The "Widget" Comes to Dubai
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Look at the advantages.
All those potential DECs will already be in Doobaye and can do the assessment for thier VP line ops position,or trainer in waiting whilst on a layover. Its a win win situation. Roadshow costs saved, ploughed back into the pilot welfare, more decs and so an inrease in establishment , so less flying, more going camping in the desert and sitting in an expat club you can now afford due to your better work to pay ratio.
Proves all those cynics about EK management wrong huh.
All those potential DECs will already be in Doobaye and can do the assessment for thier VP line ops position,or trainer in waiting whilst on a layover. Its a win win situation. Roadshow costs saved, ploughed back into the pilot welfare, more decs and so an inrease in establishment , so less flying, more going camping in the desert and sitting in an expat club you can now afford due to your better work to pay ratio.
Proves all those cynics about EK management wrong huh.
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No it's Mutt..... but I whole heartedly agree their RT is a disgrace, OK in the land of exess, but multi lingual environment here dictates a degree of standardisation.
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ahhhhhhh.... roger, okayyyy, unnerstand the delta is checkin' in with doo-bah, level three five OH, lookin' fer lower, seven seven zero zero comin' down.... yerrrrr.....so cool... runway thirty....yerrrrr
I can't wait. They'll soon have the rest of the halfwits from Air India and other easily-influenced RTers mimicking their non-standard, backwoods, North Virginia drivel on the radio. That's the ones who aren't already doing it, that is.
Speaking of which, I see the FOM is being whipped into some sort of respectability lately. One of the notices exhorts us all to use standard RT phraseology. A bit hard with all the seppos on the air....!!
Jokes, guys, just jokes is all..... really.
...gonna back this lil ol' puppy up with reverse thrust, yerrrrr....
I can't wait. They'll soon have the rest of the halfwits from Air India and other easily-influenced RTers mimicking their non-standard, backwoods, North Virginia drivel on the radio. That's the ones who aren't already doing it, that is.
Speaking of which, I see the FOM is being whipped into some sort of respectability lately. One of the notices exhorts us all to use standard RT phraseology. A bit hard with all the seppos on the air....!!
Jokes, guys, just jokes is all..... really.
...gonna back this lil ol' puppy up with reverse thrust, yerrrrr....
Im just glad DAL is coming to DXB, might actually give me a chance to get home direct once and a while.
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Reeality is, the group that would have been interested in a DEC position has dried up. Why leave DL at this point to come here? But lots of interest in the F/O ranks at DL. Three years plus to upgrade here, try about 15 to 20 now at DL.
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yours or mine paycheck here capt or fo regardless wouldnt make a pimple on the hiney of a DL's pilot paycheck when you consider the careerlong earning potential they have....there may be the few here or there, but dont think you will have a flood of applications
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26 YEARS TO RETIREMENT (60)
CONSERVATIVE CAPTAIN UPGRADE (EK: 5 YRS / CAL: 1-10 WB-FO / 10-15 LNB CA / 15 WB CA)
RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS AVG. 10%/YR
EK:
$3,148,512 SALARY
$2,493,956 DEFINED BENEFIT & 7% 401(k)
TOTAL: $5,642,468
CAL:
$2,231,582 SALARY (AFTER 33% TAX)
$2,670,231 A & B PLAN & 7% 401(k)
TOTAL: $4,901,813
Where the big factor lies is EK pays housing and other costs, and CAL does not, so EK still comes out ahead if you stay in Dubai.
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It's a little bit about lifestyle as well...trust me if it was so attractive to yanks that have major airline jobs, there would be more over here knocking on the door...there just aren't are there? see ya!!
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ironbutt57 has got an excellent point.
Living in a trailerpark 53-miles out of Hartsfield in the Georgia countryside does have it's attractions as far as lifestyle and cost of living compared to Dubai is concerned. Besides, Dubai doesn't allow a honest hard-working law-abiding citizen to bring the 9mm Beretta, the Mossberg 590, the SKS, and the sweetheart Ruger Super Redhawk .44 (and the coondog would have to get a sh!tload of shots from the vet) so is it really worth it or is it sacrificing all these freedoms and all that really matters in life?
Delta Airlines faced an exodus of pilots before their pension plan was raped and pillaged. Many of those who were eligible, did the calculations and realized that they could take the money now, and get a job elsewhere-- remaining at Delta would have essentially been working for free for their last few years (assuming Delta were not to succumb to bankruptcy). Know of three DL pilots who came to the Middle East-- all of them excellent guys. One retired early, the other two were furloughed. The two furloughed guys are anxious to be recalled to DL. Unless there were to be some sort of major business disaster at Delta, I think for the most part, the outward flow has stopped.
Living in a trailerpark 53-miles out of Hartsfield in the Georgia countryside does have it's attractions as far as lifestyle and cost of living compared to Dubai is concerned. Besides, Dubai doesn't allow a honest hard-working law-abiding citizen to bring the 9mm Beretta, the Mossberg 590, the SKS, and the sweetheart Ruger Super Redhawk .44 (and the coondog would have to get a sh!tload of shots from the vet) so is it really worth it or is it sacrificing all these freedoms and all that really matters in life?
Delta Airlines faced an exodus of pilots before their pension plan was raped and pillaged. Many of those who were eligible, did the calculations and realized that they could take the money now, and get a job elsewhere-- remaining at Delta would have essentially been working for free for their last few years (assuming Delta were not to succumb to bankruptcy). Know of three DL pilots who came to the Middle East-- all of them excellent guys. One retired early, the other two were furloughed. The two furloughed guys are anxious to be recalled to DL. Unless there were to be some sort of major business disaster at Delta, I think for the most part, the outward flow has stopped.
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''the two furloughed gyus are anxious to be recalled to DL''
I thought you had to resign before joining EK......When I got my offer from EK I turned it down because of precisely that rule.
I thought you had to resign before joining EK......When I got my offer from EK I turned it down because of precisely that rule.
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I said three DL pilots who came to the Middle East (no mention of Emirates). Emirates and the Middle East are not necessarily synonymous.
