Qatar's package and Working conditions
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wasted energy...
There used to be some great threads on this forum answering all your questions in detail. Some people had made a great effort providing all the information one could need before going for the interview or consider joining.
Unfortunately these threads have been removed. QR's top management didn't like them and started some legal stuff against the guys running this site. Knowing the determination of certain people in Qatar I can understand that it might have been a good move to prevent further damage and to remove these threads.
But I doubt that the people who had given a lot of their precious time writing lots of good advice will again put in the same effort again...sorry
Basically what happened with these threads says a lot about the management of this airline, doesn't it?
Nevertheless, good luck with your application and don't forget to check Emirates and Etihad before even considering Doha and QR!
Unfortunately these threads have been removed. QR's top management didn't like them and started some legal stuff against the guys running this site. Knowing the determination of certain people in Qatar I can understand that it might have been a good move to prevent further damage and to remove these threads.
But I doubt that the people who had given a lot of their precious time writing lots of good advice will again put in the same effort again...sorry
Basically what happened with these threads says a lot about the management of this airline, doesn't it?
Nevertheless, good luck with your application and don't forget to check Emirates and Etihad before even considering Doha and QR!
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QR is hiring type rated pilots on A320/330 and B777 at the moment
Non type rated will stop next month. Too many applicants looking for a cheap TRTO to get a good rating I guess.
Non type rated will stop next month. Too many applicants looking for a cheap TRTO to get a good rating I guess.
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ArielDC10, hi there. My friend, you wanna get hired invest 10 sec of your time and do some research. You'll find a vast number of all kind of information about the wages and the interview. Besides a lot of info is published on the company web side itself.
Cheers.
Cheers.
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The last several posts are sea-change indicative, pilots are interested and asking questions. Very good. But your questions asked, seem all about what rating will I get and how much will I earn. Unless you are planning a quick exit there are other far more important questions to ask.
Struck dumb and dont know what to ask? Dad go ask your wife and kids what they expect.
For info, the company does finally see this 'quality of life' issue as vitally important and all current pilots have been invited to comment on a plan to acquire a suitable compound for flight crew with all the expected amenities. This may be a very long and possibly fruitless diversion if history is a credible resource.
Damn.... I think I hid something positive in there somewhere! Well credit given where credit due.
But still, for some familys it is good, but just too late....
Struck dumb and dont know what to ask? Dad go ask your wife and kids what they expect.
For info, the company does finally see this 'quality of life' issue as vitally important and all current pilots have been invited to comment on a plan to acquire a suitable compound for flight crew with all the expected amenities. This may be a very long and possibly fruitless diversion if history is a credible resource.
Damn.... I think I hid something positive in there somewhere! Well credit given where credit due.
But still, for some familys it is good, but just too late....
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Spot on BS
Its the same story as the parking facilities for the Tech building. Yes there will be dedicated parking for the Tech building, with rumours of a multi-story car park. Now .... sorry its too late because will be at the new airport soon. Oh, and by the way, there will be no parking for the Flightcrew there. OK parking is not a big deal, and dodging the traffic while crossing the airport road (thats nearly finished now!) carrying a flightbag and suitcase can make/or death entertaining. The point is, the pointlessness of it - Lies and subterfuge are rife' but its part of the rich pattern. Again, spot on BS.
"Out dam spot"
"Out dam spot"
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well if you think that Q.A. cares about the huge risk we take everytime we have to cross this street(because this is a real risk here, with all those idiot ,brainless drivers here!).Management have their own parking stand..that´s enough..!
Accidents happen YEARS ago, they known it.....and what was the reaction of the company....NOTHING!
Oh yes i forgot.. the LOL insurance is there anyway...so why we should be worried...?
Accidents happen YEARS ago, they known it.....and what was the reaction of the company....NOTHING!
Oh yes i forgot.. the LOL insurance is there anyway...so why we should be worried...?
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Hey Deutscher
Congratulations!
