EK Pilot Jailed
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EK Pilot Jailed
Looks like JD had his day in court and has been jailed for 4 months.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...494778,00.html
A lesson for us all.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...494778,00.html
A lesson for us all.
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A bit more info from here too:
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/...nken_Pilot.php
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LONDON: A pilot was sentenced to four months in jail on Friday for being drunk while on duty with Emirates airline.
Prosecutors said John Cronly-Dillon was nearly seven times over the legal limit for alcohol when he attempted to check in to command a flight to Dubai on Sept. 13.
Cronly-Dillon, who has been fired by the airline, pleaded guilty to an offense of exceeding the blood-alcohol limit.
Tests showed that Cronly-Dillon, 51, had 134 micrograms of alcohol in 100 milliliters of blood, the prosecution said.
"The limit for someone performing the function of captain is 20 micrograms ... so nearly seven times over the limit," said prosecutor Douglas Adams.
"The courts take a very dim view of passengers who get drunk on an aircraft, and it is much worse if it is the pilot, who has a high level of duty of care to those he would have been looking after," Judge Usha Karu said.
Defense lawyer Judith Khan said Cronly-Dillon, an Australian, was "extremely remorseful" and therefore would not have wished to continue working in the aviation industry.
The airline said it was the first incident of its kind in 21 years.
"Emirates took this incident extremely seriously and immediately began an internal inquiry following Mr. Cronly-Dillon's arrest. This led to his instant dismissal," the company said in a statement.
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/...nken_Pilot.php
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LONDON: A pilot was sentenced to four months in jail on Friday for being drunk while on duty with Emirates airline.
Prosecutors said John Cronly-Dillon was nearly seven times over the legal limit for alcohol when he attempted to check in to command a flight to Dubai on Sept. 13.
Cronly-Dillon, who has been fired by the airline, pleaded guilty to an offense of exceeding the blood-alcohol limit.
Tests showed that Cronly-Dillon, 51, had 134 micrograms of alcohol in 100 milliliters of blood, the prosecution said.
"The limit for someone performing the function of captain is 20 micrograms ... so nearly seven times over the limit," said prosecutor Douglas Adams.
"The courts take a very dim view of passengers who get drunk on an aircraft, and it is much worse if it is the pilot, who has a high level of duty of care to those he would have been looking after," Judge Usha Karu said.
Defense lawyer Judith Khan said Cronly-Dillon, an Australian, was "extremely remorseful" and therefore would not have wished to continue working in the aviation industry.
The airline said it was the first incident of its kind in 21 years.
"Emirates took this incident extremely seriously and immediately began an internal inquiry following Mr. Cronly-Dillon's arrest. This led to his instant dismissal," the company said in a statement.
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Absolutely NOTHING in the British Press about this story,either at the time of the incident or now. Considering when it happened to a BA pilot and a Virgin pilot it was big news this is odd, I wonder why?
I just had a quick look at the online editions of The Times, Daily Mail, Independent, London Eveing Standard all had similar headlines about the story, so it isn't invisible.
I do agree it was a bit odd it did'nt make a bigger splash when it happened.
I hope he gets through his time OK, with any luck he should only serve 6-8 weeks....there but for the grace of god go many of us I'm sure..
I do agree it was a bit odd it did'nt make a bigger splash when it happened.
I hope he gets through his time OK, with any luck he should only serve 6-8 weeks....there but for the grace of god go many of us I'm sure..
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EK Response "First Incident of It's Type"
"Emirates says it has a zero-tolerance approach to breaches of alcohol-related regulations and it's the first time the airline has had to deal with such an incident."
From: http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/...33352®ion=3
All depends on your definition of "this type of incident". There have been two previous pilot resignations over alcohol related events.
I hope the chap involved gets through his time OK.
Any news relkated to a recent reported drug bust at the EK Crew Immigration?
From: http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/...33352®ion=3
All depends on your definition of "this type of incident". There have been two previous pilot resignations over alcohol related events.
I hope the chap involved gets through his time OK.
Any news relkated to a recent reported drug bust at the EK Crew Immigration?
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Any news relkated to a recent reported drug bust at the EK Crew Immigration?[/quote]
If there was one again it isnt surprising.....they had a drug bust about two years back as well. Apparently cops went into some of the cabin crew accomodations to break up a prostitution ring and acting on a tip off they found weed in one of the cc's fridges.
The prostitution ring still is pretty rampant I guess considering the tinted cars that wait down 21 CT.
If there was one again it isnt surprising.....they had a drug bust about two years back as well. Apparently cops went into some of the cabin crew accomodations to break up a prostitution ring and acting on a tip off they found weed in one of the cc's fridges.
