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Not from here 9th Dec 2006 04:40

EK Pilot Jailed
 
Looks like JD had his day in court and has been jailed for 4 months.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...494778,00.html
A lesson for us all.

Keith Discovering 9th Dec 2006 06:00

A bit more info from here too:

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/...nken_Pilot.php


and pasted below:

LONDON: A pilot was sentenced to four months in jail on Friday for being drunk while on duty with Emirates airline.

Prosecutors said John Cronly-Dillon was nearly seven times over the legal limit for alcohol when he attempted to check in to command a flight to Dubai on Sept. 13.

Cronly-Dillon, who has been fired by the airline, pleaded guilty to an offense of exceeding the blood-alcohol limit.

Tests showed that Cronly-Dillon, 51, had 134 micrograms of alcohol in 100 milliliters of blood, the prosecution said.

"The limit for someone performing the function of captain is 20 micrograms ... so nearly seven times over the limit," said prosecutor Douglas Adams.

"The courts take a very dim view of passengers who get drunk on an aircraft, and it is much worse if it is the pilot, who has a high level of duty of care to those he would have been looking after," Judge Usha Karu said.

Defense lawyer Judith Khan said Cronly-Dillon, an Australian, was "extremely remorseful" and therefore would not have wished to continue working in the aviation industry.

The airline said it was the first incident of its kind in 21 years.

"Emirates took this incident extremely seriously and immediately began an internal inquiry following Mr. Cronly-Dillon's arrest. This led to his instant dismissal," the company said in a statement.

BYLAW 9th Dec 2006 06:08

4 HP, please remove the name.

Sorry guys, as sad as this affair is, his name is in the public domain & there's no sense in deleting it. 4HP

ruserious 9th Dec 2006 06:22

Yes please remove, it may be published elsewhere, but that doesn't mean it needs to be here

145qrh 9th Dec 2006 06:23

:confused: Why should his name be removed??

It has been printed in many newspapers the world over, probably on TV too.

White Knight 9th Dec 2006 06:34

Got to say I agree with 145 - why should this kind of case remain anonymous:confused: :confused:

Mistah Kurtz 9th Dec 2006 07:25

Absolutely NOTHING in the British Press about this story,either at the time of the incident or now. Considering when it happened to a BA pilot and a Virgin pilot it was big news this is odd, I wonder why?:confused:

145qrh 9th Dec 2006 07:45

I just had a quick look at the online editions of The Times, Daily Mail, Independent, London Eveing Standard all had similar headlines about the story, so it isn't invisible.

I do agree it was a bit odd it did'nt make a bigger splash when it happened.

I hope he gets through his time OK, with any luck he should only serve 6-8 weeks....there but for the grace of god go many of us I'm sure..:oh:

Alan Squeely 9th Dec 2006 08:05

EK Response "First Incident of It's Type"
 
"Emirates says it has a zero-tolerance approach to breaches of alcohol-related regulations and it's the first time the airline has had to deal with such an incident."

From: http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/...33352&region=3

All depends on your definition of "this type of incident". There have been two previous pilot resignations over alcohol related events.

I hope the chap involved gets through his time OK.

Any news relkated to a recent reported drug bust at the EK Crew Immigration?

AI744 9th Dec 2006 09:47

Any news relkated to a recent reported drug bust at the EK Crew Immigration?[/quote]


If there was one again it isnt surprising.....they had a drug bust about two years back as well. Apparently cops went into some of the cabin crew accomodations to break up a prostitution ring and acting on a tip off they found weed in one of the cc's fridges.

The prostitution ring still is pretty rampant I guess considering the tinted cars that wait down 21 CT.

BYLAW 9th Dec 2006 10:10

In many civilised country`s in the world it is forbidden to publish someones full name . It is to take care that someone is protected-whether he has done something wrong or not- from abuse.
Also , this person is now convicted, so no need to publicly hang him.
Aviation is a very nasty business these days, so it could easily happen to you.

miss petal 9th Dec 2006 10:35

BYLAW.. what do you mean by civilized country? Cause his name is actually all over the news in UK and Australia.

Although I agree with you that his name shouldn't be published. But there's no point of hiding it here in pprune, if all online news has his name, plus his middle name was there.
I agree with you too, shouldn't be published at the first place.

In Dubai, probably half of the population already know his name, since it's in 7 days today. I was shocked when I read his name was there, I thought its just the Dubai thing.. ..

I flew with him couple of time, never like him. But trust me, he got my sympathy and also towards his family. It's a very ugly situation..

fractional 9th Dec 2006 11:22


Originally Posted by BYLAW (Post 3010060)
4 HP, please remove the name.

Why bothered if the name appears here: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...494778,00.html. You would have to remove the whole thing...

White Knight 9th Dec 2006 15:18

Bylaw - you're talking b0llocks...... In all the first world countries I've visited there are always full names (and usually ages) in the press when jail cases are being reported. The only exception being for minors!

REACH-69 9th Dec 2006 17:27

I hope this will be a lesson to all the irresponsible pilots out there. Just think of all the lives you are carrying onboard when you are toxicated :=

ruserious 9th Dec 2006 18:00

Reach, while no sane person supports the actions that landed this person in jail, unless you know the context of the person's situation, their stress-ors and influences, then I suggest you restrict you commentary to something a bit less critical.
From my experience with this individual, both in the cockpit and occasionally socially, he was a person of high standards of professionalism and integrity. Quite unusual around here. Somehow or other he made a very human mistake.

sanddancer 9th Dec 2006 18:20

Anyone able to PM me a contact address for JD or even where he's incarcerated?

Always found him good value and extremely professional - can't imagine what caused this.

fractional 9th Dec 2006 18:31

Assuming this news report is right:

Prosecutors said John Cronly-Dillon was nearly seven times over the legal limit for alcohol when he attempted to check in to command a flight to Dubai on Sept. 13
Ruserious, do you consider this "somehow or other a very human mistake"? For a pilot? A train or bus driver? A sealiner skipper? For you as a car driver if you are taking home your family or your friends after a night out or any other example involving few or many lives? I don't think so. I'm sorry but I cannot agree.
We all, in aviation, make mistakes, but... there are irrelevant ones and those of great importance or inpact. I don't need to detail them here. All he had to do was to report sick, period! Though wrong because he shouldn't have done it, and assuming he was going through some bad patch of his life, it would have been more professional to stay in the hotel room.
Good night! Working day ahead.

ruserious 9th Dec 2006 19:29

As I said

no sane person supports the actions that landed this person in jail
But that does not mean we should should hurl stones, sit in judgement or otherwise castigate someone who we don't know or understand.
I would not wish this on my worst enemy.

jollyikarus 9th Dec 2006 22:13

Come on guys, we all know that a lot of boozing-up is going on in aviation, but usually handled quite well and in a responsible manner. Sometimes I wonder if it is more these days than it was 30 or 40 years ago...although I still remember the days when the first thing we did after some layovers in TPNG was a grab for the oxy-bottle on board!

However, what strikes me most in this particular and certainly unforgivable case...why did his crew not stop him in the hotel lobby prior to pick-up? Surely, somebody must have noticed and any good F/O or senior cabin staff should have clearly told him to stay behind and call sick!
Now, where was that crew spirit???? Something to think about!

Cheers!

;-)


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