Captain America and more Emirates P.R.
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Captain America and more Emirates P.R. (now morphing into worlds best DC9 (U2)pilot
Looks like the EK PR Department are at it again Full page article in the Chicargo Tribune here
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For the first time since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, all major U.S. airlines are hiring pilots or recalling those laid off during the industry's five-year downturn.
But the airlines are discovering that many of the 10,000 pilots who lost their jobs during those bleak years aren't interested in returning to their old lives.
Many pilots, faced with salary cuts of 35 percent or more, moved to overseas carriers, such as Emirates Airline and Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd. Others took higher-paying jobs with overnight carriers such as FedEx Corp. and United Parcel Service Inc.
Joe Marquardt, 50, left a 17-year career at Northwest Airlines last year for Emirates, as the Minnesota-based carrier phased out the DC-9 jets he flew.
He already had lost one-third of his salary in pay cuts, Marquardt said, and he faced a demotion to a smaller plane, which would mean another pay reduction.
"It got to the point where we couldn't keep the house," Marquardt said.
Now, Marquardt enjoys a life of golf and beachcombing in Dubai, as well as the free housing provided by Emirates, which employs him as a Boeing 777 captain."It's hard to match that back home," Marquardt said.
But the airlines are discovering that many of the 10,000 pilots who lost their jobs during those bleak years aren't interested in returning to their old lives.
Many pilots, faced with salary cuts of 35 percent or more, moved to overseas carriers, such as Emirates Airline and Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd. Others took higher-paying jobs with overnight carriers such as FedEx Corp. and United Parcel Service Inc.
Joe Marquardt, 50, left a 17-year career at Northwest Airlines last year for Emirates, as the Minnesota-based carrier phased out the DC-9 jets he flew.
He already had lost one-third of his salary in pay cuts, Marquardt said, and he faced a demotion to a smaller plane, which would mean another pay reduction.
"It got to the point where we couldn't keep the house," Marquardt said.
Now, Marquardt enjoys a life of golf and beachcombing in Dubai, as well as the free housing provided by Emirates, which employs him as a Boeing 777 captain."It's hard to match that back home," Marquardt said.
Even so, old-line carriers no longer can claim a monopoly on hiring the best and the brightest pilots.
The best recruiters, the overseas airliners are discovering, are the pilots themselves. Marquardt, for one, has started a blog for pilots pondering following in his footsteps.
The best recruiters, the overseas airliners are discovering, are the pilots themselves. Marquardt, for one, has started a blog for pilots pondering following in his footsteps.
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Well. these people have the right to feel how they feel. I think there is a big difference between the bloke here and Captain America. At least this guy isn't trying to defend himself with dual identities and saying nice things about himself pretending to be someone else.
Where Captain America was (is) just a patethic looser and liar, this guy might just like it here.
I did however try to find his blog, just wondering if it's all sunshine and honeymoon sweetness, or is the guy also writing about the undeniable negative aspects of Dubai? So if anybody knows about the blog, please post the address here, or pm me if you think it's unappropriate to link it in public..
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Where Captain America was (is) just a patethic looser and liar, this guy might just like it here.
I did however try to find his blog, just wondering if it's all sunshine and honeymoon sweetness, or is the guy also writing about the undeniable negative aspects of Dubai? So if anybody knows about the blog, please post the address here, or pm me if you think it's unappropriate to link it in public..
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Hey uplock, you spelled Chicargo just like my dad used to teach. Chicken on the car, car won't go, that's how you spell ChiCAgo. Said in his best New York accent of course 
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In fairness to EK, it's not hard to believe stories like this. NW, after all, is an airline that put out advice to employees which advocated delving into dumpsters for food! By all accounts, morale at this airline in particular - whatever about others - is very poor.
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So DC9 to 777....well done Capt Joe....Is this the level of experience that EK are now down to?....
EK must base recruitment on how much good PR these folks can generate, how sad, used to be on ability
EK must base recruitment on how much good PR these folks can generate, how sad, used to be on ability
At age 50 working 10 years for EK will shave 10-20 years of his life, no need for a retirement fund .....
Scooter,
A quick check shows that you've been bitching about EK since 2005. Surley enough time to find alternate employment?
146qrh,
Just to confirm, you are using this public web-site to impune this gentlemans ability?
A quick check shows that you've been bitching about EK since 2005. Surley enough time to find alternate employment?
146qrh,
Just to confirm, you are using this public web-site to impune this gentlemans ability?
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Isnt the thread supposed to be about this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq2_YKQGE_U
Where did ya go scoot cause im bustin to get outta here.........
Where did ya go scoot cause im bustin to get outta here.........
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIAQi...elated&search=
This one's about the driving in Dubai. Unfortunately its mostly the innocent ones getting killed.
