EK Resignations
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From: Blighty
Nope.
There was a seperate thread by "Capt Pruner" started on 29/9/09 that he himself deleted. No idea why, but it is his right as the original poster.
No subversive reasons
EGGW.
There was a seperate thread by "Capt Pruner" started on 29/9/09 that he himself deleted. No idea why, but it is his right as the original poster.
No subversive reasons
EGGW.
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From: DontBai
Back on topic,
As per the latest update, "They still have large numbers of quality applicants" but if you guys want to recommend anybody it'll be more than welcome. Yeah I'm telling all my friends as I type.
As per the latest update, "They still have large numbers of quality applicants" but if you guys want to recommend anybody it'll be more than welcome. Yeah I'm telling all my friends as I type.
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From: uae
You do not live in the real world in DXB. Just look at the experence level of most of the new hires. Lots of very experenced pilots still appling and BTW they too are appling to all the other jobs that the EK pilots are appling to and A - think is better than EK and B- think the job is a given when they apply. There has been a few 777 EK Capts apply to KAL get offered a job and later turned in down maybe ask them why they did that. As mentioned fire to fry pan thing.But go for it if you think its the better move. The more that leave will put pressure on EK managment and you might see an improvement .
Good luck to those that leave, Ill be right behind you when a better job show up.
Good luck to those that leave, Ill be right behind you when a better job show up.
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From: Dubai
Good luck to all of us leaving, and we wish also the best to the ones who stay.
Pilots we are, and here we stand. We can be a big family, wherever we are coming from and goint to.
If EK, GF, QR or EY ever learnt a lesson from the resignations, it would be well known..... but anyway, if one day insh allah they are, I wish you sincerely all the best.
Pilots we are, and here we stand. We can be a big family, wherever we are coming from and goint to.
If EK, GF, QR or EY ever learnt a lesson from the resignations, it would be well known..... but anyway, if one day insh allah they are, I wish you sincerely all the best.
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From: Post-Pit and Lovin' It.
What qualifies as a good job to one person may not to the next, and thus it will ever be. It doesn't answer the question as to why so many are leaving the "best job in the world" (according to those legends-in-their-own-minds, Emirates management).
Maybe they will have trouble replacing the resignations with quality, maybe they won't. I don't care. I just love seeing them actually have to. The training, joining, and repatriation costs alone must be horrendous but the loss of face is the true cost and it looks good on them. I hope it doesn't affect our profit share too much next year! They can lie to themselves as much as they want but it doesn't accomplish much.
I'm sure in an effort to cut costs, they'll continue to cut the T&C's, which will hardly enhance the ability to attract quality, and around and around it will go. I believe that would be analogous to being behind the power curve. Bang up job in management guys, keep up the good work! It was only predicted about forever ago.
Maybe they will have trouble replacing the resignations with quality, maybe they won't. I don't care. I just love seeing them actually have to. The training, joining, and repatriation costs alone must be horrendous but the loss of face is the true cost and it looks good on them. I hope it doesn't affect our profit share too much next year! They can lie to themselves as much as they want but it doesn't accomplish much.
I'm sure in an effort to cut costs, they'll continue to cut the T&C's, which will hardly enhance the ability to attract quality, and around and around it will go. I believe that would be analogous to being behind the power curve. Bang up job in management guys, keep up the good work! It was only predicted about forever ago.
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flaphandlemover cites 143 resignations in his post above.
Can someone confirm that number? Since what date? Even if you apply the first rule of rumours, (halve the figure originally given and then divide that answer by two), it's still a very large number. I can remember the days at EK when two in a year were enough to get people talking.
I have no first hand knowledge of KAL. However, have a good friend there on the 777 who wishes he was anywhere else, and another one who's more or less happy - be he did NOT enjoy his initial training.
Can someone confirm that number? Since what date? Even if you apply the first rule of rumours, (halve the figure originally given and then divide that answer by two), it's still a very large number. I can remember the days at EK when two in a year were enough to get people talking.
I have no first hand knowledge of KAL. However, have a good friend there on the 777 who wishes he was anywhere else, and another one who's more or less happy - be he did NOT enjoy his initial training.
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From: Hotel all over the world
143 resignations....???
Hi Folks,
heard 10 days ago that around 135 resigned....around 3 months notice period so guess this number is how many will leave in the next 3 months.....
Going home soon and looking forward to it !!!
Greetings from the sandpit ,
flyneo
heard 10 days ago that around 135 resigned....around 3 months notice period so guess this number is how many will leave in the next 3 months.....
Going home soon and looking forward to it !!!
Greetings from the sandpit ,
flyneo
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From: uk
Hi all, Maybe this can be settled once and for all by all those leaving attending the SIDS and STARS evening on the 26th Oct.
