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Would you join EK if you could turn the clock back?

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Old 25th Apr 2007, 21:43
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"Wow try decaf buddy"

I'm not your buddy Austin, but I guess it's just in your nature to tell other people what to do or try. If I were your buddy I'd have this advice for you: don't disqualify people's opinions based on where they come from example: "me thinks remove status comes from some grimy third world country",... you'll come across as a bigot. Also don't cast the first stone and ridicule those who don't share your opinion and then act shocked when the same happens to you. You are right though, I was too harsh in my comments but your ignorance is hard to suffer. My apologies, fly safe and I hope you leave EK and find your happiness soon.
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Old 26th Apr 2007, 01:19
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Yo 67D......... high 5 man good work.

A Holed....12R or 20R at 15? you seem to be misaligned.
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Old 26th Apr 2007, 05:31
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NO ... In the last five years the number of "cost neutral changes" that have adversely affected pilots pay and lifestyle is hard to stomach.
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Old 26th Apr 2007, 07:20
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Every month another cost neutral policy change for the worse of the pilot group. Every month the dollar falls lower. Evey month the traffic in Dubai gets more congested. Every month our internet provider blocks or shuts down another technological aspect of our lives. Every month more DECs come and take our jobs.
Where does it all end? What do these people want from us? Gives us back our sanity and let us lead our lives how we see fit.
I know back to reality. That will not happen in the middle east so it is time to go and pack up the camel and return to the real world.
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Old 26th Apr 2007, 11:50
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No.
I'm happy, but still no.
Too many lies, half truths and street tactics.
They hate us and the feeling is mutual.
Individuals may be happy but Dubai is not a happy community and EK is not (generally) a happy place to work.
My opinion.
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Old 26th Apr 2007, 12:57
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'Individuals may be happy but Dubai is not a happy community and EK is not (generally) a happy place to work.'

Very good way of putting it.
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Old 27th Apr 2007, 15:39
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Family is packing up and heading back to good ole USA. As for me, I will be commuting for awhile and eventually pack up.

I would not do it again if I can turn back the clock
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Old 27th Apr 2007, 15:55
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Its so simple EK,
Im leaving to an airline that bases me at my real home for more money.
If you could have used me from home base i would have stayed.
Dubai is a terrible place to bring up your kids, especially as they grow older.
Good riddens Dubai...................
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Old 27th Apr 2007, 23:19
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Ah CAYNINE, it's the one two zero radial at 15 DME.
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Old 28th Apr 2007, 04:34
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Smile Oh Lord, where I can find the best airline to work for!!!!!!!

For some of you that are looking for the best among the best jobs in the business, please let me know where they are. Chances are that everywhere one might end up in these days, it will not be like what used to be. Benefits compatible with the risks and responsabilties we take, are long gone.
Despite the fact that EK might not be the paradise for some, it still has one of the best pilot packages on the market.
Unfortunatelly, being an expat in such a foreigner country make us from time to time dream about how life was better back home and how happier we where when we started in this business. The older you get more nostalgic are the histories we hear from friends and acquaintances. Life was better for the majority of the people I know. So looking for happiness some place else is a personnal choice and risk. Happiness is what should guide oneself.
So for you that think that you are in the wrong palce working for the wrong company, just leave. Maybe the working place improves with the motivated people that stayed behind.
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Old 28th Apr 2007, 07:41
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I do concede the point that ANYWHERE is better than CAL. Not the greatest argument to defend EK with though and probably not something they can use in the glossy pilots salespitch DVD's.
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Old 28th Apr 2007, 07:58
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quoted by Rambo:
"Its so simple EK, Im leaving to an airline that bases me at my real home for more money. If you could have used me from home base i would have stayed.
Dubai is a terrible place to bring up your kids, especially as they grow older"


...that's spot on - and i know for sure, that today (day one after this disgusting & disgraceful slap in the face with a single (!) month profit-share by our greedy wonnabe-managers) the resignments will pour in massivly -
icluding mine, as soon, as i've passed the interview in Europe at the end of the month!

EMIRATES is definitively going downhill- like the whole lifestyle and payment in DXB -which once (long time ago!) was one of the best You can get!

But thanks to TCAS and others - EK is just "another average job in the ME"

- just my thoughts - and /bet on it/ next christmas won't be in Silicon oasisi - rather back in Europe in a nice country, with educated & polite people, who CAN drive cars and RESPECT the others !
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Old 28th Apr 2007, 08:51
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Mmm.......................that's the UK out then!
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Old 28th Apr 2007, 11:43
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Talking

"with educated & polite people" OZ must be out as well, too bad the country is great.
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 08:37
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Well looks like the new TCs pay rise , Bonus and 6 percent pay HIKE have done wonders for retention. From FEB to APRIL 8 captains and 6 Fos have resigned. EK must be doing something right!!!
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Old 29th Apr 2007, 19:41
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Bikker, don't think these months are valid indicators.. As usual, people just hang on a few extra months to get the bonus. They might regret it though now they know that it's only one month...

I expect a high resignation rate just after the bonus has been paid out... looks like it will be a hot summer again.

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Old 30th Apr 2007, 05:59
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No, I would not have come.

For me, with kids, I actually misjudged Dubai. EK is pretty much what I expected, even though it has deteriorated in the last few years.

Dubai however is another story. From lousy customer service in almost every category, traffic that is a DANGER (not just gridlocked but DANGEROUS) to you and your family, and a legal/enforcement system that biases Emirati's vice expats'...

I would not have come....

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Old 30th Apr 2007, 14:27
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Another knob justifying his own position....good for you. Didn't get the job offer?
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Old 30th Apr 2007, 14:36
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wee one - sorry pal but there's no way I'd live as chattel under blair/brown

The pit's better for personal choice than UK/Europe. Yes, I have a JAR licence too I just don't get why you'd want to work for a charter company in UK.... Tenerife and back five days a week - you're welcome
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Old 30th Apr 2007, 15:58
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Funnily enough Wee one the flying side of things has been quiet this year - at least for myself. 59 hrs jan, 59 hrs feb, 33 hrs mar and 62 apr. Think the BOING fellas are taking the heat at the mo I'm not complaining... Sure you'll be off to Tf soon with the summer sun shell-suit folks
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