Important in life is not to regret anything later. Although I made some pretty bad experiences with this company and their bosses I look back on my time with Qatar Airways as a good lesson in life.
Been there, done it!
Just a piece of advice: wherever you're planning to leave now, don't burn your bridges, keep in touch with everybody back home and always make sure that there's an emergency exit available! If you have that option in your bag, you'll actually be able to enjoy a bit of your Doha turnaround (for lots of guys it's even a quick turnaround...)
So go there, be happy with your decision, stop reading pprune for a while, enjoy your new life, but most importantly DON'T LOOK BACK and DON'T COMPARE with your previous life (for about a year).
After one year look back and compare. And then get back on this forum and let us know with all your honesty, how Doha and Qatar Airways compare to the real world. Let's hope we can look forward to some positive posts, inshallah!
Take care!
Congratulations!
Important in life is not to regret anything later. Although I made some pretty bad experiences with this company and their bosses I look back on my time with Qatar Airways as a good lesson in life.
Been there, done it!
Just a piece of advice: wherever you're planning to leave now, don't burn your bridges, keep in touch with everybody back home and always make sure that there's an emergency exit available! If you have that option in your bag, you'll actually be able to enjoy a bit of your Doha turnaround (for lots of guys it's even a quick turnaround...)
So go there, be happy with your decision, stop reading pprune for a while, enjoy your new life, but most importantly DON'T LOOK BACK and DON'T COMPARE with your previous life (for about a year).
After one year look back and compare. And then get back on this forum and let us know with all your honesty, how Doha and Qatar Airways compare to the real world. Let's hope we can look forward to some positive posts, inshallah!
Take care!
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But your questions asked, seem all about what rating will I get and how much will I e
I think I've heard and read enough about QR to know what to expect. If I still end up coming, I guarantee you it won't be for the fresh summer breeze.
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Dont throw the bone away yet Too Low
Hey Too Low,
I am sure you have several irons glowing red hot right now. It is now Management's time to row the boat, pilots can enjoy riding the waves for a long while yet.
Suggestion: If QR is low on your list because you dont want to live in Doha, but you dont want to cross the airline off completely, then why not make them an offer??
Example: "I am willing to work with you at QR, but my family cannot/will not live in Doha. What can you do?"
This solution is actually profitable, sensible and although short sighted people cannot see it yet, it is the airline's destiny.
I am sure you have several irons glowing red hot right now. It is now Management's time to row the boat, pilots can enjoy riding the waves for a long while yet.
Suggestion: If QR is low on your list because you dont want to live in Doha, but you dont want to cross the airline off completely, then why not make them an offer??
Example: "I am willing to work with you at QR, but my family cannot/will not live in Doha. What can you do?"
This solution is actually profitable, sensible and although short sighted people cannot see it yet, it is the airline's destiny.
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Anyone thinking of buying a property in Doha please have a look at the 5 best cities in the US. THe winner is
Walla Walla, Washington
Population: 30,000
Maximum income tax: 0%
Sales tax: 8.3%
Typical three-bedroom house: $275,000
Est. property tax: $3,500 to $4,100
This southeastern Washington town has become a destination for wine connoisseurs, urban refugees and roving retirees, despite its out-of-the-way location. 19th century Italianate-style commercial buildings are being revamped to house art galleries, bookstores and restaurants. Three colleges are hubs of activity for retirees, who can enjoy classical music, lectures or lifelong learning classes. Walla Walla home prices, up more than 50% over the past five years, are still affordable by big-city standards.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/money...PL0827425.html
Now compare that to three bed room apartment in the Perl something like 500000 US$. On top of that the mortgage isn't insured against income shortfall. Lets see how successful the project will be.
Cheers.