Before all the negative posts come flying regarding the event being taken over by the EPI group, I believe they do have to right to advertise as they see fit, and we, the individual have the right that whilst we drink their booze to at least listen to what they have to say.
It would be great to see a huge turn out and wish all those alleged people leaving, a wonderful life....
Before all the negative posts come flying regarding the event being taken over by the EPI group, I believe they do have to right to advertise as they see fit, and we, the individual have the right that whilst we drink their booze to at least listen to what they have to say.
It would be great to see a huge turn out and wish all those alleged people leaving, a wonderful life....
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From: Wherever the moment takes me!
And the kicks keep on coming!
I hope it doesn't affect our profit share too much next year!
I reckon there are two chances of us getting profit share this year! - and we all know what they are...
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From: Dubai
Much as I'd love that figure of 143 to be true, I'm afraid it's not. According to a source who has no political reason to tell me porkies...it's closer to 40 this calendar year. Shoot me if I'm wrong, but I get a little bit tired of numbers being inflated by every iteration of the rumour mill.
Don't shoot the messenger..just don't get your hopes up of a payrise based on these sort of numbers.
Don't shoot the messenger..just don't get your hopes up of a payrise based on these sort of numbers.
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From: korea
Your probably correct Camel Kisser, 40 so far, but 137 plus or minus a few have resignations which become effective over the next 3 months or so, but who's counting. Ouch thats gonna hurt at least until the next suckers arrive.
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From: Home
Doesn't matter too much really what the exact numbers are. Guys are leaving EK, and the company are going to find it extremely hard to recruit enough pilots just to cover the rate of attrition. Let alone any requirement for expansion of the fleet.
EK have shown their true colours, and now they will have to lie in the bed they have made for themselves. They might not feel the full effects for another 6 months or so, but when they do it will be too late.
Oh well.....
EK have shown their true colours, and now they will have to lie in the bed they have made for themselves. They might not feel the full effects for another 6 months or so, but when they do it will be too late.
Oh well.....
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From: united arab emirates
Perhaps what EK fail to realise is that the current 1 to 2% attrition is during one of the worst periods in the history of the Aviation Industry. Ie Very few jobs out there etc. So if times are bad and guys are leaving they better hold on tight because when the market swings they will truly understand the meaning of " Atonement"
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From: Home
American Tune?
Words & music by paul simon
Manys the time Ive been mistaken
And many times confused
Yes, and often felt forsaken
And certainly misused
Oh, but Im alright, Im alright
Im just weary to my bones
Still, you dont expect to be
Bright and bon vivant
So far a-way from home, so far away from home
I dont know a soul whos not been battered
I dont have a friend who feels at ease
I dont know a dream thats not been shattered
Or driven to its knees
Oh, but its alright, its alright
For we lived so well so long
Still, when I think of the
Road were traveling on
I wonder whats gone wrong
I cant help it, I wonder whats gone wrong
Manys the time Ive been mistaken
And many times confused
Yes, and often felt forsaken
And certainly misused
Oh, but Im alright, Im alright
Im just weary to my bones
Still, you dont expect to be
Bright and bon vivant
So far a-way from home, so far away from home
I dont know a soul whos not been battered
I dont have a friend who feels at ease
I dont know a dream thats not been shattered
Or driven to its knees
Oh, but its alright, its alright
For we lived so well so long
Still, when I think of the
Road were traveling on
I wonder whats gone wrong
I cant help it, I wonder whats gone wrong
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From: Eternal Beach
AC/DC
Living easy, living free
Season ticket on a one-way ride
Asking nothing, leave me be
Taking everything in my stride
Dont need reason, dont need rhyme
Aint nothing I would rather do
Going down, party time
My friends are gonna be there too
Im on the highway to hell
No stop signs, speed limit
Nobodys gonna slow me down
Like a wheel, gonna spin it
Nobodys gonna mess me round
Hey satan, payed my dues
Playing in a rocking band
Hey momma, look at me
Im on my way to the promised land
Im on the highway to hell
(dont stop me)
And Im going down, all the way down
Im on the highway to hell
halas
ps:good Oz rock!
And what is it with N/A lyrical bullsh!t anyway?
Season ticket on a one-way ride
Asking nothing, leave me be
Taking everything in my stride
Dont need reason, dont need rhyme
Aint nothing I would rather do
Going down, party time
My friends are gonna be there too
Im on the highway to hell
No stop signs, speed limit
Nobodys gonna slow me down
Like a wheel, gonna spin it
Nobodys gonna mess me round
Hey satan, payed my dues
Playing in a rocking band
Hey momma, look at me
Im on my way to the promised land
Im on the highway to hell
(dont stop me)
And Im going down, all the way down
Im on the highway to hell
halas
ps:good Oz rock!
And what is it with N/A lyrical bullsh!t anyway?