Life after EK
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Ok. Lets try and be civil here.
Why would you say I have a tenant grip on reality? I honestly don’t see it that way. And quite honestly neither does the majority of the drivers in EK. The recruitment department is working flat out to address the shortfall of pilots. Its not as if they are ignoring our plight. My last company had a shortage of drivers but refused to hire. That’s a gripe.
I just cant see the point of all this moaning. Scheduling call on a day off. SAY NO or is it the 800dhms is just too much to miss out on.
Why would you say I have a tenant grip on reality? I honestly don’t see it that way. And quite honestly neither does the majority of the drivers in EK. The recruitment department is working flat out to address the shortfall of pilots. Its not as if they are ignoring our plight. My last company had a shortage of drivers but refused to hire. That’s a gripe.
I just cant see the point of all this moaning. Scheduling call on a day off. SAY NO or is it the 800dhms is just too much to miss out on.
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Just to set the record straight for those who don’t have access to the portal.
OCT RESIGNATIONS 0
NOV RESIGNATIONS 0
DEC RESIGNATIONS 3
2 Capt. One medical. RH and GH
1 F/O GH who’s staff no starts with 36…… probably never saw the line anyway.
OCT RESIGNATIONS 0
NOV RESIGNATIONS 0
DEC RESIGNATIONS 3
2 Capt. One medical. RH and GH
1 F/O GH who’s staff no starts with 36…… probably never saw the line anyway.
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Waldorfin, please look up the difference between tenuous and tenant in the dictionary.
As for your statement that the majority of EK drivers are happy I personally KNOW this to be not the case, most are deeply unhappy with the downward spiral of terms and conditions and the increasing hours and the knockon effect on home life. Many ARE looking elsewhere and when a suitable offer comes up ARE leaving
As for 800 DHS on a day off, this is a laughable amount to give up one of your valuable (and increasingly rare) days off. Charter companies in the UK are generally giving about six times this amount for working on a day off
As for your statement that the majority of EK drivers are happy I personally KNOW this to be not the case, most are deeply unhappy with the downward spiral of terms and conditions and the increasing hours and the knockon effect on home life. Many ARE looking elsewhere and when a suitable offer comes up ARE leaving
As for 800 DHS on a day off, this is a laughable amount to give up one of your valuable (and increasingly rare) days off. Charter companies in the UK are generally giving about six times this amount for working on a day off
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Kurt
English is obviously not your first language son. You spoke of a tenuous grip. I replied by explaining that as a tenant, I own my thoughts. This may have been lost on you chap however we live and learn. Lets dispense with the literary garb and onto the facts please.
So its 2 RESIGNATIONS and 1 medical.
FACT?
English is obviously not your first language son. You spoke of a tenuous grip. I replied by explaining that as a tenant, I own my thoughts. This may have been lost on you chap however we live and learn. Lets dispense with the literary garb and onto the facts please.
So its 2 RESIGNATIONS and 1 medical.
FACT?
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I must have a different portal to Mr Waldorfin. Just checked and it was 3 resignations in November, (1 Capt. and 2 FOs) and 7 in December, (4 Capt. and 3 FOs). I don't know why we are arguing about it as any pilot who has access to the portal can check for himself. I think we'll be seeing that number growing steadily. In the last month I've flown with several guys who are either awating a start date, and will resign on reciept of said start date, or who are in the final stages of recruitment at other airlines. Good luck to all in their futures, including Waldorfin.... long may he continue to amuse us.
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waldorfin
Although there are a few points I agree with you on, your one sided view and insults to other posters negates many here from siding with you.
What I do agree with is the constant negativity that's posted here along with sometimes exaggerated figures to spice up the problems. And yes, there are the same names constantly bleating about Life in Dubai and how appalling Ek is. These people, like you, do little to engender support from the neutrals amongst us because their views are usually so bias. Genuinely, I believe that the majority are happy with Life here but are frustrated by the small things which can be easily rectified.
Many who've been here a while have seen some degredation to their quality of life but that, unfortunately, is a problem that's been facing the Airline industry for a while now. What many here resent is the eroding of conditions when the Company makes record profit year after year. Yes, it gives us job security but there are signs that the job market is turning in favour of pilots so lets not be sold out. How would the Company go about cost cutting if we ever, God forbid, started losing money. I dread to think. So, what can we do?
