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Can someone tell me what the objective of this management is?
If Gulf Air wants to save money then surely Mr. Dose needs to review his direct reports and their performance. This is not happening.
I am under the impression that there will be no changes and that this is after all a vamped up cosmetics exercise. The new VP's are doing exactly what the previous VP's were fired for.
So what is the bloody point Mr. Dose, please enlighten us.
If Gulf Air wants to save money then surely Mr. Dose needs to review his direct reports and their performance. This is not happening.
I am under the impression that there will be no changes and that this is after all a vamped up cosmetics exercise. The new VP's are doing exactly what the previous VP's were fired for.
So what is the bloody point Mr. Dose, please enlighten us.
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I don`t agree with you that
The previous VPs brought all their friends and made them managers. There are more managers in Gulf Air now than the staffs and they are getting paid big salaries for keeping seats warm, they even invented new positions to make their friends happy.
Those days are over. No more useless managers in Gulf Air.
Let the management run the airline professionally away from these mafias.
new VP's are doing exactly what the previous VP's were fired for.
The previous VPs brought all their friends and made them managers. There are more managers in Gulf Air now than the staffs and they are getting paid big salaries for keeping seats warm, they even invented new positions to make their friends happy.
Those days are over. No more useless managers in Gulf Air.
Let the management run the airline professionally away from these mafias.
bye bye A.D
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A.D will be out soon......less than 3 months....wait and see
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Gulf Air, was running without PC for over 6months and the situation was better than it is today.
Commander 38t, please spare us this Mafia rethoric, mafia is still there, probably worse today than ever, while Mr. Dose attends his bored meetings.
Where is the guy? I've never met him past the one and only memorable speech on establishing accountability. Where is it?
The business is still the same, managed still the same ways, still with the same leaks and the management to go with it. Anyone with an ounce of integrity has left, those still here are struggling to leave and you tell me that the company is better....
Don't know what colour glasses you are wearing, but I think it's time you took them off to face the somber music of Gulf Air reality today, Gulf Air is poorly managed, the thiefs are still there and nothing has been done about them, on the contrary, they have been eased to effectively drain this company faster of its assets while we watch.
Memorable indeed!
Commander 38t, please spare us this Mafia rethoric, mafia is still there, probably worse today than ever, while Mr. Dose attends his bored meetings.
Where is the guy? I've never met him past the one and only memorable speech on establishing accountability. Where is it?
The business is still the same, managed still the same ways, still with the same leaks and the management to go with it. Anyone with an ounce of integrity has left, those still here are struggling to leave and you tell me that the company is better....
Don't know what colour glasses you are wearing, but I think it's time you took them off to face the somber music of Gulf Air reality today, Gulf Air is poorly managed, the thiefs are still there and nothing has been done about them, on the contrary, they have been eased to effectively drain this company faster of its assets while we watch.
Memorable indeed!
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It is a RESTRUCTURING!!!!!! Look at any similar case, anywhere in the world, and the situation is the same. People get upset, some lose their jobs and others expect immediate change.
I hate to bring sanity back to the debate but this is going to take time. That frustrates me as much as anyone but that is a fact. We have NO clue as to what is happening behind the scenes or when things will start to happen. A lot of that will never be very obvious as the changes and improvements will take many small steps.
Now prove how the mafia is stealing at the moment!!! Lots of accucsations but no substance!! I am not disagreeing that that stuff is not an issue but it would be good if the accusations came with some proof.
The new FRAUD team should be informed as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate to bring sanity back to the debate but this is going to take time. That frustrates me as much as anyone but that is a fact. We have NO clue as to what is happening behind the scenes or when things will start to happen. A lot of that will never be very obvious as the changes and improvements will take many small steps.
Now prove how the mafia is stealing at the moment!!! Lots of accucsations but no substance!! I am not disagreeing that that stuff is not an issue but it would be good if the accusations came with some proof.
The new FRAUD team should be informed as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Look up in the sky! It's yellow and costs millions!
"yank......poooof"
(A.D's golden parachute opening, if gulfair_sexy is correct)
Which will mean another few million down the drain.....
(A.D's golden parachute opening, if gulfair_sexy is correct)
Which will mean another few million down the drain.....
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I "Don't know what colour glasses you are wearing" coz I never said "that the company is better...."
Please read before you comment.
I totally agree about alansari brothers and panahi mafia but wasn`t the prevoius VPO who brought them?
A.D surely needs to kick them out before making any changes.
I "Don't know what colour glasses you are wearing" coz I never said "that the company is better...."
Please read before you comment.
I totally agree about alansari brothers and panahi mafia but wasn`t the prevoius VPO who brought them?
A.D surely needs to kick them out before making any changes.
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gulfair_sexy.
Sounds like you should be filing your grievances here:
http://www.ethicspoint.com
Sounds like you should be filing your grievances here:
http://www.ethicspoint.com
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Reports can be made by employees and by external parties, who do business with Gulf Air, on a secure non-Gulf Air server.