Walla Walla, Washington
Population: 30,000
Maximum income tax: 0%
Sales tax: 8.3%
Typical three-bedroom house: $275,000
Est. property tax: $3,500 to $4,100
This southeastern Washington town has become a destination for wine connoisseurs, urban refugees and roving retirees, despite its out-of-the-way location. 19th century Italianate-style commercial buildings are being revamped to house art galleries, bookstores and restaurants. Three colleges are hubs of activity for retirees, who can enjoy classical music, lectures or lifelong learning classes. Walla Walla home prices, up more than 50% over the past five years, are still affordable by big-city standards.
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/money...PL0827425.html
Now compare that to three bed room apartment in the Perl something like 500000 US$. On top of that the mortgage isn't insured against income shortfall. Lets see how successful the project will be.
Cheers.
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Hey folks, don't get mad get rich!!!
It's kind of too silent, even getting scary!!!! Hello.......anyone alive out there? Speak up!!! It's dark and lonely in the virtual world. Come on gals lets have some fun!!
It's kind of too silent, even getting scary!!!! Hello.......anyone alive out there? Speak up!!! It's dark and lonely in the virtual world. Come on gals lets have some fun!!
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after the storm...
Hi guys,
after the last burning emails everybody withdraw into their own lairs...
... but I have a an easy question (back to earth please)
Can anyone tell me how are the roasters on the A320 ?(layovers/destinations)
Tks
after the last burning emails everybody withdraw into their own lairs...
... but I have a an easy question (back to earth please)
Can anyone tell me how are the roasters on the A320 ?(layovers/destinations)
Tks
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A320 Rosters... you picked a fun topic Plutos.
50 hours stick with 120 hours duty, to
80 hours stick with 150 hours duty.
How is it possible to get a roster where the ratio of Duty Time to Flight Time is more than 2:1 ??
BAH return: 8 hours duty for 1.2 hours flight time
DXB return: 8 hours duty for 2.0 hours flight time
AUH return: 8 hours duty for 1.8 hours flight time
KWI return: 8 hours duty for 2.5 hours flight time
MCT return: 8 hours duty for 2.6 hours flight time.
The above dutys are all night duties
You can expect to do at least 4 of these every month, sometimes strung three in a row....
Top of the list obsene duty is the 4 sector split night duty around the gulf. The rules were changed to make this duty legal. 12 hours duty, split between the 3rd and 4th sector for the minimum 3 hours. Rest taken on board. You will get at least one of these every month.
On top of that you can expect night duties for 22 hour stopovers in TRV, COK, MAA, HYD, CMB, NBO. If you complain to the CP about your ****ty life you will get the odd SEZ, DAR or VIE.
Your remaining duties will be a few early starts or late finishes on short sectors around the gulf.
You may see the odd day flight on your roster, but 90% of those available are preselected by the training department. When will the training slow down? Never.
Are you Qatari Plutos? If so delete all of the above.
50 hours stick with 120 hours duty, to
80 hours stick with 150 hours duty.
How is it possible to get a roster where the ratio of Duty Time to Flight Time is more than 2:1 ??
BAH return: 8 hours duty for 1.2 hours flight time
DXB return: 8 hours duty for 2.0 hours flight time
AUH return: 8 hours duty for 1.8 hours flight time
KWI return: 8 hours duty for 2.5 hours flight time
MCT return: 8 hours duty for 2.6 hours flight time.
The above dutys are all night duties
You can expect to do at least 4 of these every month, sometimes strung three in a row....
Top of the list obsene duty is the 4 sector split night duty around the gulf. The rules were changed to make this duty legal. 12 hours duty, split between the 3rd and 4th sector for the minimum 3 hours. Rest taken on board. You will get at least one of these every month.
On top of that you can expect night duties for 22 hour stopovers in TRV, COK, MAA, HYD, CMB, NBO. If you complain to the CP about your ****ty life you will get the odd SEZ, DAR or VIE.
Your remaining duties will be a few early starts or late finishes on short sectors around the gulf.
You may see the odd day flight on your roster, but 90% of those available are preselected by the training department. When will the training slow down? Never.
Are you Qatari Plutos? If so delete all of the above.
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