The prostitution ring still is pretty rampant I guess considering the tinted cars that wait down 21 CT.
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In many civilised country`s in the world it is forbidden to publish someones full name . It is to take care that someone is protected-whether he has done something wrong or not- from abuse.
Also , this person is now convicted, so no need to publicly hang him.
Aviation is a very nasty business these days, so it could easily happen to you.
Also , this person is now convicted, so no need to publicly hang him.
Aviation is a very nasty business these days, so it could easily happen to you.
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BYLAW.. what do you mean by civilized country? Cause his name is actually all over the news in UK and Australia.
Although I agree with you that his name shouldn't be published. But there's no point of hiding it here in pprune, if all online news has his name, plus his middle name was there.
I agree with you too, shouldn't be published at the first place.
In Dubai, probably half of the population already know his name, since it's in 7 days today. I was shocked when I read his name was there, I thought its just the Dubai thing.. ..
I flew with him couple of time, never like him. But trust me, he got my sympathy and also towards his family. It's a very ugly situation..
Although I agree with you that his name shouldn't be published. But there's no point of hiding it here in pprune, if all online news has his name, plus his middle name was there.
I agree with you too, shouldn't be published at the first place.
In Dubai, probably half of the population already know his name, since it's in 7 days today. I was shocked when I read his name was there, I thought its just the Dubai thing.. ..
I flew with him couple of time, never like him. But trust me, he got my sympathy and also towards his family. It's a very ugly situation..
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Why bothered if the name appears here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...494778,00.html. You would have to remove the whole thing...
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Bylaw - you're talking b0llocks...... In all the first world countries I've visited there are always full names (and usually ages) in the press when jail cases are being reported. The only exception being for minors!
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Reach, while no sane person supports the actions that landed this person in jail, unless you know the context of the person's situation, their stress-ors and influences, then I suggest you restrict you commentary to something a bit less critical.
From my experience with this individual, both in the cockpit and occasionally socially, he was a person of high standards of professionalism and integrity. Quite unusual around here. Somehow or other he made a very human mistake.
From my experience with this individual, both in the cockpit and occasionally socially, he was a person of high standards of professionalism and integrity. Quite unusual around here. Somehow or other he made a very human mistake.
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Anyone able to PM me a contact address for JD or even where he's incarcerated?
Always found him good value and extremely professional - can't imagine what caused this.
Always found him good value and extremely professional - can't imagine what caused this.
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Assuming this news report is right:
Ruserious, do you consider this "somehow or other a very human mistake"? For a pilot? A train or bus driver? A sealiner skipper? For you as a car driver if you are taking home your family or your friends after a night out or any other example involving few or many lives? I don't think so. I'm sorry but I cannot agree.
We all, in aviation, make mistakes, but... there are irrelevant ones and those of great importance or inpact. I don't need to detail them here. All he had to do was to report sick, period! Though wrong because he shouldn't have done it, and assuming he was going through some bad patch of his life, it would have been more professional to stay in the hotel room.
Good night! Working day ahead.
Prosecutors said John Cronly-Dillon was nearly seven times over the legal limit for alcohol when he attempted to check in to command a flight to Dubai on Sept. 13
We all, in aviation, make mistakes, but... there are irrelevant ones and those of great importance or inpact. I don't need to detail them here. All he had to do was to report sick, period! Though wrong because he shouldn't have done it, and assuming he was going through some bad patch of his life, it would have been more professional to stay in the hotel room.
Good night! Working day ahead.
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As I said
But that does not mean we should should hurl stones, sit in judgement or otherwise castigate someone who we don't know or understand.
I would not wish this on my worst enemy.
no sane person supports the actions that landed this person in jail
I would not wish this on my worst enemy.
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Come on guys, we all know that a lot of boozing-up is going on in aviation, but usually handled quite well and in a responsible manner. Sometimes I wonder if it is more these days than it was 30 or 40 years ago...although I still remember the days when the first thing we did after some layovers in TPNG was a grab for the oxy-bottle on board!
However, what strikes me most in this particular and certainly unforgivable case...why did his crew not stop him in the hotel lobby prior to pick-up? Surely, somebody must have noticed and any good F/O or senior cabin staff should have clearly told him to stay behind and call sick!
Now, where was that crew spirit???? Something to think about!
Cheers!
;-)
However, what strikes me most in this particular and certainly unforgivable case...why did his crew not stop him in the hotel lobby prior to pick-up? Surely, somebody must have noticed and any good F/O or senior cabin staff should have clearly told him to stay behind and call sick!
Now, where was that crew spirit???? Something to think about!
Cheers!
;-)