SR technics and Gulf air
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From: You Name It.
GAMCO is one of the oldest MRO Operations in the region with a proven track record of 20 years
Thats before we talk about how they allowed a QR aircraft to go on fire in one of their hangars, suppose that was spontanious combustion!
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From: Havana
Hola WaCkY MaC
"although GAMCO has its seriously bad points i would not call them totally incompetent"
Intersting view...so tell us why a 767 that went to Dublin for a C check was discovered to have for example, inpection hatches that were 'corroded closed' and numerous other issues that I don't care to mention here but are fairly common knowlege. Incompetent or not, this is viewed as serious negligence in most parts of the world. Llike it or not, all of these problems are caused by years and years of neglect, negligence and yes, incompetence in some areas, particularly in the oversight domain.
The chicken has finally home to roost and at what price.
Hasta luego
"although GAMCO has its seriously bad points i would not call them totally incompetent"
Intersting view...so tell us why a 767 that went to Dublin for a C check was discovered to have for example, inpection hatches that were 'corroded closed' and numerous other issues that I don't care to mention here but are fairly common knowlege. Incompetent or not, this is viewed as serious negligence in most parts of the world. Llike it or not, all of these problems are caused by years and years of neglect, negligence and yes, incompetence in some areas, particularly in the oversight domain.
The chicken has finally home to roost and at what price.
Hasta luego
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From: Bahrain
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I know where you guys are coming from but...like i said before fingers have to be pointed at SRT as well you dont open an MRO and outsource 90% of the work elsewhere the the 767 issues pertaining to GF are unfortunate but you cannot only blame GAMCO as a lot of the damage happened under SRTs watch as well (technically the jury is still out on this one, but i would ask SRT tech to remember to clean the toilets and use anti corrosives
this is from our own investigations while at GF). But i can assure you ADD's while maintenence was at GAMCO were alot less than what they are now with SRT; being a new MRO its always easy to point the finger at the previous agency. Then i again i am speaking strictly from a GF point of view as i do not know about other problems airlines have had with them. I am a 20 yr vet in the Mid East and the only airline from what i know who has had issues with GAMCO is SRT and this is only after they moved to SRT what a coincedence 
Also...Lets wait for the IR on the QA fire.....before we jump to conclusions
this is from our own investigations while at GF). But i can assure you ADD's while maintenence was at GAMCO were alot less than what they are now with SRT; being a new MRO its always easy to point the finger at the previous agency. Then i again i am speaking strictly from a GF point of view as i do not know about other problems airlines have had with them. I am a 20 yr vet in the Mid East and the only airline from what i know who has had issues with GAMCO is SRT and this is only after they moved to SRT what a coincedence Also...Lets wait for the IR on the QA fire.....before we jump to conclusions
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From: UK
Morning All
As per a previous post this is an almost dead thread that I stumbled across but for what it's worth will throw my hat into the ring. I do not intend to malign any particular company as I believe this industry is too small for stone throwing.
I've had the dubious pleasure of working with GAMCO and SRT BAH and alongside GF engineers. Without doubt all three companies has good engineers working within them that I respect highly. Likewise all three companies lets it's staff down. Particularly true of SRT when I was with them.
Whilst SRT has it's faults, from my time with them, I cannot see how they can be blamed for the condition of the GF fleet. For sure logistics, lack of ground equipment etc were big problems but they inherited a fleet in real need of some TLC.
It would have been easy to ground many of the fleet as they rolled in the hangar - particularly the 767s. The challenge was to keep them going without jumping into grey areas. Unfortunately this was the legacy of GAMCO and it cannot be disputed. One of the reasons ADDs climbed.
The question is why was the fleet like this when the individual engineers in AUH know their stuff? That's for another forum except as previous folks have pointed out there are huge cultural pressures in the region, lack of oversight by strong tech reps, fear for one's job, easier to turn a blind eye, possibly incorrect maint schedules, bad LAEs and techs mixed in with the good and some very ingrained bad practices at GAMCO, etc etc.
What was SRT's biggest mistake? Probably not carrying out good a/c surveys prior to signing on the dotted line. Followed by thinking they could run BAH as if in ZRH - getting rid of 75% of the European techs in one go and bringing in guys from the Far East at the same time didn't help either.
No I'm not having a pop at cheap labour but a handover period would have been good. Did somone say Human Factors??
The guys and gals in SRT BAH have shed loads of experience in many parts of the world - the shame is SRT didn't allow them to use it.
Nuff said
As per a previous post this is an almost dead thread that I stumbled across but for what it's worth will throw my hat into the ring. I do not intend to malign any particular company as I believe this industry is too small for stone throwing.
I've had the dubious pleasure of working with GAMCO and SRT BAH and alongside GF engineers. Without doubt all three companies has good engineers working within them that I respect highly. Likewise all three companies lets it's staff down. Particularly true of SRT when I was with them.
Whilst SRT has it's faults, from my time with them, I cannot see how they can be blamed for the condition of the GF fleet. For sure logistics, lack of ground equipment etc were big problems but they inherited a fleet in real need of some TLC.
It would have been easy to ground many of the fleet as they rolled in the hangar - particularly the 767s. The challenge was to keep them going without jumping into grey areas. Unfortunately this was the legacy of GAMCO and it cannot be disputed. One of the reasons ADDs climbed.
The question is why was the fleet like this when the individual engineers in AUH know their stuff? That's for another forum except as previous folks have pointed out there are huge cultural pressures in the region, lack of oversight by strong tech reps, fear for one's job, easier to turn a blind eye, possibly incorrect maint schedules, bad LAEs and techs mixed in with the good and some very ingrained bad practices at GAMCO, etc etc.
What was SRT's biggest mistake? Probably not carrying out good a/c surveys prior to signing on the dotted line. Followed by thinking they could run BAH as if in ZRH - getting rid of 75% of the European techs in one go and bringing in guys from the Far East at the same time didn't help either.
No I'm not having a pop at cheap labour but a handover period would have been good. Did somone say Human Factors??
The guys and gals in SRT BAH have shed loads of experience in many parts of the world - the shame is SRT didn't allow them to use it.
Nuff said
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From: india
Request for suggestion.
Hi.
Nice to come across ur profile. Actually am wondering if u cn suggest me somethings. I've been shortlisted for a contract in SRT bahrain as ame. The contract is for 6 months extendable to 2yrs. so what after 2yrs. Is it hard and fast 2yrs or it extends. How long u've been working and is ur contract similar to what they've offered me. Plz suggest me what r pros and cons working there. ur feedback will be very helpful for me. kindly reply me at [email protected]
Regards,
Vip_avionics.
Nice to come across ur profile. Actually am wondering if u cn suggest me somethings. I've been shortlisted for a contract in SRT bahrain as ame. The contract is for 6 months extendable to 2yrs. so what after 2yrs. Is it hard and fast 2yrs or it extends. How long u've been working and is ur contract similar to what they've offered me. Plz suggest me what r pros and cons working there. ur feedback will be very helpful for me. kindly reply me at [email protected]
Regards,
Vip_avionics.