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Please remember:
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No one doubts the restructuring that is required, but why is it in the hands of managment that has been in the same place and was not capable of carrying out the necessary changes before?
There is no logic there and MH is right about that head of Inflight who is a waste of space.
Now on the other hand, placement decisions are being made at the British club, so what does that say?
Corruption still prevails, who meets there with other GF management, Michael Kent. So why pretend, let him run the airline, since he is doing it anyway.
There is no logic there and MH is right about that head of Inflight who is a waste of space.
Now on the other hand, placement decisions are being made at the British club, so what does that say?
Corruption still prevails, who meets there with other GF management, Michael Kent. So why pretend, let him run the airline, since he is doing it anyway.
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. . . or even Continental Airlines. This book (not particularly new but very interesting) makes for good reading about what went on at Continental Airlines.
TALKING PLAIN AT CONTINENTAL
FROM WORST TO FIRST
Behind the Scenes of Continental's Remarkable Comeback
By Gordon Bethune with Scott Huler
Wiley 294 pp $24.95
With the recent retirement of American Airlines (AMR) CEO Robert L. Crandall, the airline industry lost its most colorful, combative, and quotable leader. But in Gordon Bethune's new book, From Worst to First, the chief of Continental Airlines Inc. (CAI.B) gamely tries to fill the gap.
Although Bethune, with co-author Scott Huler, promises a ''behind-the-scenes'' view of Continental's comeback since 1994, the book mostly covers well-trodden ground--but with a blunt, often profane brand of humor. Anyone familiar with Bethune's leadership of twice-bankrupt Continental will probably recognize such stock lines as ''you can make a pizza so cheap nobody wants to eat it'' (a reference to Continental's failed obsession with cost-cutting) and ''the sickest patients need the best doctors'' (to justify rising executive pay when Continental is at death's door).
But Bethune includes some fresh examples of his plain-spoken management style. For instance, when told by his operations people that they simply can't meet a deadline for repainting 200 planes, Bethune retorts: ''You're wonderful people and I love you, but you're going to get those airplanes painted or I'm going to shoot every last one of you.'' The workers make the deadline. Bethune, a former Boeing Co. executive, later explains that he has only twice in his career suggested shooting employees.
Simplicity and consistency have always been among Bethune's strengths in running the airline. But those qualities can make for tedious reading as he repeatedly explains the cornerstones of Continental's turnaround plan--from the way it measures and rewards on-time performance to how it communicates with employees. Bethune bolsters his points with a plethora of sports and airline analogies that quickly grow tiresome.
Still, in an age where managing seems increasingly complicated, some of Bethune's prescriptions are refreshingly straightforward. In stressing the importance of working together and making the workplace happier, Bethune explains how: ''Simple. You act nice. And you insist that everybody act nicer. Whenever possible, you react to their understandable hesitance with more niceness. It all sounds almost silly, but the fact is that the only way to change a corporate culture is to just change it.''
In one of the book's few behind-the-scenes passages, Bethune explains how he was almost passed over for the CEO job after the ouster of his predecessor. Continental's board decided not to name anyone as CEO for a time and to keep Bethune as president. When Bethune protested vehemently and got his chance to address the directors, he bluntly told them: ''This place is going nowhere fast, and in about two weeks, it's going to come apart at the seams. You can pick me--you may not think I'm the guy, but I am the guy. But if not, you'd better pick somebody else fast.'' With this book, Bethune seems intent on proving to the world that he's still the guy.
BY WENDY ZELLNER
FROM WORST TO FIRST
Behind the Scenes of Continental's Remarkable Comeback
By Gordon Bethune with Scott Huler
Wiley 294 pp $24.95
With the recent retirement of American Airlines (AMR) CEO Robert L. Crandall, the airline industry lost its most colorful, combative, and quotable leader. But in Gordon Bethune's new book, From Worst to First, the chief of Continental Airlines Inc. (CAI.B) gamely tries to fill the gap.
Although Bethune, with co-author Scott Huler, promises a ''behind-the-scenes'' view of Continental's comeback since 1994, the book mostly covers well-trodden ground--but with a blunt, often profane brand of humor. Anyone familiar with Bethune's leadership of twice-bankrupt Continental will probably recognize such stock lines as ''you can make a pizza so cheap nobody wants to eat it'' (a reference to Continental's failed obsession with cost-cutting) and ''the sickest patients need the best doctors'' (to justify rising executive pay when Continental is at death's door).
But Bethune includes some fresh examples of his plain-spoken management style. For instance, when told by his operations people that they simply can't meet a deadline for repainting 200 planes, Bethune retorts: ''You're wonderful people and I love you, but you're going to get those airplanes painted or I'm going to shoot every last one of you.'' The workers make the deadline. Bethune, a former Boeing Co. executive, later explains that he has only twice in his career suggested shooting employees.