Tell the truth. There's good and bad here as there is in EVERY Company. Guys on the Airbus have been working busy months and shortly, if not already, the Boeing guys will join them. The moral question of working on your day off is a thorny one but personally speaking, I don't. Not because I want to screw the Company but because a day off to me is worth considerably more than what we get......and that's if you actually do end up getting it. It also masks the fact that we are short and it delays recruitment and promotion. And besides, I feel we do enough already on our days off such as keeping up with ammendments, crew portal, visa aquisitions and guys giving up days for physc tests and interviews for upgrades. If the Company want you to get a visa, roster it. If they want us to become Captains, roster it. HR don't come in on a Friday so why should we! And issues such as allowances. We already get a reduction based on the discounts offered but do we all check if that always covers it? You will be surprised. Why give £5 breakfast allownce LHR when it costs £5.50 ? Why give us £7 at LGW when an English breakfast costs £11.37 ( after discount). These are not isolated examples.
There are many things Emirates do that are good , especially when it comes to personal issues or health, but until the day we have a designated Pilot rep who can liase with the Company over the little issues, the ones that really start to niggle and wind people up, then these forums will always be a breading ground for frustration and exaggeration.
And while this happens, we will to struggle to maintain and recruit the high calibre of Pilots needed to ensure we continue to operate safely and efficiently.
This is OUR Company so lets not destroy it.
Regards
BYMONEK
Although there are a few points I agree with you on, your one sided view and insults to other posters negates many here from siding with you.
What I do agree with is the constant negativity that's posted here along with sometimes exaggerated figures to spice up the problems. And yes, there are the same names constantly bleating about Life in Dubai and how appalling Ek is. These people, like you, do little to engender support from the neutrals amongst us because their views are usually so bias. Genuinely, I believe that the majority are happy with Life here but are frustrated by the small things which can be easily rectified.
Many who've been here a while have seen some degredation to their quality of life but that, unfortunately, is a problem that's been facing the Airline industry for a while now. What many here resent is the eroding of conditions when the Company makes record profit year after year. Yes, it gives us job security but there are signs that the job market is turning in favour of pilots so lets not be sold out. How would the Company go about cost cutting if we ever, God forbid, started losing money. I dread to think. So, what can we do?
Tell the truth. There's good and bad here as there is in EVERY Company. Guys on the Airbus have been working busy months and shortly, if not already, the Boeing guys will join them. The moral question of working on your day off is a thorny one but personally speaking, I don't. Not because I want to screw the Company but because a day off to me is worth considerably more than what we get......and that's if you actually do end up getting it. It also masks the fact that we are short and it delays recruitment and promotion. And besides, I feel we do enough already on our days off such as keeping up with ammendments, crew portal, visa aquisitions and guys giving up days for physc tests and interviews for upgrades. If the Company want you to get a visa, roster it. If they want us to become Captains, roster it. HR don't come in on a Friday so why should we! And issues such as allowances. We already get a reduction based on the discounts offered but do we all check if that always covers it? You will be surprised. Why give £5 breakfast allownce LHR when it costs £5.50 ? Why give us £7 at LGW when an English breakfast costs £11.37 ( after discount). These are not isolated examples.
There are many things Emirates do that are good , especially when it comes to personal issues or health, but until the day we have a designated Pilot rep who can liase with the Company over the little issues, the ones that really start to niggle and wind people up, then these forums will always be a breading ground for frustration and exaggeration.
And while this happens, we will to struggle to maintain and recruit the high calibre of Pilots needed to ensure we continue to operate safely and efficiently.
This is OUR Company so lets not destroy it.
Regards
BYMONEK
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There are many things Emirates do that are good , especially when it comes to personal issues or health,
Changing tack completely in mid post, the following message is addressed to HR: Gents, Waldo's definitely passed his use by date. I suggest you retire him and come up with a new psuedo pilot identity.
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Conspiracy Theory No. 1
Just had a thought. HR Manager is in meeting with Flight Ops management, they want to find out who these people are on PPRuNe that are debasing our fine company. "I know!" says Flight Ops manager, "If we can trick them onto signing into the portal at a specific time, then we'll trap them!" "How do we do that?" says HR manager. "Well, we create a false ID, get teh guys really wound up and get them to search up something on teh portal, like resignation numbers. If we feed false info to the general public, the guys will react but first they'll sign in to the portal to see what is the truth! They will next go onto PPRuNe and report what they have found out!"
In other words, SecurID sees something written by someone called Waldorfin that he knows to be wrong. But before he replies, he quickly checks the portal to see the correct facts. Result? At 1230hrs GMT, SecurID logs into PPRuNe, reads post. At 1232hrs GMT logs into the portal using real name, checks resignation numbers. At 1234hrs GMT he posts the fact that there are really 8 pilots on the resignation list! Mangement now know that SecurID is 'probably' staff no. s123456 who logged on to the portal two minutes before posting on PPRuNe!
