one iota if you know who I am. If you are honest in your post, but I doubt you are, give me a ring and we can discuss our differing viewpoints.
It seems you either take offence to me as a human being from your experiences with me, or you are very angry that I have taken a shot at a group of people here on this forum. If the former is true then you should have told me how I offended you and I honestly would have reconsidered what I did or said to you. Since no one has ever said that to me nor have I gotten the feeling that someone is really pissed at me(and yes I realize that most times some things are best left unsaid), I will presume I have offended you with my beliefs about some things going on in the US of A.
I think some people are missing the entire point here. I am NOT an 'America Hater' at all. I simply feel that things have taken such a turn for the worse during GWB's tenure that is upsets me. I had mentioned earlier that I feel the entire world owes a debt of gratitude to the US, for a great number of years, because they took on ALL the worlds challenges and upheld things I believe to be honorable in a fine manner. In fact the US was a bastion of leadership, moral fortitude, innovation and creativity likely never seen before in history. And that is what I find so disturbing ! I honestly believe things have changed for the worse.
This is brought to light every time I read an email from Ed, or listen to some self-centered, image conscious pilot from the USA who can't make the effort or feels it is beneath him to come even close to making proper RT calls. Yes, I will openly admit I don't understand individuals I chat with who simply do not view events such as GWB's elections in the same way I do. It doesn't mean I don't like the person, it simply means I think he is misguided.
I will say though, the ones who defend GWB and epitomize the exact faults that I find are becoming more common among Americans, are exactly the same individuals who operate the aircraft or make RT in a manner that is not correct. And believe me, my RT can use some work too, especially after an 8 hour flight returning at 0600. I don't profess to be perfect or anything close to that, but here is the key difference. I accept that I mess up and do my best to improve. The pilots who don't even recognize mistakes such as RT, which is so simple to identify and fix, are also the pilots who don't recognize and fix mistakes that are more complicated. I believe there is a direct correlation between piloting skills and RT but of course I realize that there are some crappy RT guys who are otherwise brilliant pilots when it comes to knowledge or hands and feet skills.
As for your belief that I am Canadian and not adhering to the Canadian ideal of ' political correctness'........ I have never felt that political correctness is a virtue.
So here is my shot back at you, although I know I shouldn't I can't help myself. haha. You mentioned that I , and I quote ''is easily brought to tears from a steern suggestion that he may be high on profile''. Well I have never had a stern suggestion made to me about being high on profile. I did have one individual who became very nervous during one approach about 2 years ago into Dubai and you know what I did? I got my ass down, well below the profile, but simply because I didn't want to make any Captain feel he was outside his envelope. This was in spite of the fact that he clearly didn't understand energy management even in the most primative way. I will admit that my first reaction was........ ''are you serious?'' But I did not mean it in a bad way or a disrespectful way although I totally admit that was not the 'best' response, but I was a bit shocked when you made that comment. If anyone was close to tears, it was you mate, not me. I finished the approach well within the constraints of EK policy and without use of speed brake. I don't say this to suggest I'm so good, I say this to emphasize that you clearly do not understand energy management and are so worried about EK management response, that you got incredibly nervous even after I got well 'BELOW' profile. By the way, if this was indeed the flight and it was the only time a Captain got really antsy with me back then, YOU were the one that was 'close to tears' as you suggest. What was funny was that it was a really nice continuous decelerated approach, but then again, as I recall you were quite new to the aircraft and a new captain so I totally understood your nervousness.
As for me, I have never put a Captain in the position of being uncomfortable with something I was doing, even if I had to do things in a more conservative manner than I thought was necessarily....... as a means to stay within his comfort level.
If I am correct in my 'guess' of who you are, and quite frankly I don't even care, then I totally understand your POV regarding my posts here. You are not a typical Canadian and that is based upon my experience with you and from what our colleagues eagerly say about you without any prompting from others. Your name comes up frequently among the pilots in this company. I don't recall if you flew Boeing before EK but I think that might be correct.
I know this is dragging on a bit, and I'm off to the beach, but I want to make it clear to each and every person that endures my long-winded diatribes. I don't dislike Americans at all. I am just getting worried that what historically happens to a Nation that is so successful for so long, has begun happening in the USA over the past 15 years. It scares me, pisses me off and I worry for the good of the world in the future. My god man, the government of the the largest, most properous and militarily powerful nation ever on the planet still denies that 'climate change' is happening. This is a symptom of many ills in my opinion.
I do want to mention the one post from............ ****e sorry i forget the name but I think it was Tango Uniform..... disputing some things I have said. In spite of the fact you made some remark reference my name, which by the way was meant as a bit of a joke. He references 'aids' 'africa aid' etc, and I appreciate that alot. I don't agree with most things you said and as such I will do some research there, but at least his post didn't try to lambaste me, but tried to alter my point of view. Much appreciated.
On one last point. I don't give my nationality not because I'm afraid to do that, but simply because individuals such as B767 guy would use that to emflame others against ALL individuals of my nationality. I admit that perhaps only about 1/2 of my nationality agree with me, yet I believe many more 'somewhat' agree with me, but that is neither here nor there. I don't wish to disparage others based on their nationality even though I come across so strong on this forum. And if the truth be known, I would never label an American into the category that I find so reprehensible until he demonstrated the exact traits I so despise. Its just that I find it more and more common and this is my way of saying.............. get a grip and get back to what you were in America 10 years ago, or 40 years ago. This is my means of sending up a flare........... announcing that the Emperor has no clothes........ setting off the alarm bells. Goodness me............ I truly HOPE I'M WRONG in what I think is rapidly happening.
Regards.
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Mensa, what planet are you from??? get on the phone and dook it out with 757 if you know him/her but spare the rest of us please.... I agree with you, personal attacks should not be made here.....but I will make an exception, you have severely lost the plot. The topic is EK Captain salary, as you are an FO perhaps you might not be the right person to comment, but if you have some input to the topic then share it, otherwise spare it......please!
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Point taken spag monster, but I was just responding to an attack on me. As for this thread, here is my opinion. Considering the entire package, Captains pay at EK is good.
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Like I said, JBC

From bad to worse...
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Mensa you say..."Well I have never had a stern suggestion made to me about being high on profile". That is because it was never made(at least not by me). The statement I made was not meant to be litteral. It was to highlight your general character and to get your attention. I think I have it.

If you continue to bash an entire country and its people you are going to get responses like mine and others on this thread. Perhaps that is what you are looking for.

You sir have no clue what you are talking about and should take some time assess yourself. Maybe an attitude adjustment is warranted.

Oh and thanks for the little story about one of your co-workers. It assures me you have no clue who I am.

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