Deny this Captain America,maybe when ED takes the fall for the lack of recruits, even though its caused by the incompetent upper management , but a white boy has to take the blame for it , you can have his job. And boy you will need a mighty shield.
This one's about the driving in Dubai. Unfortunately its mostly the innocent ones getting killed.
Deny this Captain America,maybe when ED takes the fall for the lack of recruits, even though its caused by the incompetent upper management , but a white boy has to take the blame for it , you can have his job. And boy you will need a mighty shield.
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145QRH,
Yeah,really scraping the bottom of the barrel there, cause obviously a DC 9 driver who has been with a US major for 17 years has no clue how to operate a jet and would clearly be a huge liability. Guess all the good 777 recruits magically were born flying on type and have decades of experience.
Yeah,really scraping the bottom of the barrel there, cause obviously a DC 9 driver who has been with a US major for 17 years has no clue how to operate a jet and would clearly be a huge liability. Guess all the good 777 recruits magically were born flying on type and have decades of experience.
I think you'll find that to be a DC9 Captain at a US legacy carrier, he's flown every thing with wings as an FO (Not to mention that I believe he's an ex U2 Pilot!!).
The whole DEC question may be contentious, but to let it run over into questioning a guys ability just because he answers a reporters questions is not cricket (or Baseball either!).
The whole DEC question may be contentious, but to let it run over into questioning a guys ability just because he answers a reporters questions is not cricket (or Baseball either!).
No one is questioning his ability, well I am not, but as Seaman said he has little or no relevant expereince, EK needs relevant expereince. U2 pilot , great, if we ever need to take overhead shots of the places we fly to otherwise not much good. As for everthing with wings I pretty much doubt that he flew them in command .
Emirates lacks experience at the moment, over half the 777 crew have been with EK less than 18 months , and most of them had no longhall, or heavy jet before joining .
So where does that leave us....up effluent creek without a human interface self power unit...no doubt as ED, sorry CAPT Ed would say in Americanese
The Americas seem to be a fertile recruiting gound for Ek at them moment, for which I have no beef, but it screws the rest out of a descent payrise as they are willing to work for piss poor T's and C's, and seem to be happy with that because its better than back home. They seem to miss the fact that although it's better than home it's not the going rate for the job.
Roll on the revolution.
great, if we ever need to take overhead shots of the places we fly to otherwise not much good. As for everthing with wings I pretty much doubt that he flew them in command .Emirates lacks experience at the moment, over half the 777 crew have been with EK less than 18 months , and most of them had no longhall, or heavy jet before joining .
So where does that leave us....up effluent creek without a human interface self power unit...no doubt as ED, sorry CAPT Ed would say in Americanese
The Americas seem to be a fertile recruiting gound for Ek at them moment, for which I have no beef, but it screws the rest out of a descent payrise as they are willing to work for piss poor T's and C's, and seem to be happy with that because its better than back home. They seem to miss the fact that although it's better than home it's not the going rate for the job.
Roll on the revolution.
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It is not likely to change, guys.
If EK needs direct entry Captains, they will hire 'em, like it or not.
Notice I said CAPTAINS.
Not co-pilots, upgrading to the LHS.
If, on the other hand, you had wanted to be a Captain at EK, you should have hired in as one...not complain now that you didn't.
If EK needs direct entry Captains, they will hire 'em, like it or not.
Notice I said CAPTAINS.
Not co-pilots, upgrading to the LHS.
If, on the other hand, you had wanted to be a Captain at EK, you should have hired in as one...not complain now that you didn't.
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The Americas seem to be a fertile recruiting gound for Ek at them moment, for which I have no beef, but it screws the rest out of a descent payrise as they are willing to work for piss poor T's and C's, and seem to be happy with that because its better than back home. They seem to miss the fact that although it's better than home it's not the going rate for the job.
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Hey TP I used my spill chucker this time...Depends which numbers you would like to look at and what side of the pond your from
Where most of us have taken huge broad sides and direct hits has been the devaluation of the American Dollar against the Euro and The Pound and the Australian , New Zealand and Canadian Dollars.
With the AED or Dirham tied to the US $ it has been a pay rise for those who have assets or income back in the States.
On paper it looks like a pay rise ... and yes your doing ok if your from the US however in real terms my buying power today is much less than what it was when I joined ( over 30% less) due to the exchange rate and this sucks.
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I think you'll find that to be a DC9 Captain at a US legacy carrier, he's flown every thing with wings as an FO (Not to mention that I believe he's an ex U2 Pilot!!).
. Successfully operating a modern airliner, on a significantly diverse route structure is not about whether you have lots of Chuck Yeager'ish skill flying a Beaver/DC9/737/U2 aircraft in the US. Its about relevant domain experience, that's what many of our new DEC's are missing, it takes time to get, pure and simple. There is no doubt its not brain surgery, but you would not give a brain surgeon the job of heading up an orthopedics department.