Cue that X-files music..... de de dede de de dede
In other words, SecurID sees something written by someone called Waldorfin that he knows to be wrong. But before he replies, he quickly checks the portal to see the correct facts. Result? At 1230hrs GMT, SecurID logs into PPRuNe, reads post. At 1232hrs GMT logs into the portal using real name, checks resignation numbers. At 1234hrs GMT he posts the fact that there are really 8 pilots on the resignation list! Mangement now know that SecurID is 'probably' staff no. s123456 who logged on to the portal two minutes before posting on PPRuNe!
Cue that X-files music..... de de dede de de dede
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Secure
No need for that, your URL # carries the address of the last web address with to the next.
Old porn hunter trick.
They can't see what you did, but they can see where you been.
Always visit crew portal after "big boob" site, makes them laugh.
They can find you if they want.
Ask the guy that posted the JNB safety report.
Wish you knew this earlier??
No need for that, your URL # carries the address of the last web address with to the next.
Old porn hunter trick.
They can't see what you did, but they can see where you been.
Always visit crew portal after "big boob" site, makes them laugh.
They can find you if they want.
Ask the guy that posted the JNB safety report.
Wish you knew this earlier??
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My fair comments :
Those who stay .....Enjoy
Those who leave....Good luck
Those who think to join..You are most welcom
Those who intend to leave....Think twice
Overall.....EK will not shake because of small group that decide to change the weather
Those who stay .....Enjoy
Those who leave....Good luck
Those who think to join..You are most welcom
Those who intend to leave....Think twice
Overall.....EK will not shake because of small group that decide to change the weather
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EK will have to shake up if they don't get enough pilots joining and people still leave!!
PS when browsing the portal the other day saw a manually entered flight by crewing for a pair of lucky pilots DXB-MCT-DXB-BKK now please don't tell me that this was because we have enough pilots!!
PS when browsing the portal the other day saw a manually entered flight by crewing for a pair of lucky pilots DXB-MCT-DXB-BKK now please don't tell me that this was because we have enough pilots!!
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Well now, that IS interesting. Must have been a daytime departure to fit a 3 sector day into the FDP. Muscat is short for sure but BKK is hardly short haul. If this is the start of a plan to get more productivity from their pilots then that is EK's perogitive but don't expect me to get into an Audi A6 to end up at CBC 50 minutes before my 'report'.
Harry
Harry
Your a dumb little ***k Comet ,
EK is nothing more then a ******* chain gang , the UAE treats all expats as slaves and you can never become a local yourself and you will never fit in.
Its way dangerous on the roads as the rules dont apply to locals and if they do the penalty is not the same.
EK treat people like **** and i think a charter job in the UK would run rings around this place.
Not to mention the appaling standard now , if only the public new.............
Im not saying dont come here just dont make it a lifelong career , youll be way dissappointed.........
EK is nothing more then a ******* chain gang , the UAE treats all expats as slaves and you can never become a local yourself and you will never fit in.
Its way dangerous on the roads as the rules dont apply to locals and if they do the penalty is not the same.
EK treat people like **** and i think a charter job in the UK would run rings around this place.
Not to mention the appaling standard now , if only the public new.............
Im not saying dont come here just dont make it a lifelong career , youll be way dissappointed.........
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Scooter
Everyone on these forums is entitled to their views and there is no harm in healthy debate, but to launch into Comet for his harmless posting is bang out of order.
You show yourself to be no better than the people you so obviously despise here in Dubai by not allowing others their opinion.
If you want to gain respect you'd be wise to show some civility towards people and to make more effort with spelling/punctuation before calling others little dumb ***k's!
Everyone on these forums is entitled to their views and there is no harm in healthy debate, but to launch into Comet for his harmless posting is bang out of order.
You show yourself to be no better than the people you so obviously despise here in Dubai by not allowing others their opinion.
If you want to gain respect you'd be wise to show some civility towards people and to make more effort with spelling/punctuation before calling others little dumb ***k's!
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It's fun to see that the "civilized" users of this forum have been registered for quite some time now - whereas some of the new names tend to through insults around at ill will... 
Maybe age tend to mature some people 
Scooter - sorry to say - but you do remind me of the cheesy poster Mascarpone who raged around in this forum a lot - found another of your names again?
As for joining and hiring - there always seems to be a certain lack of people - on both sides of the door... I only hope that in the front it's not the same as in the back: the need gets bigger - the standard of new joiners goes down... Let's only hope that the rise of the Dollar again makes it more interesting for people to come, might solve some of the problems again...
Maybe age tend to mature some people Scooter - sorry to say - but you do remind me of the cheesy poster Mascarpone who raged around in this forum a lot - found another of your names again?
As for joining and hiring - there always seems to be a certain lack of people - on both sides of the door... I only hope that in the front it's not the same as in the back: the need gets bigger - the standard of new joiners goes down... Let's only hope that the rise of the Dollar again makes it more interesting for people to come, might solve some of the problems again...