Simplicity and consistency have always been among Bethune's strengths in running the airline. But those qualities can make for tedious reading as he repeatedly explains the cornerstones of Continental's turnaround plan--from the way it measures and rewards on-time performance to how it communicates with employees. Bethune bolsters his points with a plethora of sports and airline analogies that quickly grow tiresome.
Still, in an age where managing seems increasingly complicated, some of Bethune's prescriptions are refreshingly straightforward. In stressing the importance of working together and making the workplace happier, Bethune explains how: ''Simple. You act nice. And you insist that everybody act nicer. Whenever possible, you react to their understandable hesitance with more niceness. It all sounds almost silly, but the fact is that the only way to change a corporate culture is to just change it.''
In one of the book's few behind-the-scenes passages, Bethune explains how he was almost passed over for the CEO job after the ouster of his predecessor. Continental's board decided not to name anyone as CEO for a time and to keep Bethune as president. When Bethune protested vehemently and got his chance to address the directors, he bluntly told them: ''This place is going nowhere fast, and in about two weeks, it's going to come apart at the seams. You can pick me--you may not think I'm the guy, but I am the guy. But if not, you'd better pick somebody else fast.'' With this book, Bethune seems intent on proving to the world that he's still the guy.
BY WENDY ZELLNER
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British Club placements
Example:
Communication manager of sorts. about as articulate as 3 wheeled scooter and the personality to match.
So what are her qualifications to be in the position she is in?
2 years of flying? and sorry nearly finished high school?
This is the illness of Gulf Air, very soon we will need to place ads at the British club to place expat brats in Gulf Air because they could not get jobs anywhere else in the world, while professionals in the business are being shown the door.
The British club runs Gulf Air and over a beer or 12, little schemes are made to carry out the master plan, regardless of the company's needs.
Wonderful!
Communication manager of sorts. about as articulate as 3 wheeled scooter and the personality to match.
So what are her qualifications to be in the position she is in?
2 years of flying? and sorry nearly finished high school?
This is the illness of Gulf Air, very soon we will need to place ads at the British club to place expat brats in Gulf Air because they could not get jobs anywhere else in the world, while professionals in the business are being shown the door.
The British club runs Gulf Air and over a beer or 12, little schemes are made to carry out the master plan, regardless of the company's needs.
Wonderful!
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And here are the demands from the 100 or so that decided to refuse to work today:
1. Extend the deadline of the offer to 31st December 2007.
2. Fixed amount of BD20,000/-
3. 2 months of gross salary for each year of service.
4. GOSI contribution to be up to 10 years depending on age.
5. For the first 5 years after retirement to be treated as staff with all staff travel facilities and medical benefits, thereafter to be treated as retired and implement the company rules.
6. Any application is rejected by the management, should be compensated by a suitable package.
7. 25% increment to all of gulf air nationals (Bahraini & Omani) in order to compensate for inflation as well as the on going freeze on promotions and annual increments.
And these were generally the people you see swiping in and then either, (a)parking the car and getting to their desks 20mins later or (b) going off to take their kids to school and coming back an hour later or (c) driving off and coming back at 3pm to swipe out!
They should have had the door shut on them and told to come back at 3 to clear their desks!
C'mon, turn it around and provide this package to the expats instead, then all the Bahraini & Omani staff can keep their jobs...well for couple of months at least.. it should last about that long under management with that kind of sense.
1. Extend the deadline of the offer to 31st December 2007.
2. Fixed amount of BD20,000/-
3. 2 months of gross salary for each year of service.
4. GOSI contribution to be up to 10 years depending on age.
5. For the first 5 years after retirement to be treated as staff with all staff travel facilities and medical benefits, thereafter to be treated as retired and implement the company rules.
6. Any application is rejected by the management, should be compensated by a suitable package.
7. 25% increment to all of gulf air nationals (Bahraini & Omani) in order to compensate for inflation as well as the on going freeze on promotions and annual increments.
And these were generally the people you see swiping in and then either, (a)parking the car and getting to their desks 20mins later or (b) going off to take their kids to school and coming back an hour later or (c) driving off and coming back at 3pm to swipe out!
They should have had the door shut on them and told to come back at 3 to clear their desks!
C'mon, turn it around and provide this package to the expats instead, then all the Bahraini & Omani staff can keep their jobs...well for couple of months at least.. it should last about that long under management with that kind of sense.
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C'mon, turn it around and provide this package to the expats instead, then all the Bahraini & Omani staff can keep their jobs...well for couple of months at least.. it should last about that long under management with that kind of sense
The above along with much of the rest of your post implies that nationals are lazy brats who don't do their job. I am sure there are people like that BUT...What about the nationals who do work hard day in and day out? (don't tell me they don't exist because I know they do exist) Don't you think you are being extremely unfair to them? Also your comments imply that hard work is an attribute that is limited to expats only. This is biased. Again I am not just sure, I actually know there are plenty of expats who work very hard. But, I am also equally sure that those nationals who you are slamming as being lazy (along with the hard working expats) can also tell you about many expats who also get away with little to no hard work.
If you want judge people do so by thier actions not by where they come from.